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2019-08-10 19:01:39 UTC

I just thought those were used for decorations

2019-08-10 19:01:43 UTC

nopeeeee

2019-08-10 19:02:06 UTC

In reality europeans arent naturally christians nor any other abrahamic religion. it is an outsider religion imposed on them.

A tree is not inherently evil itโ€™s how it is used.

2019-08-10 19:02:15 UTC

wat

2019-08-10 19:02:17 UTC

no

2019-08-10 19:02:23 UTC

The tree wards off evil

Oh okay

2019-08-10 19:02:40 UTC

If a tree is able to stop evil spirits then those spirits suck

2019-08-10 19:02:57 UTC

Well what about a pumpkin?

2019-08-10 19:03:18 UTC

Decoration for the event

The one who really can stop all evil spirits is Yeshua.

2019-08-10 19:03:28 UTC

Who?

Yeshua Hebrew for Jesus.

2019-08-10 19:03:41 UTC

it has a deeper meaning than that

2019-08-10 19:04:09 UTC

It was originally used for all hallow's eve

2019-08-10 19:04:17 UTC

neat

2019-08-10 19:04:22 UTC

GG @rorschach, you just advanced to level 10!

2019-08-10 19:04:27 UTC

No i'm pretty sure people make jack o lanterns cause it looks nice considering the event these days

2019-08-10 19:04:36 UTC

A time of year where spirits would sometimes slip into the mortal relm

2019-08-10 19:05:01 UTC

Jack-o-lanterns were used for that

2019-08-10 19:05:22 UTC

Plus they were in-season at the time

Oh boi I have a sermon over Halloween and the history behind it the truth might shock you. https://youtu.be/czJWJQQYqJY

2019-08-10 19:05:47 UTC

Well i don't think people make jack o lanterns these days to ward off the spirits

2019-08-10 19:05:54 UTC

GG @Steve The Man ื”ืื™ืฉ, you just advanced to level 3!

2019-08-10 19:05:59 UTC

I think they just use it as decorations

2019-08-10 19:06:25 UTC

Don't argue with wikipedia

2019-08-10 19:06:59 UTC

I really don't think people actually use jack o lanterns to defend against spirits these days

2019-08-10 19:07:12 UTC

True, but that is how the tradition came to be

2019-08-10 19:07:34 UTC

Okay then what the hell are we arguing about?

2019-08-10 19:07:52 UTC

Saying that they ward off evil spirits

2019-08-10 19:08:13 UTC

They don't cause the hell even is an evil spirit?

2019-08-10 19:08:23 UTC

what?

2019-08-10 19:08:40 UTC

that sentence mindfucked me

2019-08-10 19:08:46 UTC

What did he just say

2019-08-10 19:09:12 UTC

Seriously...why are people so worried about evil spirits?

2019-08-10 19:09:27 UTC

well I know for a fact that there are evil spirits

2019-08-10 19:09:46 UTC

How? What is the purpose of an evil spirit?

2019-08-10 19:10:05 UTC

Let's just mention the occult museum in Florida

2019-08-10 19:10:15 UTC

And?

2019-08-10 19:10:23 UTC

There is some cursed shit there

2019-08-10 19:10:42 UTC

Why just there tho?

2019-08-10 19:10:53 UTC

What's so special about Florida?

2019-08-10 19:10:57 UTC

because the main investigators live there

2019-08-10 19:11:01 UTC

Actually

2019-08-10 19:11:04 UTC

nvm that

2019-08-10 19:11:08 UTC

It's Florida

2019-08-10 19:11:17 UTC

And they collected a bunch of cursed shit

2019-08-10 19:11:22 UTC

Of course things are gonna be wacky

2019-08-10 19:11:24 UTC

so they could lock it up

2019-08-10 19:11:36 UTC

like chucky

2019-08-10 19:11:51 UTC

Please many people said that for hundreds of years only for it to be fake

2019-08-10 19:12:42 UTC

Like those sisters who tricked people into believing that a ghost lived in their house

Only Jesus can ward off spirits through him. You can rebuke evil spirits.

