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I just thought those were used for decorations
nopeeeee
In reality europeans arent naturally christians nor any other abrahamic religion. it is an outsider religion imposed on them.
A tree is not inherently evil itโs how it is used.
wat
no
The tree wards off evil
Oh okay
If a tree is able to stop evil spirits then those spirits suck
Well what about a pumpkin?
Decoration for the event
The one who really can stop all evil spirits is Yeshua.
Who?
Yeshua Hebrew for Jesus.
it has a deeper meaning than that
It was originally used for all hallow's eve
neat
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No i'm pretty sure people make jack o lanterns cause it looks nice considering the event these days
A time of year where spirits would sometimes slip into the mortal relm
Jack-o-lanterns were used for that
Plus they were in-season at the time
Oh boi I have a sermon over Halloween and the history behind it the truth might shock you. https://youtu.be/czJWJQQYqJY
Well i don't think people make jack o lanterns these days to ward off the spirits
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I think they just use it as decorations
Don't argue with wikipedia
I really don't think people actually use jack o lanterns to defend against spirits these days
True, but that is how the tradition came to be
Okay then what the hell are we arguing about?
Saying that they ward off evil spirits
They don't cause the hell even is an evil spirit?
what?
that sentence mindfucked me
What did he just say
Seriously...why are people so worried about evil spirits?
well I know for a fact that there are evil spirits
How? What is the purpose of an evil spirit?
Let's just mention the occult museum in Florida
And?
There is some cursed shit there
Why just there tho?
What's so special about Florida?
because the main investigators live there
Actually
nvm that
It's Florida
And they collected a bunch of cursed shit
Of course things are gonna be wacky
so they could lock it up
like chucky
Please many people said that for hundreds of years only for it to be fake
Like those sisters who tricked people into believing that a ghost lived in their house
Only Jesus can ward off spirits through him. You can rebuke evil spirits.
The real Chucky
How is that supposed to make me believe in evil spirits?
Sorry how is this relevant to what we are discussing?
Well if you go to the museum and insult him, you get sick
Not if you have Jesus.
Thatโs more superstitious then anything else though.
You can just get sick by going outside. A few people getting sick because they insulted a doll doesn't make it reality
Please explain the multiple cases of people getting sick
They just got sick
What precentage is that?
Coincidences?
Tell me the precentage of the people who insulted the doll and then got sick immidiately afterwards
Same case with the Annabella doll. Guy insults the doll, dies in an accident the same day and everyone is losing ther shit all of a sudden like that's a frequent event
A movie?
The movie is supposedly based on a true story
Like there is a couple who keep a doll locked up that is called annabella
Well Im not an expert on Christianity so idk if they believe the stuff in those movies verbatim. But typically movies that say "based on a true story/real events" are very far from reality. Even documentaries are often biased.
I do believe in evil spirits but likely not in the same sense they were talking about.
Exactly cause i haven't actually found any official documents about such events and those that i did find were already proven to be fake cases
Well that's for you to believe but i don't believe in them. Nothing wrong with our beliefs really
I personally dont believe in such things as inanimate objects punishing you, nor do I believe in evil spirits immediately punishing or taking over the body.
I just don't believe in evil spirits who are messing with our world
I like how the uploader put up a disclaimer basically saying it might be bullshit
Same. But I think there are other planes that we cannot perceive with our human senses, and sometimes spirits in these other (lower) planes can attempt to interact with us. But mostly to influence us to behave like them rather than possession.
Anyway i only believe in evil and good intentions by individual
And please explain the warrens
What about them?
im watching the video btw
Ya know the couple that were excorcists/demonologists
And? They claim their job is to ward off spirits but they haven't provided proof and what they claim as proof can easily be fabricated stories
e.e
Also when it comes to spirits existing in other planes, that's not something that we can prove. Only believe in which i don't
So you don't believe in ghosts?
I find it more likely that such a plane doesn't exist but realistically speaking that's not something that can be proven at all
No
I don't
.
well I hope you get visted by one
My door is open
My family and I have experienced many paranormal things
What the flying fuck is happening here
An evil doll?
From a little girl asking for for mommy in the bathroom
Paranormal activity? Oh God no please no
Haha
to a cloaked figure standing in the middle of the room
BS
e.e
Pics or it didn't happen
It's actually pretty interesting how the human mind functions. If you believe in something your mind can make things up that look real to you
how would I think up a cloaked figure standing in the middle of my room at age 6
You're 6
You make up stuff with your imagination
At least I am not 1
Easy. You believed in ghosts, your imagination went wild and fabricated something that looks real to you
e.e
Woah what an insult
I did that too
Impossible
Impossible?
There was someting standing in the middle of my room
I believed in ghosts when i was a kid, thought i saw a few and when i stopped believing in them i didn't see anymore ghosts
I was fully awake and did the good ole pinch test
Yeup that thing was there
You really think I'm gonna believe that especially since you were 6?
That thing looked real to you but it didn't exist from an outsiders prespective
And explain to me how a door can swing around multiple times without wind or something pusing it
Strings.
So wait what's the story behind the door?
