Message from @Baraban

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2018-04-18 13:00:30 UTC  

shocking

2018-04-18 13:00:58 UTC  

I find it shocking that you dont know who he is, yes

2018-04-18 13:00:58 UTC  

I get "insperations" from some poeple but yeah

2018-04-18 13:01:04 UTC  

and you're talking about natural rights

2018-04-18 13:01:20 UTC  

he did not invent natural rights

2018-04-18 13:01:25 UTC  

he didnt

2018-04-18 13:01:25 UTC  

Like I said the concept just make sense

2018-04-18 13:01:28 UTC  

is he the gatekeeper?

2018-04-18 13:01:59 UTC  

We need some standart thay we all agree to use when interacting with other people

2018-04-18 13:02:02 UTC  

But when we talk about property as a natural right, you're talking about the lockean natural rights

2018-04-18 13:02:18 UTC  

In order to leave in freedom and piece at the same time

2018-04-18 13:02:35 UTC  

Yeah I just got that from my head

2018-04-18 13:02:53 UTC  

that doesnt mean people cant think about these things on their own Owl

2018-04-18 13:03:42 UTC  

I highly doubt you've come up with this yourself. I'm certain somoene had said it and you've all just agreed

2018-04-18 13:03:42 UTC  

it's just a guy that thought these same things, and I'm sure he wasnt the first

2018-04-18 13:03:53 UTC  

lol

2018-04-18 13:03:59 UTC  

I know who he is

2018-04-18 13:04:20 UTC  

I'm just saying it's not exactly a hard concept

2018-04-18 13:04:25 UTC  

I don't think you can call yourself a classical liberal if you dont know who John Locke is

2018-04-18 13:04:53 UTC  

gatekeeper

2018-04-18 13:05:01 UTC  

Like I said I get a lot of concepts and information from other people, mostly on youtube. But I form my opinions on my own

2018-04-18 13:05:25 UTC  

Yes i thought it might be youtubers

2018-04-18 13:05:59 UTC  

anyway it doesnt matter

2018-04-18 13:06:03 UTC  

it doesnt mean capitalism

2018-04-18 13:07:04 UTC  

Well if you reject property rights it means anyone can just go to your car and take it

2018-04-18 13:07:06 UTC  

private property and free exchange of goods is a prominent characteristic of classical liberal thought

2018-04-18 13:07:11 UTC  

but not so much capitalism per say

2018-04-18 13:07:16 UTC  

take john stuart mill

2018-04-18 13:07:26 UTC  

one of the most influencial liberal thinkers

2018-04-18 13:07:49 UTC  

in his later life he was against the wage system

2018-04-18 13:08:03 UTC  

which is intrinsic to capitalism

2018-04-18 13:08:28 UTC  

yes it's true you have classical liberals in the Austran school of economics that championed capitalism. But that's not the same thing as classical liberalism

2018-04-18 13:08:37 UTC  

What's he's alternative to wages?

2018-04-18 13:09:03 UTC  

There's loads of alternatives. Syndicalism for example

2018-04-18 13:09:09 UTC  

If you go back to the bear roots of classical liberal thought

2018-04-18 13:09:15 UTC  

which is the english civil war

2018-04-18 13:09:54 UTC  

one second let me find something

2018-04-18 13:10:35 UTC  

ok so there were many political movemenets at the time

2018-04-18 13:10:44 UTC  

it stems back to the levellers

2018-04-18 13:11:06 UTC  

and the group split into two divisions

2018-04-18 13:11:27 UTC  

one was the diggers of woh were agrarian syndicalists