Message from @Revolutionary Nationalist

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2017-07-18 20:21:46 UTC  

So we had to get an outsider to become admin

2017-07-18 20:21:51 UTC  

This server's a clusterfuck

2017-07-18 20:22:02 UTC  

it's a clusterfuck but it works

2017-07-18 20:22:05 UTC  

Exactly

2017-07-18 20:22:11 UTC  

brb

2017-07-18 20:22:51 UTC  

I'm not going to name any names but basically a Jew tried to take over the server. The server was connected to the plebbit "debate fascism" (still is). So we had to get the mods from that plebbit to become the admins and put all of the original mods of the discord on equal footing to stop the infighting on the mod team

2017-07-18 20:23:58 UTC  

I'm actually on good terms with the Jewish guy now but we used to be on really shit terms

2017-07-18 20:24:28 UTC  

Especially since I had named a ba'athist as my successor and I felt like he went behind my back

2017-07-18 20:24:47 UTC  

@Revolutionary Nationalist so are you in favor of corporate power or state socialist power?

2017-07-18 20:25:01 UTC  

Define corporate

2017-07-18 20:25:10 UTC  

Corporate in the liberal sense, no

2017-07-18 20:25:19 UTC  

Any business interests

2017-07-18 20:25:22 UTC  

No

2017-07-18 20:25:50 UTC  

I was a corporatist as a Strasserist but we have a different definition of "corporation" than most people do. It refers to guild socialism.

2017-07-18 20:26:01 UTC  

Are you for business to be under the correct authority of the socialist state?

2017-07-18 20:26:18 UTC  

I'd probably be in favor of heavily regulated cooperatives with profit sharing

2017-07-18 20:26:26 UTC  

Along with some state heavy industry

2017-07-18 20:26:55 UTC  

All business shall serve the socialist state.

2017-07-18 20:27:06 UTC  

Is this statement correct?

2017-07-18 20:27:07 UTC  

Essentially and they'd be worker owned

2017-07-18 20:27:19 UTC  

They wouldn't be businesses in the capitalist sense

2017-07-18 20:27:41 UTC  

The only "owners" of the state industry would be the head ministers, other than that you'd still have profit sharing

2017-07-18 20:27:54 UTC  

along with smaller "businesses" being less heavily regulated cooperatives

2017-07-18 20:28:16 UTC  

>when the communist believes in market socialism and tries to convert a market socialist to market socialism also without realizing he hates market socialists

2017-07-18 20:28:21 UTC  

I think economy should be heavily centralized, planned and governed by the socialist state.

2017-07-18 20:28:24 UTC  

I don't know who's Jewing who!

2017-07-18 20:28:43 UTC  

@Firefly Heavy industry for sure.

2017-07-18 20:28:58 UTC  
2017-07-18 20:29:21 UTC  

@Revolutionary Nationalist In the beginning, for many decades it applies mostly to heavy industry.

2017-07-18 20:29:34 UTC  

True

2017-07-18 20:29:37 UTC  

Why not all industry?

2017-07-18 20:29:39 UTC  

what was the Jew's name?

2017-07-18 20:29:42 UTC  

Erwin?

2017-07-18 20:29:44 UTC  

You might as well go the full mile

2017-07-18 20:29:56 UTC  

@Deleted User Impossible to coordinate properly right away.

2017-07-18 20:29:56 UTC  

@Deleted User I don't give a shit about small business as long as they're cooperativised

2017-07-18 20:30:59 UTC  

@Firefly Honestly that could be said for anything related to economic bureaucracy

2017-07-18 20:31:34 UTC  

With institutions in place, with computing and networking and after long period of preparation it is possible, but not right away.

2017-07-18 20:35:50 UTC  

It is an off-handed remark

2017-07-18 20:43:14 UTC  

@Revolutionary Nationalist how cooperatives are better than central planning?

2017-07-18 20:56:00 UTC  

Because if it's done right they ARE the central planning