Mother's story
Your mother is a liar
And I don't tink someone would go in the middle of the night and attach strings to a door
in the city
I would.
Then you are weird
Funny prank.
And your mother said the door was swinging wildly...and when did she do that and did she give the full details?
She gave the details of her room layout and how it would just swing open and close
The bed was facing the door
And you immidiately jumped into the conclusion that it was a ghost? It's not weird cause if you believe in it, you can make it look real
How does a door open and close by itself
and not once not twice more like several times
Depends on a lot of factors. The door itself, the forces applied, how fast was it swinging, the potential energy
I wasn't there so i can't tell you why
If i was i'd explain it in detail
Just imagine opening and closing a door to the point where it almost slams
Like when the air pressure in a sealed chamber is higher than the outside
Lol I've had many "paranormal" things happen to me (ESPECIALLY when I was a kid) - spooky at the time but easily explained with rational thinking.
and the door to the frame making an almost exact 90 degree angle
Is that the angle your mother gave you?
Not the angle, but how it opened and closed
I woke up at night convinced there was a demon bat in my room once. Ran and got my dad. I was terrified at the time, but is it likely that a demon bat was tormenting me?
probably just a normal bat
Like seriously you expect me to give a physics lesson without me being there to actually witness it myself
Well that's what I started to think when I was getting my dad. Even at that age I knew it was silly and I was embarrassed to tell my dad what it seemed like. So I told him I think there's an actual bat in my room
(there wasn't)
I mean it is scary getting a bat in your room since it can carry diseases
Of course. But like I said, no actual bat. And even as a kid, my "demon bat" was embarrassing to tell Dad about
I mean it is always good just to make sure
Not really, as long as you don't go antagonize a bat then you're good
I'm not saying it's wrong to investigate lol
I'd do it for you if you call me to check it out
I would probably slap the bat with a fly swatter
But a bat, there wasn't. Just a kid who had a nightmare and woke up in a dreamlike state
oof
Like i'm with my friends about 6 years ago who were a bunch of pussies being scared of demons in darkness that they aren't willing to go down the basement to investigate a noise
It was just a mouse
The only really scary dream I've had was a scorpion stabbing me to death
I really hated how big it was too
The only scary dream i've had was about Mel Gibson playing in another alien movie
And also how it was talking
The scoprion was speaking better english than me
Right i guess i'll leave it off here
New poll to do with religion in <#508205495853776907>
And a question to hopefully get more people talking
Is Scientology a religion?
Yes
What's your opinion?
Yeah.
They even sent a request to be recognized as a religion.
But I don't think state defines religion.
I think new age religions makes people think they are less legitimate, I guess cults give them a bad vibe. There are quite a bit of recognized new age religions all around the world.
Scientology is just as stupid as the rest of them.
It does have it's own dangers though (all the crazy cult stuff) and seems to be especially keen on extorting money from it's followers
people consent to it
it is not a cult by definition
To be clear, all religions are 100% cults
neat
Also wtf does consent have to do with being a cult? Lol you drink the koolaid and don't even know what's in it
lol
wrong
and how is he wrong?
perception
k
free your inner thoughts
@TheBritishGamer โค๐ (Meh) Scientology is a cult
Religions are all cults, but Scientology is especially culty
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If religion is a clut why do atheists say if your don't believe in what they believe then your stupid or wrong?๐ค
Because you're a fucking retard who needs to shut his mouth because he's making the world a worse place every time he opens it @NobleBeing , how about that? ๐
Anything you say can and will be used against you
Yep typical commie response
No counter argument just reeee
>thinking religion is a cult
>expect to be taken seriously
Depends on what religion/denom
But most religions aren't cults
Oh look it's idiots
What will I do?
Post the definition of a cult again? Probably a waste of time
You guys are dumber than a sack of shit
shitposter
You're projecting again
I thought atheists didn't believe in god or something like that....
Yes
ngl, I went through mah atheist stage and I feel stupid
Itโs because you are.
@Dr.Cosby That's not the actual stance
Don't use etymology to find out the stance
It's not lack of belief
What
Lol throttles
It's rejection of the statement "There is a God or Gods". So it's "There is no God or Gods."
@CoCo malon Are you tophy?
Yeah
Religion is dumb
allah akbar
i mean theres clearly a white old ass man in the sky
daddy issues^
All right, WTF DID I MISS? A debate about atheism and ghosts, and I missed it. ๐ญ
If you don't want to believe in God that is on you. However atheism wasn't even popular until only a while ago when they started bringing it to school.
Yes we should all just blindly do whatever is "popular"
Hopefully you're a Muslim, that's the most popular one these days.
๐คฆ
Dude idc what you are. All I'm saying is that atheism wasn't even a thing and didn't get that big until around 1970s I believe.
Atheism goes pretty far back actually. Naturally, stiffled by religious persecution though
wasn't atheism a big thing during the renaissance
period
I'm talking about in America sorry for not explaining
America hasn't even existed for that long @NobleBeing
I think America has existed in the 1970s, @Daddy didn't say renaissance
Religion of Peace
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