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Kanye might get the demographic of Inner City Urban Youth to vote

now I don't care if they for vote Red or Blue

I just want them to Vote

2018-05-04 04:09:54 UTC

Well more than anything he might just get them to be more industrious and appreciative of hard work and artistry.

2018-05-04 04:10:09 UTC

Which would probably do even more good.

2018-05-04 04:10:26 UTC

And it would also encourage an interest in the function of the state.

2018-05-04 04:10:52 UTC

Even Cardi B got woke on taxes when she started having to pay up millions.

2018-05-04 04:11:02 UTC

No joke.

2018-05-04 04:11:54 UTC

See once you on that rich nigga shit like Ye things change and you start to appreciate business.

2018-05-04 04:12:08 UTC

But only if you can stay pure.

<:think_woke:378717098681171988>

2018-05-04 06:17:54 UTC

Hmmmm

How you like them apples?

2018-05-04 13:29:44 UTC

lol

2018-05-04 15:21:17 UTC

<:pepe_eyes:378719408362881024>

As a Leftist I have always fought the UKIP

but they provide an necessary evil

2018-05-04 15:28:14 UTC

Here's the old one

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/441984407146987522/political_compass.GIF

2018-05-04 15:28:25 UTC

Just did an update

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/441984453548703746/political_compass_2.PNG

2018-05-04 15:31:31 UTC

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1074087-4/

When SF argues about the authenticity of J00s

2018-05-04 15:32:13 UTC

๐Ÿ‘Œ

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/441985409682112522/political_compass.PNG

2018-05-04 15:37:23 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/441986710205759488/8_axis_test.GIF

2018-05-04 15:42:45 UTC

Whereโ€™s that one?

2018-05-04 15:44:07 UTC

It's called 8-axis

2018-05-04 16:53:48 UTC

Completely new topic (sorry guys)
So the alt-right and the left both focus their identity on superficial things like race and gender, right? Right.

I think they both may be right when it comes to identity politics being a natural thing (of course) but that the concept one identifies with can be any number of things like religion, language, race etc.
All pretty obvious things.

How and why do you think the undermining of a national identity happened, and is it possible to reignite that to pull focus away from the superficialities of today to starve the extremes of both sides?

2018-05-04 17:26:14 UTC

National identity degrading is a byproduct if the internet

2018-05-04 17:26:55 UTC

People are so interconnected regardless of geographical distance that your social group is no longer determined by borders

2018-05-04 17:27:00 UTC

At least, not necessarily

2018-05-04 17:27:30 UTC

The volume of Russian/Slavic memes alone is testament to that

2018-05-04 17:27:40 UTC

As you talk to people from all over the world, and develop more kinship with the fat acceptance blogger in Scotland than with the pastor down the street, people stop giving a fuck about nationalism

2018-05-04 17:27:47 UTC

Not all people obviously

2018-05-04 17:27:52 UTC

But it degrades it

2018-05-04 17:28:16 UTC

I've stumbled across so much good music simply from using Coub.com, which is basically a Russian "GIFs with sound" website

2018-05-04 17:31:06 UTC

So am I just hopelessly lusting after a bygone Era of nationalism?

2018-05-04 17:33:57 UTC

nah

2018-05-04 17:34:05 UTC

Not necessarily. People haven't fully figured out how to deal with the internet

2018-05-04 17:34:12 UTC

But they're slowly figuring it out

2018-05-04 17:34:23 UTC

Paradigm shifts in life tend to balance out like this

2018-05-04 17:34:28 UTC

Happened with TV and Radio

2018-05-04 17:34:33 UTC

cultures have changed over the years regardless, often through foreign influence

2018-05-04 17:34:39 UTC

^

2018-05-04 17:34:46 UTC

This just opened the floodgates of that influences

2018-05-04 17:34:47 UTC

Coming to Australia in the 90s and seeing everyone play basketball was pretty wtf in of itself

2018-05-04 17:34:50 UTC

It ought to balance out

2018-05-04 17:34:58 UTC

> People are so interconnected regardless of geographical distance that your social group is no longer determined by borders

Castle of sand. We're connected by the internet but we don't have the mechanisms to sustain the social aspects, so we end up disintegrating

2018-05-04 17:35:16 UTC

Agreed

2018-05-04 17:35:30 UTC

That's why I think it'll slide backwards from the initial craziness

2018-05-04 17:35:35 UTC

But I guarantee you if you flick through the pages of history you'll often stumble across 'traiditional' american/german/british/russian/japanese cultural norms that turned out to have their origins in other places

2018-05-04 17:37:13 UTC

think of how strongly people associate karate witih Japan nowadays

2018-05-04 17:37:42 UTC

yet the first karate club wasn't started in Japan until around the 1930s

2018-05-04 17:41:50 UTC

It's when I come across stuff like this that I get creeped out...
https://www.quora.com/Why-is-national-identity-important

2018-05-04 17:44:50 UTC

huh

2018-05-04 17:46:06 UTC

@Fitzydog those answers are pretty gay

2018-05-04 17:46:23 UTC

it should be renamed to queera

2018-05-04 17:50:07 UTC

Lol right? But look at those upvotes. If that's a popular opinion with no counter argument.... D:

2018-05-04 17:54:18 UTC

tbh,it's not a very well seen question

2018-05-04 17:54:38 UTC

there are actual nationalists on quora and they do get upvotes

2018-05-04 17:54:57 UTC

@Fitzydog do you frequent quora or?

