i stated left and center parties are in the decline as a generalization across the block not in every single country. This argument stems from the increase in right wing party support and over preforming in elections

So is m5 a right wing party yes or no

i have multiple times stated numbers and made solid arguments backed up with evidence

five star you mean?

i am simply discussing a serious topic and your resulting to childish attacks

i have no issue with debating you but cutting the sarcasm and attacks would help greatly

Yes. Five star is left leaning. Certainly more left leaning then centre right party that preceded it

How do you get from this an increase in right wing support?

five star is anti establishment which is why they resonated so well with the people because the people in Italy are sick of the established elites in Brussels

I agree! Would you say they’re *radical* even?

i will state as many times as i need to do so. My original argument was right wing parties are on the rise across the EU i never did say however they where dominating everywhere and had an absolute grip on power you assumed that was my argument and still are doing so now.

So while they’re election wouldn’t support the narrative “tHe LeFt is IN DeCline” it *would* support that European politics is becoming more radicalised?

I also stated centrist parties across the EU where in decline but never did i say or claim they had no holdings or support you also made the assumption that was my argument

I’ve agreed that centrist parties are being challenged by radicals on the far left and right. You persist with making this about a right thing which isn’t backed up by anything but you screeching about it

Get some data

Defending ones traditions,customs and borders is a normal human reaction. Patriosts who love their country will stand up when they face a crisis interna or external and we are seeing this wave of natonlism backlash against the EU because these people and their leaders understand the importance of defending ones nation

Awesome. You have no data, your speaking out your ass

i have stated multiple events and party's and have done so civilly and respectfully i have not resulted to insults or petty attacks and have remained focused on the topic we where discussing

what you have shown me is you cant debate civilly

Great. I’m not going to be civil if you can’t get data.

you even stated yourself "i know that which is why im telling you"

i have given numbers which you even said you knew and had seen them yourself

Hmmmm

Apparently not

i have stated elections that have happened in recent years and sighted parties that are on the rise and at every turn you have assumed my position and points and also backed up my statements but when called out reverted back to petty attacks and insults

You’ve made statements with no supporting data.

I’ve provided data

you originally started arguing with me because i mentioned stats and rising popularity from the result of elections

You’ve rejected it

and all the data did was back me up

>using wikipedia as a reliable source

^^^

agreed

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It’s better than no source at all

you used the most unreliable source

also the fact your looking back in the text proves you dont know how to defend

You keep on switching your narrative mate, does it support you? Or is it unreliable?

so your hoping to find something to support your already collapsed narrative

No, I’m hoping you’ll get some data