2019-08-10 19:12:52 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/523834972126052352/609826515471040542/chucky.jpg

2019-08-10 19:13:07 UTC

The real Chucky

2019-08-10 19:13:27 UTC

How is that supposed to make me believe in evil spirits?

Sorry how is this relevant to what we are discussing?

2019-08-10 19:13:47 UTC

Well if you go to the museum and insult him, you get sick

Not if you have Jesus.

Thatโ€™s more superstitious then anything else though.

2019-08-10 19:14:46 UTC

You can just get sick by going outside. A few people getting sick because they insulted a doll doesn't make it reality

2019-08-10 19:15:01 UTC

Please explain the multiple cases of people getting sick

2019-08-10 19:15:02 UTC

They just got sick

2019-08-10 19:15:16 UTC

What precentage is that?

Coincidences?

2019-08-10 19:15:51 UTC

Tell me the precentage of the people who insulted the doll and then got sick immidiately afterwards

2019-08-10 19:17:21 UTC

Same case with the Annabella doll. Guy insults the doll, dies in an accident the same day and everyone is losing ther shit all of a sudden like that's a frequent event

2019-08-10 19:17:56 UTC

A movie?

2019-08-10 19:18:19 UTC

The movie is supposedly based on a true story

2019-08-10 19:18:47 UTC

Like there is a couple who keep a doll locked up that is called annabella

2019-08-10 19:20:10 UTC

Well Im not an expert on Christianity so idk if they believe the stuff in those movies verbatim. But typically movies that say "based on a true story/real events" are very far from reality. Even documentaries are often biased.

2019-08-10 19:21:31 UTC

I do believe in evil spirits but likely not in the same sense they were talking about.

2019-08-10 19:21:42 UTC

Exactly cause i haven't actually found any official documents about such events and those that i did find were already proven to be fake cases

2019-08-10 19:22:23 UTC

Well that's for you to believe but i don't believe in them. Nothing wrong with our beliefs really

2019-08-10 19:23:43 UTC

I personally dont believe in such things as inanimate objects punishing you, nor do I believe in evil spirits immediately punishing or taking over the body.

2019-08-10 19:24:26 UTC

I just don't believe in evil spirits who are messing with our world

2019-08-10 19:25:20 UTC

I like how the uploader put up a disclaimer basically saying it might be bullshit

2019-08-10 19:25:58 UTC

Same. But I think there are other planes that we cannot perceive with our human senses, and sometimes spirits in these other (lower) planes can attempt to interact with us. But mostly to influence us to behave like them rather than possession.

2019-08-10 19:26:07 UTC

Anyway i only believe in evil and good intentions by individual

2019-08-10 19:26:11 UTC

And please explain the warrens

2019-08-10 19:26:22 UTC

What about them?

2019-08-10 19:26:25 UTC

im watching the video btw

2019-08-10 19:26:58 UTC

Ya know the couple that were excorcists/demonologists

2019-08-10 19:28:04 UTC

And? They claim their job is to ward off spirits but they haven't provided proof and what they claim as proof can easily be fabricated stories

2019-08-10 19:28:10 UTC

e.e

2019-08-10 19:29:29 UTC

Also when it comes to spirits existing in other planes, that's not something that we can prove. Only believe in which i don't

2019-08-10 19:30:22 UTC

So you don't believe in ghosts?

2019-08-10 19:30:22 UTC

I find it more likely that such a plane doesn't exist but realistically speaking that's not something that can be proven at all

2019-08-10 19:30:25 UTC

No

2019-08-10 19:30:30 UTC

I don't

2019-08-10 19:30:32 UTC

.

2019-08-10 19:30:43 UTC

well I hope you get visted by one

2019-08-10 19:30:53 UTC

My door is open

2019-08-10 19:31:32 UTC

My family and I have experienced many paranormal things

2019-08-10 19:31:49 UTC

What the flying fuck is happening here

2019-08-10 19:31:53 UTC

An evil doll?

