right wing nationalism and right wing parties across Europe are rising in popularity there is no debate about it

Right, Greece has Syriza, a left wing party in govt

13% in EU elections is nothing. In recent years aka since 2016 far left parties have fallen in polls and local state elections

not for much longer

a coalition is highly likely between The New Democracy Party and Golden Dawn

Spain has the socialist workers party in govt

Syriza is also becoming hated throughout the country

Anderlusia saw vox storm into parliament with over 11% of the vote and this was their first election

Right but the liberals are polled to win next election and are the major opposition

my entire point is right wing partries are rising all over europe

who cares about polling😂

lmfao

the media polled clitnon at over 70% to win over trump and she lost

polls dont mean anything

Media projected a 70% chance to win, that means she had a 30% chance to lose

also polling is very biased as it askes one group of voters to give their opinion and not others

Unlikely events happen

they where already saying she would win and started calling her madam president before the election even happened

Polling also attempts to take in a representative swathe of the country

the media was all sure she would win and she lost

polling numbers dont mean jack shit until the election actually happens simply basing your support or opinions of polls is ridiculous

polling is not accurate and hardly ever mimics what actually happens in the elections where ever they may be

people are already saying trump will lose because polls predict it

And great, but at this point your stating that you have no evidence and election results don’t back your claims as left leaning parties dominate the European periphery with few exceptions and liberal /conservatives dominate the core.

this idea polling is fact is easily disproved and basing your opinions on the polls is childish. Not saying you specifically but no one should base anything off on polling data that most likely has a bias

i have given you multiple examples of evidence you refuse to except them

i have discussed multiple events you know what i said dont act like you missed it

election results do back me and they are not claims its simply stating the fact

I didn’t say polling is fact, i said it’s representative and broadly predictive, which it is. I’ve showed that election results don’t demonstrate your assertions which you’ve rejected

And which election results, Spain where the socialists hold government?

Some loss for the left

right wing parties are rising across europe your argument against it was two countries that have left wing governments. You had no counter argument for any other nation that i mentioned prior to that

again your using one countrys government as your defense

i never said they where holding all countries so your using two nations as what?there is no point to use them since it doesnt make a counter to anything i said

Except I did as I said earlier far right and far left parties have been growing in lock step and even forming coalitions, as is the Italian case

far left parties have been declining and centrists parties are also taking the hit as well

Italy is a prime example of the nationalist sweep across Europe and the EU as a whole

Maybe you two should look up and show election results and demonstrate which is correct

i have given him multiple events in which right wing parties have burs-ted on to the political map

I have. As I’ve stated, Italy and Greece subvert this narrative and French and German polling don’t show the far right exerting enough pressure to form govt