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2019-06-08 22:11:21 UTC [Rhetoric β„’ #general]  

@GoogleThis discord deleted me

Remove kebab

I never thought in 2019 we would get a new and better navy seal copypasta

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/578350904403689480/588288173646544897/IMG_20190612_043735.jpg

Tfw am a fascist but I'm anti death penalty and support reformism to prison similar to sweden .

Last I checked liberalism defends everyone unless they get violent left or right. Do to this Communist and Fascist typically bash liberals as defending the status quo which they do and label them in with the side they hate. I am guilty of this.

I don't either

To me liberalism is why communism is allowed to exist

Tfw most of the time the Gas thing is a meme like Gulag jokes.

Last I checked liberalism, Fascism and socialism has all killed people big L. Historically this happens because ideology tends to only want itself to have control. Different people just pick a different side.

I believe the term here is revisionism

Stalin was based

Stalin is more conservative than modern conservatives is funny

Yea but later he killed them, Hitler did the same thing by taking support from industrialists to win power.

For one I believe the State is more important than the race. Two jews aren't a problem only class relations. Three all of these can be solved by totalitarianism.

If you read Mussolini biography literally says he should have sided with Austria and declared war on Hitler before they were annexed .

Why is Stalin bad?

Stalinism is literally just Marxist leninism.

He's probably an AnCom

Tfw should I dox myself

Here's my dox, I added some captions

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/578350904403689480/589824925972561930/JPEG_20190610_234815.jpg

All weebs are in my harem.

Most socialist typically talk about direct democracy that's probably why

<:Gulag:575374484685586473>

Red Brown alliance

Crush the anarchist

@☭ Anon ☭ honestly what makes modern socialist so liberal Is the embracing of intersectionality. Actual orthodox Marxist who only follow materialism actually understand socialism, don't get corrupted by rainbow capitalism. I can sympathize with marxist here though I'm not one

Anarchism tends to make them liberal spergs too.

I'm a fascist but I believe the holocaust happened but I personally don't care about it. I look at it like the Great Leap Forward, Holodomor or the Armenian Genocide. I just don't care about them

@Renikus <:Gulag:575374484685586473>

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@Communist last year on 8 values I was
100% Socialist
95% Chauvinist
95% Totalitarian
99% Reactionary

My result was Stalinism / Maoism

I went from Conservatism to Marxist leninism then to Nazbol and to fascism over the period of 6 years.

German Nazbol is just worker councils with cultural nationalism. It's not that much different than Leninism it just scraps the ideal of internationalism.

Idk Juche is pretty cool

But it's nationalist

Juche has a term called International Nationalism

International Nationalism would entail an economic cooperation between all Socialistic partners, so as to avoid the counterproductive aspects of economic competition between states.Β  Allowing for economic and poltical collaboration against capitalism. Only dissolving the state after capitalism is gone internationally but allowing for nationalism to exist. Juche sees nation as existing outside the State.

@☭ Anon ☭ though I'm Fash I like Juche more than I have problems with it. It's actually really close to Fascism when it started before it adopted economic corporatism along with Actual Idealism into its philosophy. Prior to corporatism was a type of Guild Socialism.

No I don't think they're corporatist I said before Fascism adopted corporatism they're close to how it was before that. Economy socialist and nationalist but layer fascism switched to corporatism after Gentile introduced actual idealism into the party

The only modern corporatist states are Syria, Iran, China, Singapore, and Russia.

It really refers to economies coordinated by guilds, cooperatives, unions or technocratic bureaus

China_Corporatism_and_the_East_Asian_Model.pdf

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/578350904403689480/589833718236053504/China_Corporatism_and_the_East_Asian_Model.pdf

I mean corporatist literature uses the term mercantilism which is a type of State capitalism

On this document I have a point called state corporatism that explains my position to corporatism
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DwHs77x_F3YGHNDjAXjMISy2I-QRaNeBUr9Di3RY1dA/edit?usp=drivesdk

For the whole point is to have state-owned guilds that allows to State the centrally planned production and if the company doesn't listen they're simply nationalized at least that's how I formulated it

Markets are constructed by a state anyways they don't exist outside of the state

With labor-backed currency you can actually make currency inflation proof so there's no such thing as a depression

Imperialism is it necessarily A Bad Thing

The feudal mode of production which is an economy coordinated by state-owned guilds like what I have. Marx’s term for it was feudal socialism as a smear.

