@Firefly Heavy industry for sure.

@Deleted User Oy Vey!

True

@Deleted User I don't give a shit about small business as long as they're cooperativised

@Firefly Basically what @Deleted User said

Bashing the fash is reactionary

You should be bashing the bourgeois instead of other workers

anyone play rs2 or goldeneye source?

good game

I'd get it for you if I wasn't a broke neet

I uninstalled the other game after I got RS2

Dangerlurking brings up valid criticisms

Anarchists of all kinds (ancap or ancomm) will go up against the wall with the other counter-revolutionary reactionaries

^

I would be apart of an American socialist party if they weren't such progressive pussies

hello

idk

I'm a nazbol and they accept me so they don't seem to keen on censorship

Other than what @Firefly said

Some Nazis are alright as long as they actually read fucking books

Fuck anyone who doesn't read theory of any kind

Syndicalism

Or market socialism

You can also have a bit of a combination of the two

Do you believe in workers councils?

i.e. radical trade unionism?

yes, syndicates are trade unions, that form workers councils

You're a market socialist then

although that's not incompatible with syndicalism by any means

I used to be a strasserite before I became a nazbol and they're heavily into syndicalism and market socialism

along with national confederalism

The brownshirts before they got purged by Hitler for being too socialist

Lead by a man named Otto Strasser who tried to kill Hitler on multiple occasions

Wikipedia article on it is garbage

don't believe the propaganda

I can explain it to you if you want

Since I've actually read Strasserite theory

They believe in removing private land through what they call "usufruct". The state would own all land. The german Stock market would also be eliminated.

give me a second and I'll go into further detail after I take a piss

I'm pretty plastered but I understand Strasserite theory pretty well

back

anyway

Otto Strasser was a member of the Nazi party back in the 20's and early 30's

along with his brother Gregor

They had a heavy influence on the brownshirts at the time

@Various Communist Penguins#6583 depends on how you interpret it

They took the socialist aspect of national socialism very seriously

They saw Hitler as betraying the socialism inherent in the ideas of national socialism since the 25 points of national socialism called for the communalizalition of land the nationalization of heavy industry

What do you mean?

Well before the rise of the Nazis there were multiple parties, yes

But the Straserites were faction within the nazi party that were hard core socialists

That eventually got killed off by the traitor hitler

Anyway, in 1934, Hitler ended up killing off the Strasserites and limting the power of the brownshirts during what was called the "night of the long knives"

Because he was backed by industrialists who didn't like the fact that he had so many socialists in his party

During this purge Otto Strassers brother "Gregor Strasser" was killed

Otto Strasser had left the Nazi party prior to that because he knew what was going to happen

not sure about that

but I have a good understanding of the early history of the nazi party

and Hitlers betrayal to socialism

anyway

Otto and Hitler never really got along

After Hitler killed his brother Gregor, he started his own national resistance group called the "black front"

Here is their flag.

As I stated previously, he wanted the elimination of private property, the end to the war in Europe, a European confederation and workers councils under an elected lifetime president which would essentially be a strongman

He wanted elected managers within industry. The managers would own 1/3rd of profits, the state 1/3rd and the workers 1/3rd

It's a nice flag

Very aesthetic

I wonder if @I have Moved is still here tbh?

otherwise I'd be going over this for nothing

Alright comrade, I shall tell you more of this misunderstood socialist hero

Anyway, he is widely misunderstood because he was a member of the nazi party originally

the wikipedia article about him literally says he just "hated jews"

when infact that's not true

He worked with many Jews to try to kill Hitler

In 1940 the "Jewish Question" was a big thing in Germany

He advocated 3 solutions

1. to make them a "national minority" with their own representation in Germany

Couldn't remember it all

anyway here's a good quote

>Unlike with Hitler's regime, Otto Strasser supported the right for German Jews to do one of the
following: 1) They may stay within the greater nation of Germans but be marked as foreigners
and thus only enjoy the rights of such. 2) They may be deemed national minorities and given
their own autonomous states within a federal Germany where they will be able to exercise a
degree of autonomy over their own people. 3.) They may repudiate both their Jewish religion and
identity and assimilate into the German nation. Otto Strasser made it clear it should be up to each
individual Jew what he or she wishes to do.

Yeah I'm drunk

anyway he recognized that people are different but he wasn't a discriminatory man

quite a few, debate fascism sub on plebbit, /pol/, iron march, probably more

Anyway, Strasser tried on multiple occasions to kill Hitler, He had to flee to Czechoslovakia in the 30s

Where he did a radio broadcast against Hitler

and convinced many brownshirts to join his new "black front" which was a national socialist resistance group against the fake national """"""""socialist""""""" hitler

You said "third position" but you're right, /pol/tards aren't even 3rd position

He eventually fled to canada

Not sure what else I can say about Strasser except that he was a national syndicalist, a confederalist, a market socialist, a nationalist, and a heroic revolutionary against Hitlers fake "national socialism". I'd also recommend you check out this video, skip to 6:15 for the reference to the national revolutionary Otto Strasser https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cjsizk7fucw&t=1169s

I need to make a webm of this to show the BO of /leftypol/ that Strasserists shouldn't be banned tbh

I'm drunk but his national struggle against capitalism brings a tear to my eye

doesn't make him a bad man tho : (

he did a lot to fight for liberation

@Firefly I've read Marx and I take a lot of influences from Marx but I don't agree with his internationalism

@Deleted User He very well could have put it into practice had he been able to keep hitler out of power. With that said, Gaddafi's and Tito's systems were VERY simlar to Strasserism

They were pretty much Strasserism with Libyan and Yugo characteristics

@Deleted User Well like I said, Tito kind of emulated it even if it wasn't called "Strasserism" and Gaddafi's system is practically a carbon copy of Strasserism

I agree with his ideas of class war, and his criticisms of capital, I also agree with the labor theory of value @Firefly

@Deleted User Bullshit, he got killed by the west because he was willing to stand up to them

@Firefly I've read the manifesto but not Kapital