gatekeeper

Like I said I get a lot of concepts and information from other people, mostly on youtube. But I form my opinions on my own

Yes i thought it might be youtubers

anyway it doesnt matter

it doesnt mean capitalism

Well if you reject property rights it means anyone can just go to your car and take it

private property and free exchange of goods is a prominent characteristic of classical liberal thought

but not so much capitalism per say

take john stuart mill

one of the most influencial liberal thinkers

in his later life he was against the wage system

which is intrinsic to capitalism

yes it's true you have classical liberals in the Austran school of economics that championed capitalism. But that's not the same thing as classical liberalism

What's he's alternative to wages?

There's loads of alternatives. Syndicalism for example

If you go back to the bear roots of classical liberal thought

which is the english civil war

one second let me find something

ok so there were many political movemenets at the time

it stems back to the levellers

and the group split into two divisions

one was the diggers of woh were agrarian syndicalists

and the levellers which closely resemble classical liberals

```The Levellers was a political movement during the English Civil War (1642–1651) that emphasized popular sovereignty, extended suffrage, equality before the law, and religious tolerance, ```

this is where are movement starts

JSM entry

```Within this revised work he also made the radical proposal that the whole wage system be abolished in favour of a co-operative wage system. ```

you can be a classical liberal and support other economic systems

it's just we support capitalism because capitalism works

do other systems not work then?

and because it's proven to maximise freedom and liberty more than any other system known

as well as increasing prosperity

Socialism does not work

Syndicalism has been proven to not work too

in Israel you have Kibbutz which were syndicalist

and they were all subsidised by the state

and their produce was inferior compared to what was being produced by the capitalist markets

So if other systems don't work, and capitalism does, then that means capitalism is naturally better

lol

just you wait, with quantum computing, planned economies will usher in the rise of the proletariat!

Yes, when capitalism solves all our problems, then we will have a communist utopia

Capitalism wont solve all the problems since people are identifying problems that arent a problem

like inequality

That is where the gulags come in

let's make everyone equally miserable <:pepe_smug:378719408341909506>

lol

"sure I have a billion dollars, but my neighbor has 2 billion dollars, and that is just unacceptable". Some socialist in the year 2100.

sounds a whole lot like communism

It is like communism

it's utopian

Still don't see why anyone under that system would contrubute anything at all to society

it doesnt work without a state

I mean they get nothing out of it

personally i mean

anyone here in Baked Alaskas server?

http://www.howardischwartz.com/is-private-property-a-natural-right/

Why? @Deleted User

i just got banned

```Locke’s answer then was that human labor made what was “in common” into what was private property. By laboring humans mixed what was their own (“their labor”) in with what was in common. Thus “labor” was the natural means by which what was given in common could be made private. And in this way private property though not existing at the beginning was still part of nature.```

for saying he should be banging dat hot blonde hoe instead of doxxing niggers

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get me unbanned nigger, i love Baked

that chick is a train wreck, and so is he lol

ikr

are you in the server?

I'm not on his server though

Do you think JF and Andy will still have her on their show?

i dont know what the deal is with them having her on

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@Deleted User

i just heard them talk abou it and it seemed weird as fuck

They are weird

It's not a surprise

like, they had all been making fun of the hoe, and now they want her to be a regular on their channel????

JF specially

@Deleted User unban me faggot, im a fan of yours

I watched a five hour stream with them and that chick/baked/etc.

```Property rights and the right of free trade are man’s only “economic rights” (they are, in fact, political rights)—and there can be no such thing as “an economic bill of rights.” But observe that the advocates of the latter have all but destroyed the former.```

JF offered her a job lol

You watched a whole 5 hours stream?

then later she made her own crazy livestream

I watched most of it yeah

why did JF offer her a job?

idk

he probably thought he a chance

i cant believe andy went back to working with JF after JFs sperg out a few weeks ago

andys weak af

JF is a sneaky little man

what sperg out

go to JFs channel, he did a livestream calling out andy

amybe he took it down

when he told andy to stfu and then later cried about the whole thing.

3h and 40 min of roasting

then they made up

And gave him an ultimatum

And Andy literally cucked out

He pretty much lost his channel at that point

Do you think JF was making a calculated bluff with that all or nothing thing?

i dont think so

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Nah

@Deleted User I also think Locke meant that you have a right to own that what you create 'property' and you have a right to freely exchange that