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2018-05-26 21:49:21 UTC

that's fucking hilarious

2018-05-26 21:51:49 UTC

Rekt

2018-05-27 00:55:10 UTC

if democrats don't think "confidential informants" are spies then does that mean Trump is allowed do all of the same things in 2020 during re-election?

2018-05-27 01:54:33 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/450114557051011083/eB9pVjhoyAgiAM3KdtLMXdYvfvvZUA0SXE1VUuzCs0c.png

2018-05-27 01:58:19 UTC

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/450115504384770049/2018-05-26_18_56_05-Hundreds_of_far-right_protesters_descend_on_Whitehall_after_Tommy_Robinson_arres.png

2018-05-27 02:03:57 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/450116924727099402/2018-05-26_19_03_17-Hundreds_of_far-right_protesters_descend_on_Whitehall_after_Tommy_Robinson_arres.png

2018-05-27 02:59:17 UTC

So seems like this whole situation with Tommy is really escalating.

2018-05-27 02:59:56 UTC

Yeah

2018-05-27 02:59:58 UTC

And that's good

2018-05-27 03:00:06 UTC

I said before, it's a win win situation for him

2018-05-27 03:00:26 UTC

Unless he's killed by a Muslim gang of course.

2018-05-27 03:01:09 UTC

He becomes a martyr

2018-05-27 03:01:13 UTC

Yeah, he will he dead

2018-05-27 03:01:17 UTC

Cause even though being killed in prison would make him a martyr, I still think he could do far more good alive than as a symbol of martyrdom.

2018-05-27 03:01:28 UTC

But whomever comes next, will have a huge point

2018-05-27 03:01:34 UTC

yeah, that is true.

2018-05-27 03:02:08 UTC

I mean, he is kinda of a martyr already

2018-05-27 03:02:37 UTC

Yeah, but death is like the ultimate Martyrdom, it's gonna get fucking ballistic if he is killed.

2018-05-27 03:02:52 UTC

Like, I'm talking protesters storming buildings ballistic.

2018-05-27 03:03:44 UTC
2018-05-27 03:03:52 UTC

Dude, changed are coming

2018-05-27 03:03:59 UTC

Changes*

2018-05-27 03:04:33 UTC

I don't see the UK government being able to go farther without riots.

2018-05-27 03:04:59 UTC

In one hand you have the British government going retarded and super authoritarian, on the other hand you have a population getting angrier and angrier

2018-05-27 03:07:10 UTC

riots in UK when?

2018-05-27 03:07:52 UTC

If those rapists don't get maximum jail time, people will go crazy

2018-05-27 03:08:11 UTC

I mean, if they had death penalty, they all would get it

2018-05-27 04:34:57 UTC

On the "informant vs spy" question... Everything Obama does, and gets away with, is fair game for Trump in 2020.

2018-05-27 11:11:05 UTC

Funny. I just found a tweet with the hashtag #MARINESagainstTrump. So far as I'm aware, that sort of activity is a violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, specifically Section 88.

2018-05-27 14:48:45 UTC

Yup

2018-05-27 14:48:54 UTC

two vets shredded Onision for the same thing

2018-05-27 20:30:20 UTC

Too bad they deserved it

2018-05-27 20:54:43 UTC

How can you be Palestinian if that is not a real country

2018-05-27 20:54:53 UTC

There is only Israel

2018-05-28 12:13:22 UTC

So, when SJWs now are accusing Elon of creating GamerGate for rich people, are they admitting it was indeed about ethics in gaming journalism?

2018-05-28 15:03:44 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/450675551116591104/yowza2.png

2018-05-28 21:54:58 UTC

anybody got that clip of the guy on national television saying they want to kill all the jews in Israel?

2018-05-28 22:02:11 UTC

..

2018-05-28 22:02:17 UTC

..*which* ***one***?

2018-05-28 22:03:30 UTC

the recent one

2018-05-28 22:03:55 UTC

after the embassy move

2018-05-28 22:07:18 UTC

So I'm guessing we're ruling the entire mid-east out of this question

2018-05-28 22:07:24 UTC

Because there's probably been about 500 since then

2018-05-28 22:09:36 UTC

fuckin whatever any one will do then lol

2018-05-28 22:11:13 UTC

i heard people talk about that clip, but no one ever showed it

2018-05-29 00:17:04 UTC

not sure where to post this so I'm puttin it here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBSOTY1rTtg

2018-05-29 00:24:28 UTC

Gonna watch that later, but I'm guessing it's what JBP already said: the pop atheists haven't done their homework, they haven't read anything, so they come out shallow when facing counter arguments.

2018-05-29 00:25:19 UTC

Best they can do is "that's the argument from <book or philosopher>, therefore invalid" fallacy. Or get angry and go to personal attacks.

2018-05-29 00:27:35 UTC

Sargon said, on one of his last videos, how he's not interested in engaging into religion debates anymore, he doesn't have the time to read/watch, specially Peterson's lectures.

2018-05-29 00:28:38 UTC

(Frankly, what does Sargon even do the whole day?)

2018-05-29 00:28:59 UTC

"working" on the starship troopers video

2018-05-29 00:38:59 UTC

That fatso is just playing video games all day.