2019-08-10 19:31:55 UTC

From a little girl asking for for mommy in the bathroom

2019-08-10 19:32:04 UTC

Paranormal activity? Oh God no please no

2019-08-10 19:32:10 UTC

Haha

2019-08-10 19:32:11 UTC

to a cloaked figure standing in the middle of the room

2019-08-10 19:32:18 UTC

BS

2019-08-10 19:32:22 UTC

e.e

2019-08-10 19:32:22 UTC

Pics or it didn't happen

2019-08-10 19:32:45 UTC

It's actually pretty interesting how the human mind functions. If you believe in something your mind can make things up that look real to you

2019-08-10 19:33:14 UTC

how would I think up a cloaked figure standing in the middle of my room at age 6

2019-08-10 19:33:30 UTC

You're 6

2019-08-10 19:33:38 UTC

You make up stuff with your imagination

2019-08-10 19:33:46 UTC

At least I am not 1

2019-08-10 19:33:59 UTC

Easy. You believed in ghosts, your imagination went wild and fabricated something that looks real to you

2019-08-10 19:34:05 UTC

e.e

2019-08-10 19:34:09 UTC

Woah what an insult

2019-08-10 19:34:09 UTC

I did that too

2019-08-10 19:34:13 UTC

Impossible

2019-08-10 19:34:18 UTC

Impossible?

2019-08-10 19:34:39 UTC

There was someting standing in the middle of my room

2019-08-10 19:34:56 UTC

I believed in ghosts when i was a kid, thought i saw a few and when i stopped believing in them i didn't see anymore ghosts

2019-08-10 19:35:12 UTC

I was fully awake and did the good ole pinch test

2019-08-10 19:35:27 UTC

Yeup that thing was there

2019-08-10 19:35:43 UTC

You really think I'm gonna believe that especially since you were 6?

2019-08-10 19:35:59 UTC

That thing looked real to you but it didn't exist from an outsiders prespective

2019-08-10 19:36:13 UTC

And explain to me how a door can swing around multiple times without wind or something pusing it

2019-08-10 19:36:48 UTC

Strings.

2019-08-10 19:36:52 UTC

So wait what's the story behind the door?

2019-08-10 19:37:01 UTC

Mother's story

2019-08-10 19:37:18 UTC

Your mother is a liar

2019-08-10 19:37:34 UTC

And I don't tink someone would go in the middle of the night and attach strings to a door

2019-08-10 19:37:37 UTC

in the city

2019-08-10 19:37:42 UTC

I would.

2019-08-10 19:37:48 UTC

Then you are weird

2019-08-10 19:37:50 UTC

Funny prank.

2019-08-10 19:37:56 UTC

And your mother said the door was swinging wildly...and when did she do that and did she give the full details?

2019-08-10 19:38:36 UTC

She gave the details of her room layout and how it would just swing open and close

2019-08-10 19:39:21 UTC

The bed was facing the door

2019-08-10 19:39:27 UTC

And you immidiately jumped into the conclusion that it was a ghost? It's not weird cause if you believe in it, you can make it look real

2019-08-10 19:39:44 UTC

How does a door open and close by itself

2019-08-10 19:40:25 UTC

and not once not twice more like several times

2019-08-10 19:40:43 UTC

Depends on a lot of factors. The door itself, the forces applied, how fast was it swinging, the potential energy

2019-08-10 19:41:05 UTC

I wasn't there so i can't tell you why

2019-08-10 19:41:15 UTC

If i was i'd explain it in detail

2019-08-10 19:41:19 UTC

Just imagine opening and closing a door to the point where it almost slams

2019-08-10 19:41:59 UTC

Like when the air pressure in a sealed chamber is higher than the outside

2019-08-10 19:42:00 UTC

Lol I've had many "paranormal" things happen to me (ESPECIALLY when I was a kid) - spooky at the time but easily explained with rational thinking.

2019-08-10 19:42:22 UTC

and the door to the frame making an almost exact 90 degree angle

2019-08-10 19:42:42 UTC

Is that the angle your mother gave you?

2019-08-10 19:43:01 UTC

Not the angle, but how it opened and closed

2019-08-10 19:43:03 UTC

I woke up at night convinced there was a demon bat in my room once. Ran and got my dad. I was terrified at the time, but is it likely that a demon bat was tormenting me?

