Message from @NightOwl
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I'm just saying it's not exactly a hard concept
I don't think you can call yourself a classical liberal if you dont know who John Locke is
gatekeeper
Like I said I get a lot of concepts and information from other people, mostly on youtube. But I form my opinions on my own
Yes i thought it might be youtubers
anyway it doesnt matter
it doesnt mean capitalism
Well if you reject property rights it means anyone can just go to your car and take it
private property and free exchange of goods is a prominent characteristic of classical liberal thought
but not so much capitalism per say
take john stuart mill
one of the most influencial liberal thinkers
in his later life he was against the wage system
which is intrinsic to capitalism
yes it's true you have classical liberals in the Austran school of economics that championed capitalism. But that's not the same thing as classical liberalism
What's he's alternative to wages?
There's loads of alternatives. Syndicalism for example
If you go back to the bear roots of classical liberal thought
which is the english civil war
one second let me find something
it stems back to the levellers
and the group split into two divisions
one was the diggers of woh were agrarian syndicalists
and the levellers which closely resemble classical liberals
```The Levellers was a political movement during the English Civil War (1642–1651) that emphasized popular sovereignty, extended suffrage, equality before the law, and religious tolerance, ```
this is where are movement starts
JSM entry
```Within this revised work he also made the radical proposal that the whole wage system be abolished in favour of a co-operative wage system. ```
you can be a classical liberal and support other economic systems
it's just we support capitalism because capitalism works
do other systems not work then?
and because it's proven to maximise freedom and liberty more than any other system known
as well as increasing prosperity
Socialism does not work
Syndicalism has been proven to not work too
in Israel you have Kibbutz which were syndicalist
and they were all subsidised by the state
and their produce was inferior compared to what was being produced by the capitalist markets
So if other systems don't work, and capitalism does, then that means capitalism is naturally better
lol