2018-05-29 01:32:16 UTC

I watched the video. Not that deep in analysis. But damn, the comments are full of Peterson haters.

2018-05-29 01:33:38 UTC

```
There was no judeo-christian society before WW2 brought Jews and Christians together. Up to that time, both had been very exclusionary, and certainly Christians commonly demonized Jews for thousands of years.๏ปฟ```

2018-05-29 01:35:24 UTC

There are some creationists there too...

2018-05-29 01:37:49 UTC

There's a Muslim there too.

2018-05-29 01:37:50 UTC

I'm looking foreword to that starship troopers vid tho , it's one of my favorite childhood movies

2018-05-29 01:39:13 UTC

Anyway, the essence of the video is what I guessed. Sam Harris lacks depth. This dude needed depth, because his life was in the shitter, and the more he thought about the things Harris said, the more he started to doubt things.

2018-05-29 01:41:19 UTC

who started to doubt things Sam or Jordan?

2018-05-29 01:41:58 UTC

Mouthy Buddha, the creator of the video. He talks about his personal experience.

2018-05-29 01:42:16 UTC

k right my bad lol

2018-05-29 01:43:20 UTC

meh never got into his shit

2018-05-29 01:43:21 UTC

```
I like both of them, but when it comes to religion the only person who can be right is Sam```

2018-05-29 01:43:25 UTC

Boy, these comments...

2018-05-29 01:44:04 UTC

I'm looking forward for the next Harris-Peterson debate.

2018-05-29 01:44:25 UTC

Peterson said he read all of Harris' book. In like a week.

2018-05-29 01:44:30 UTC

I mean religion is faith based

2018-05-29 01:44:41 UTC

And he was almost shocked about the superficial level of analysis Harris does.

2018-05-29 01:44:58 UTC

So the next debate might have some serious ass-whooping coming Harris' way.

2018-05-29 01:45:42 UTC

No more "well, read my book, then you'll understand what I mean, I won't bother explaining myself right now" excuses.

2018-05-29 01:45:50 UTC

only 10 mind I'll check the vid

2018-05-29 01:49:54 UTC

During the first few Biblical Lectures, I would see some atheists commenting how they were glad Peterson was destroying Christianity. It's funny how people can choose to interpret things to validate whatever they want.

2018-05-29 01:50:31 UTC

Now, because he makes it clear he's making a case for religion (not the theological side, just the practical side), it seems they all turned against him.

2018-05-29 01:57:58 UTC

I can see why as refusing God is a Cardinal sin, and as they see it Jordan is demonstrating that the rules God have given man work not because of a higher wisdom but because, of the human animal or machine had all along an instruction manual he had to discover, also people being tribal and shit

2018-05-29 02:00:21 UTC

the thing Jordan is doing tho is 2 fold such it can attract atheists to religion practices and finally religion

2018-05-29 02:01:19 UTC

Peterson wants to point out that the stories have a meaning. It's not just "stupid nonsense"; if you brush them off with that argument, you're being willfully ignorant.

2018-05-29 02:01:32 UTC

He draws between atheism and pragmatically interpreting religion. If his talks bring atheists into religion, they have to take a step further to get beyond the Gnosticism hurdle

2018-05-29 02:01:43 UTC

He doesn't focus on the existence of God. He focuses on whether people act as if there was a God, or not.

2018-05-29 02:01:56 UTC

And the God they based their acts on, what it's like.

2018-05-29 02:03:15 UTC

For instance, the fact that God can't be of the realm of men. Not a God King, God Emperor, God Pharaoh. There's a meaning behind this particular decision, on how to depict God. And it's most certainly not a universal trait of all religions.

2018-05-29 02:04:03 UTC

The very concept that a King owes something to a greater entity, greater purpose, greater good.

2018-05-29 02:04:20 UTC

if it was directed at me I wasn't brushing off stories in religious texts as nonsense , nor did I say so

2018-05-29 02:04:54 UTC

Not you, but the likes of Dawkins and Hitchens.

2018-05-29 02:05:12 UTC

k cool

2018-05-29 02:08:25 UTC

I d like to see Peterson start a media network like brietbart

2018-05-29 02:10:27 UTC

The Chinese emperors being buried with their armies, concubines, servants. Just so they could continue having power, sex and comfort in the afterlife. The Judeo-Christian God is a symbol that's directly against it. Why didn't the Chinese come up with that idea? They certainly had a very long history to figure it out.

2018-05-29 02:11:03 UTC

also tho the story where Jesus was cursing the Figg tree for not producing fruit has a funny connotation .

2018-05-29 02:13:58 UTC

And boy, do we have Figg trees today...

2018-05-29 02:14:00 UTC

me idk about that , if you ask an archeologist , what we know about the past is really mixed up and very vague to say the least

2018-05-29 02:14:05 UTC

We call them faggots though.

2018-05-29 09:51:15 UTC

The education systen needs to be fixed tbh
https://youtu.be/zDZFcDGpL4U

2018-05-29 10:52:33 UTC

nah, the Starship Troopers film sucks monkey balls, the book is what Sargon is going to be doing a video on

2018-05-29 10:52:40 UTC

and ffs is he taking his time on it

2018-05-29 10:53:02 UTC

would be funny if Peterson ends up turning the online atheists into a new crusade though =p

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