2019-08-10 19:43:15 UTC

probably just a normal bat

2019-08-10 19:43:41 UTC

Like seriously you expect me to give a physics lesson without me being there to actually witness it myself

2019-08-10 19:44:19 UTC

Well that's what I started to think when I was getting my dad. Even at that age I knew it was silly and I was embarrassed to tell my dad what it seemed like. So I told him I think there's an actual bat in my room

2019-08-10 19:44:25 UTC

(there wasn't)

2019-08-10 19:44:45 UTC

I mean it is scary getting a bat in your room since it can carry diseases

2019-08-10 19:45:17 UTC

Of course. But like I said, no actual bat. And even as a kid, my "demon bat" was embarrassing to tell Dad about

2019-08-10 19:45:17 UTC

I mean it is always good just to make sure

2019-08-10 19:45:34 UTC

Not really, as long as you don't go antagonize a bat then you're good

2019-08-10 19:45:41 UTC

I'm not saying it's wrong to investigate lol

2019-08-10 19:46:00 UTC

I'd do it for you if you call me to check it out

2019-08-10 19:46:00 UTC

I would probably slap the bat with a fly swatter

2019-08-10 19:46:17 UTC

But a bat, there wasn't. Just a kid who had a nightmare and woke up in a dreamlike state

2019-08-10 19:46:24 UTC

oof

2019-08-10 19:47:31 UTC

Like i'm with my friends about 6 years ago who were a bunch of pussies being scared of demons in darkness that they aren't willing to go down the basement to investigate a noise

2019-08-10 19:47:43 UTC

It was just a mouse

2019-08-10 19:47:52 UTC

The only really scary dream I've had was a scorpion stabbing me to death

2019-08-10 19:48:30 UTC

I really hated how big it was too

2019-08-10 19:48:43 UTC

The only scary dream i've had was about Mel Gibson playing in another alien movie

2019-08-10 19:48:49 UTC

And also how it was talking

2019-08-10 19:49:16 UTC

The scoprion was speaking better english than me

2019-08-10 19:50:00 UTC

Right i guess i'll leave it off here

New poll to do with religion in <#508205495853776907>

And a question to hopefully get more people talking

Is Scientology a religion?

2019-08-11 16:09:07 UTC

Yes

2019-08-11 16:09:15 UTC

What's your opinion?

2019-08-11 16:12:51 UTC

Yeah.

2019-08-11 16:13:03 UTC

They even sent a request to be recognized as a religion.

2019-08-11 16:13:14 UTC

But I don't think state defines religion.

2019-08-11 16:13:58 UTC

I think new age religions makes people think they are less legitimate, I guess cults give them a bad vibe. There are quite a bit of recognized new age religions all around the world.

2019-08-11 16:31:42 UTC

Scientology is just as stupid as the rest of them.

2019-08-11 16:33:05 UTC

It does have it's own dangers though (all the crazy cult stuff) and seems to be especially keen on extorting money from it's followers

2019-08-11 16:36:22 UTC

people consent to it

2019-08-11 16:36:30 UTC

it is not a cult by definition

2019-08-11 16:42:32 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/523834972126052352/610151069871374337/Screenshot_20190811-094223.png

2019-08-11 16:42:52 UTC

To be clear, all religions are 100% cults

2019-08-11 16:43:21 UTC

neat

2019-08-11 16:44:46 UTC

Also wtf does consent have to do with being a cult? Lol you drink the koolaid and don't even know what's in it

2019-08-11 16:46:40 UTC

lol

2019-08-11 16:46:42 UTC

wrong

2019-08-11 22:09:27 UTC

and how is he wrong?

2019-08-11 22:10:30 UTC

perception

2019-08-11 22:28:19 UTC

k

2019-08-13 09:05:35 UTC

free your inner thoughts

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/523834972126052352/610760853205286912/Above__Beyond_-_Slow_Buchla_Sunshine_Spoken_Word_with_Elena_Brower.mp3

2019-08-13 21:38:18 UTC
2019-08-14 00:54:45 UTC

Religions are all cults, but Scientology is especially culty

2019-08-14 01:29:24 UTC

<:NPC:583235813895176193>

2019-08-14 01:46:43 UTC

<:peepodumb:538083903835996176>

2019-08-16 08:55:50 UTC

@Dr.Cosby dude have you seen The Family on Netflix. Culty as fuck.