2018-05-04 17:59:39 UTC

No, I'm just throwing shit at the wall, talking out my ass, and sampling the Internet waters.

IMO, this identitarian nonsense is really unhealthy and won't fade away on its own.

2018-05-04 18:04:18 UTC

shits, assholes and water

2018-05-04 18:04:19 UTC

got it

2018-05-04 18:05:02 UTC

What can I say? I'm a plumber

2018-05-04 18:06:33 UTC

"True Communism has never existed" is correct only insofar as Communism as is preached is fantasy

"True Communism has never been tried" is a bit more iffy, since many countries have tried to move towards implementing Communism - and the fact that everything has gone to shit before even reaching the end-goal is testament to the utopian fallacy of 'tw00' Communism

2018-05-04 18:06:35 UTC

Regarding Quora, certain questions are just designed to fit a narrative.

2018-05-04 18:06:43 UTC

yep

2018-05-04 18:06:58 UTC

So only a certain group of people will look for them, and answer them.

2018-05-04 18:07:03 UTC

Good point @Reaps

2018-05-04 18:07:09 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/442024399307276290/IMG_1639.JPG

2018-05-04 18:07:35 UTC

"Does capitalism kill more than communism?", nobody sane would ask that. Commies will flock to that question.

2018-05-04 18:08:05 UTC

yep

2018-05-04 18:08:09 UTC

But under capitalism 86 million people have died due to โ€œpoverty related causesโ€

2018-05-04 18:08:21 UTC

@Deleted User ww2 was caused by commies

2018-05-04 18:08:23 UTC

And Iโ€™m getting this from that one image I posted earlier lol

2018-05-04 18:08:26 UTC

they can get stuffed

2018-05-04 18:08:34 UTC

Same with "Is the Bible pro-slavery?", will have a ton of nuatheists misquote Jesus telling a parable, implying a character in the parable is Jesus himself admitting to having servants/slaves.

2018-05-04 18:08:44 UTC

commies led to the death camps

2018-05-04 18:08:45 UTC

WWII was caused by the Nazis lol

2018-05-04 18:09:03 UTC

@Deleted User Which would never have happeend if the commies were destroyed

2018-05-04 18:09:26 UTC

A) what qualifies poverty-related
B) how many people have died from 'poverty-related causes' under a Communist government
C) is dying from your government *not* paying attention to you better or worse than dying because your government *decided* to pay attention to you

2018-05-04 18:10:44 UTC

Those terms are way too vague to mean something

2018-05-04 18:11:33 UTC

Here's a question: are most African countries capitalist?

2018-05-04 18:11:34 UTC

Also, they are probably counting violence due to poverty as a reason of those deaths

2018-05-04 18:11:55 UTC

Say, in South Africa, it's illegal to sell water.

2018-05-04 18:12:13 UTC

You know, that one place that's running out of water real quick?

2018-05-04 18:12:18 UTC

wow

2018-05-04 18:12:22 UTC

Like, is it worse for a government not to directly be responsible for feeding the population (and some of the population starving to death) or for a government to go out of the way to take food away from you "for the greater good" and you starve to death?

Or to round up your entire village and ship you off to starve to death in a prison camp?

Or just shoot you all into a mass grave?

2018-05-04 18:12:30 UTC

How much of capitalism is that?

2018-05-04 18:14:34 UTC

I wonder how many of those supposed "deaths due to capitalism" come from the African countries where the government keeps undermining their own population.

2018-05-04 18:15:24 UTC

"Capitalism" is to socialists what "J00s" are to tinfoilers

2018-05-04 18:15:36 UTC

^

2018-05-04 18:15:39 UTC

"Cuba is a shithole"

2018-05-04 18:15:48 UTC

YEAH WELL THAT'S CAUSE CAPITALISTS WON'T LET THEM TRADE

2018-05-04 18:16:01 UTC

They can trade with Europe

2018-05-04 18:16:03 UTC

I guess

2018-05-04 18:16:18 UTC

As Sargon pointed out, the point of communism is that trade would become obsolete.

2018-05-04 18:16:21 UTC

Plus, if they actually couldn't trade, Cuban cigars wouldn't be a thing

2018-05-04 18:16:30 UTC

"Isn't trade a capitalist ide-"

SHUTUP

2018-05-04 18:16:31 UTC

So, no Communist state would ever need to trade.

2018-05-04 18:16:55 UTC

wish I could find the video

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