I don't even know if Islam ever had a golden age to begin with.

Still you have the House of Wisdom, the preservation of the works of Aristotle and Plato, the development of most of modern math.

They destroyed 90% of the culture they conquered.

Can you imagine what would have been preserved had Islam **not** invaded and destroyed 90% of greek culture?

they were still also technologically more advance then the Europeans until about the European Renaissance

And most of modern math has definitely not been developed by Islam.

@DanielKO Most of our Greek literature was preserved through the House of Wisdom

i am not saying Islam was this great savior

It's funny to be labeled as "preserver" when they're the ones invading the land and destroying most of it.

I mean of course

they are a Empire

Empires conquer

"We didn't burn ALL of the books, you can thank us later."

That is *somewhat* true, but not entirely

you guys badmouthing Islam in here?

I just talking about how the Islamic Empire was more advance technologically then the Europeans until the the European Reissuance.

If anything they preserved the knowledge from those civilizations. But that's about it.

pretty much

again they were not perfect though

they were pretty cruel to the jews

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By the way, the rest of the doctrine found from the greeks and the romans, was in the Byzantine Empire, and it finally really got into Europe... why? Well... the Muslims crushed Constantinople, and the scholars had to flee.```

Plus they invented Algebra, but I don't know how it compares to what other civilizations contributed to Math and Science.

Algebra is pretty important

Greeks could do far more advanced problems without algebra.

@DanielKO The Whole thing with the Byzantine Empire is a complicated mess.

Also dont down play Algebra

its pretty important

And 0.

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One of the things that came out of the "Golden Age" was the philosophy "there is no cause and effect, and there are no natural laws."```

LOL

lol

Algebra started in Babylon and Egypt.

Their is also the Canon book of Medicine

which to be fair was a combination of what greek, muslim, and indian scholars wrote

Let's just say they were good at dissecting humans, I'll give them that.

They were really advanced with medicine fit some reason

they had alot of stuff from Ionian greeks they used

thats how they have alot of Greek stuff mixed in with them

Basically the Chinese and Muslims were more powerful then the Europeans until the 1500s

> Can you imagine what would have been preserved had Islam not invaded and destroyed 90% of greek culture?

Well it's not 100% their fault. The Mongols had something to do with the libraries of Bagdhad

https://youtu.be/2S_rZvyrHDA

Nah

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44205011

It was a rhetorical question. Of course they’re not a credible source anymore. Remember when it wasn’t filled with SJW bullshit?

Yeah but that was ages ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0LE7R_FHy0

Jacob is very good on holding his own reguarding the Catholic Religion

I bet

but in a Liberal Democracy it's supposed to be all good

I'm Catholic my missus was Hindu

I've dated Orthodox Christians, Buddists, ex Muslims

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uR5PyoLa3o

This is is the back of my sisters computer, someone kill me please. <:think_hang:378717098903470080>

Wheh she is single, tell me

I'm going to red pill her

nah, she dating

I know, a latino guy

oh I see what you said

misread that

suppository?

<:pepe_smug:378719408341909506>

Also, she can learn a lot by hanging around this discord

We've all been cringe in our teenager years.

She'll grow out of it.

https://psmag.com/social-justice/white-flight-remains-a-reality

Question: how does the value of your property "deteriorate" if minorities come in?

probably has to do with crime or something

And neighbors not maintaining their homes, leaving everything dirty, smelly.

yup

"White flight eventually becomes more likely in middle-class neighborhoods when the presence of Hispanics and Asians exceeds 25 percent and 21 percent, respectively," Uhh, Asians and Hispanics don't have a high crime rate like African Americans

And it doesnt even necessarily have to be true, it is just the perception that people have of minorities and that is enough to make people want to move

like i said above it probably has more to do with peoples perceptions

And nothing's wrong with that. You can't stop people from moving out of places if they wish to move out.

yup

yes, but this sort of behavior interferes with discrimination laws. I actually spoke about this with someone

lol idk

he says he doesn't get along with blacks and wants to move, that's cool, but he also says that if a black moves into his neighborhood than they can be denied certain things

"One of my neighbors' house smells of weed all the time, the other hasn't maintained his lawn in 3 years, the other has 12+ people living in his house. I guess I'll move out."

his exact words were that black people are jealous of his skin colour

so?

maybe they are

I doubt it.

there is dark skinned light skinned thing in the black community

anyway, besides the race thing, I think there are class reasons for it too

lets say government assistance gets lower class people into a middle class neighborhood

now there is another level of difference there, which might be a greater contributor

because lower class people I think tend to bring in crime

Are poor people entitled to have rich neighbors? Or to local businesses?

no

@DanielKO She's 23.

If I'm raising a family, I'd prefer to live near other families of similarly aged kids, similar income bracket and education level.

think about it, if a bunch of redneck hillbillys moved into your neighborhood and didnt mow their yard and left junk cars in their driveway, you would want to move out
And no one wants to live there, so property values go down

@meratrix better late than never.

live where you want, I'm just saying that when "White Flight" was a thing minorities would get discriminated against. "In the United States, Redlining is the systematic denial of various services to residents of specific, often racially associated, neighborhoods or communities, either directly or through the selective raising of prices. While the best known examples of redlining have involved denial of financial services such as banking or insurance,[2] other services such as health care[3] or even supermarkets[4] have been denied to residents."

@Deleted User And If white people move in, its called gentryfication
So no matter what whites do, they get blamed

unfortunately

"Gentrification is a process of renovation of deteriorated urban neighborhoods by means of the influx of more affluent residents."

I actually dont see how its a bad thing...

Blacks are poor

Cant afford rent