2019-08-16 18:54:03 UTC

If religion is a clut why do atheists say if your don't believe in what they believe then your stupid or wrong?๐Ÿค”

2019-08-16 18:56:43 UTC

Because you're a fucking retard who needs to shut his mouth because he's making the world a worse place every time he opens it @NobleBeing , how about that? ๐Ÿ˜‰

2019-08-16 18:57:01 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/523834972126052352/611996853331951953/Daddy.PNG

2019-08-16 18:57:18 UTC

Anything you say can and will be used against you

2019-08-16 19:19:15 UTC

Yep typical commie response

2019-08-16 19:19:48 UTC

No counter argument just reeee

2019-08-16 21:21:31 UTC

>thinking religion is a cult
>expect to be taken seriously

2019-08-16 21:52:56 UTC

Depends on what religion/denom

2019-08-16 21:53:02 UTC

But most religions aren't cults

2019-08-17 00:05:08 UTC

Oh look it's idiots

2019-08-17 00:05:14 UTC

What will I do?

2019-08-17 00:05:34 UTC

Post the definition of a cult again? Probably a waste of time

2019-08-17 00:05:50 UTC

You guys are dumber than a sack of shit

2019-08-17 00:12:55 UTC

shitposter

2019-08-17 02:13:17 UTC

You're projecting again

2019-08-17 02:49:23 UTC

I thought atheists didn't believe in god or something like that....

2019-08-17 03:09:52 UTC

Yes

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/523834972126052352/612120880100802588/unknown.png

2019-08-17 03:12:11 UTC

ngl, I went through mah atheist stage and I feel stupid

2019-08-18 06:17:57 UTC

Itโ€™s because you are.

2019-08-18 18:56:21 UTC

@Dr.Cosby That's not the actual stance

2019-08-18 18:56:30 UTC

Don't use etymology to find out the stance

2019-08-18 18:56:34 UTC

It's not lack of belief

2019-08-18 18:56:35 UTC

What

2019-08-18 18:56:54 UTC

Lol throttles

2019-08-18 18:57:17 UTC

It's rejection of the statement "There is a God or Gods". So it's "There is no God or Gods."

2019-08-18 18:57:24 UTC

@CoCo malon Are you tophy?

2019-08-18 19:03:29 UTC

Yeah

2019-08-19 21:43:56 UTC

Religion is dumb

2019-08-19 21:45:47 UTC

allah akbar

2019-08-20 21:32:20 UTC

i mean theres clearly a white old ass man in the sky

2019-08-21 10:04:37 UTC

daddy issues^

2019-08-21 14:48:45 UTC

All right, WTF DID I MISS? A debate about atheism and ghosts, and I missed it. ๐Ÿ˜ญ

2019-08-21 16:39:24 UTC

If you don't want to believe in God that is on you. However atheism wasn't even popular until only a while ago when they started bringing it to school.

2019-08-21 16:52:36 UTC

Yes we should all just blindly do whatever is "popular"

2019-08-21 16:53:00 UTC

Hopefully you're a Muslim, that's the most popular one these days.

2019-08-21 17:31:30 UTC

๐Ÿคฆ

2019-08-21 17:32:51 UTC

Dude idc what you are. All I'm saying is that atheism wasn't even a thing and didn't get that big until around 1970s I believe.

2019-08-21 18:04:59 UTC

Atheism goes pretty far back actually. Naturally, stiffled by religious persecution though

2019-08-21 18:48:56 UTC

wasn't atheism a big thing during the renaissance

2019-08-21 18:53:07 UTC

period

2019-08-21 19:34:59 UTC

I'm talking about in America sorry for not explaining

2019-08-21 22:54:21 UTC

America hasn't even existed for that long @NobleBeing

2019-08-22 01:14:12 UTC

I think America has existed in the 1970s, @Daddy didn't say renaissance

2019-08-22 02:13:47 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/523834972126052352/613918709081178112/1566277060016.webm

2019-08-22 02:14:14 UTC

Religion of Peace

2019-08-22 09:27:21 UTC

@Dr.Cosby <:haha:583236087137435659>

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