Because there's probably been about 500 since then

fuckin whatever any one will do then lol

i heard people talk about that clip, but no one ever showed it

not sure where to post this so I'm puttin it here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBSOTY1rTtg

Gonna watch that later, but I'm guessing it's what JBP already said: the pop atheists haven't done their homework, they haven't read anything, so they come out shallow when facing counter arguments.

Best they can do is "that's the argument from <book or philosopher>, therefore invalid" fallacy. Or get angry and go to personal attacks.

Sargon said, on one of his last videos, how he's not interested in engaging into religion debates anymore, he doesn't have the time to read/watch, specially Peterson's lectures.

(Frankly, what does Sargon even do the whole day?)

"working" on the starship troopers video

That fatso is just playing video games all day.

I watched the video. Not that deep in analysis. But damn, the comments are full of Peterson haters.

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There was no judeo-christian society before WW2 brought Jews and Christians together. Up to that time, both had been very exclusionary, and certainly Christians commonly demonized Jews for thousands of years.```

There are some creationists there too...

There's a Muslim there too.

I'm looking foreword to that starship troopers vid tho , it's one of my favorite childhood movies

Anyway, the essence of the video is what I guessed. Sam Harris lacks depth. This dude needed depth, because his life was in the shitter, and the more he thought about the things Harris said, the more he started to doubt things.

who started to doubt things Sam or Jordan?

Mouthy Buddha, the creator of the video. He talks about his personal experience.

k right my bad lol

meh never got into his shit

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I like both of them, but when it comes to religion the only person who can be right is Sam```

Boy, these comments...

I'm looking forward for the next Harris-Peterson debate.

Peterson said he read all of Harris' book. In like a week.

I mean religion is faith based

And he was almost shocked about the superficial level of analysis Harris does.

So the next debate might have some serious ass-whooping coming Harris' way.

No more "well, read my book, then you'll understand what I mean, I won't bother explaining myself right now" excuses.

only 10 mind I'll check the vid

During the first few Biblical Lectures, I would see some atheists commenting how they were glad Peterson was destroying Christianity. It's funny how people can choose to interpret things to validate whatever they want.

Now, because he makes it clear he's making a case for religion (not the theological side, just the practical side), it seems they all turned against him.

I can see why as refusing God is a Cardinal sin, and as they see it Jordan is demonstrating that the rules God have given man work not because of a higher wisdom but because, of the human animal or machine had all along an instruction manual he had to discover, also people being tribal and shit

the thing Jordan is doing tho is 2 fold such it can attract atheists to religion practices and finally religion

Peterson wants to point out that the stories have a meaning. It's not just "stupid nonsense"; if you brush them off with that argument, you're being willfully ignorant.

He draws between atheism and pragmatically interpreting religion. If his talks bring atheists into religion, they have to take a step further to get beyond the Gnosticism hurdle

He doesn't focus on the existence of God. He focuses on whether people act as if there was a God, or not.

And the God they based their acts on, what it's like.

For instance, the fact that God can't be of the realm of men. Not a God King, God Emperor, God Pharaoh. There's a meaning behind this particular decision, on how to depict God. And it's most certainly not a universal trait of all religions.

The very concept that a King owes something to a greater entity, greater purpose, greater good.

if it was directed at me I wasn't brushing off stories in religious texts as nonsense , nor did I say so

Not you, but the likes of Dawkins and Hitchens.