Message from @Baraban
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shocking
I find it shocking that you dont know who he is, yes
I get "insperations" from some poeple but yeah
and you're talking about natural rights
he did not invent natural rights
he didnt
Like I said the concept just make sense
is he the gatekeeper?
We need some standart thay we all agree to use when interacting with other people
But when we talk about property as a natural right, you're talking about the lockean natural rights
In order to leave in freedom and piece at the same time
Yeah I just got that from my head
that doesnt mean people cant think about these things on their own Owl
I highly doubt you've come up with this yourself. I'm certain somoene had said it and you've all just agreed
it's just a guy that thought these same things, and I'm sure he wasnt the first
lol
I know who he is
I'm just saying it's not exactly a hard concept
I don't think you can call yourself a classical liberal if you dont know who John Locke is
gatekeeper
Like I said I get a lot of concepts and information from other people, mostly on youtube. But I form my opinions on my own
Yes i thought it might be youtubers
anyway it doesnt matter
it doesnt mean capitalism
Well if you reject property rights it means anyone can just go to your car and take it
private property and free exchange of goods is a prominent characteristic of classical liberal thought
but not so much capitalism per say
take john stuart mill
one of the most influencial liberal thinkers
in his later life he was against the wage system
which is intrinsic to capitalism
yes it's true you have classical liberals in the Austran school of economics that championed capitalism. But that's not the same thing as classical liberalism
What's he's alternative to wages?
There's loads of alternatives. Syndicalism for example
If you go back to the bear roots of classical liberal thought
which is the english civil war
one second let me find something
ok so there were many political movemenets at the time
it stems back to the levellers
and the group split into two divisions
one was the diggers of woh were agrarian syndicalists