Private property isn't a real thing either

Don't Patrol thots get them pregnant

Redit, 8chan, 4chan, and discord made me racist

Was actually. Adequate harmful by books, just shitpost on those webforms

@Deleted User that's my buddy Arie with the bathory shirt, he's a skin head.

Getting abused by trannies

What's this

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Ethno Swamp

Rope for race mixer Donkey

2019-06-17 21:10:10 UTC [Rhetoric β„’ #general]  

Cope

2019-08-23 04:21:09 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

3:08 he dropped a red pill https://youtu.be/-CcEZ8d3MGQ

2019-08-23 08:11:13 UTC [Rhetoric β„’ #general]  

@RandomDiscordAccount its me Zolt again

2019-08-23 08:11:27 UTC [Rhetoric β„’ #general]  

Back from another deletion

2019-08-24 05:42:07 UTC [Rhetoric β„’ #general]  

@RandomDiscordAccount so my new YouTube channel is actually starting to get a lot of videos out

2019-08-24 06:28:55 UTC [Rhetoric β„’ #general]  
2019-08-24 07:31:01 UTC [Rhetoric β„’ #voice-related]  

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2019-08-24 09:35:35 UTC [Rhetoric β„’ #voice-related]  

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2019-08-24 09:36:03 UTC [Rhetoric β„’ #voice-related]  

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2019-08-24 09:36:55 UTC [Rhetoric β„’ #voice-related]  

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2019-08-24 09:37:26 UTC [Rhetoric β„’ #voice-related]  

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2019-08-24 14:46:13 UTC [Rhetoric β„’ #general]  

Dab

2019-08-29 04:40:37 UTC [Rhetoric β„’ #general]  

@aura is a trap

So did I just kill this dude on Surplus labor value?
https://twitter.com/Bakunin3Vuitton/status/1169430594398412800?s=09

No but never responded after making Tow Short snarky comments

2019-09-08 14:28:38 UTC [333 #lobby]  

2019-09-10 03:07:08 UTC [Rhetoric β„’ #general]  

@waifu post feet in stocking pictures

@aura you too

2019-09-11 02:52:22 UTC [Rhetoric β„’ #general]  

@aura post them

2019-09-12 23:31:41 UTC [Rhetoric β„’ #general]  

I'm in the video with duke https://youtu.be/lTgKw7pEyHE

2019-09-23 16:01:13 UTC [Rhetoric β„’ #general]  

Rape

2019-09-23 16:01:21 UTC [Rhetoric β„’ #general]  

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2019-09-23 16:01:37 UTC [Rhetoric β„’ #general]  

@aura ^ your man

2019-09-29 11:31:17 UTC [Rhetoric β„’ #library]  

Brief introduction to the big concepts in GA:
http://anthropoetics.ucla.edu/gaintro/

Other introductions:
https://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/4167
http://anthropoetics.ucla.edu/views/vw574/

And a blog as an aid in studying GA: https://theglossary.home.blog/generative-anthropology/

2019-10-01 13:40:33 UTC [Blue Politics #serious-discussion]  

http://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/park.htm

The guy who was responsible for the modernization of South Korea,
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Park_Chung-hee

2019-10-01 13:41:02 UTC [Blue Politics #general-chat]  

All people with anime profile pictures are in my harem

2019-10-22 00:24:49 UTC [Rhetoric β„’ #library]  

I made a quick PDF of "Genesis and Structure of Society by Giovanni Gentile"
Hopefully people can read this mans work now without the paywall.
https://t.co/7G2D7t5qu0

2019-11-14 23:15:12 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Oof

2019-11-14 23:15:30 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Sup

2019-11-14 23:16:29 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

@Epic Style add me and trad nat is still up

2019-11-15 00:36:20 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Nick is just doing the sane dumb crap that made GLR create the Nazi party in the US. Infiltrating doesn't work

2019-11-23 01:33:22 UTC [Bread Club #voice-chat]  

I see me

2019-11-25 08:19:49 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Who wants a meme?

2019-11-25 08:20:07 UTC [JFG.world #memes]  

Meme drop

2019-11-25 08:20:20 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

I just dropped it in memes

2019-11-25 08:20:43 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Check

2019-11-25 08:21:42 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Oof

2019-11-25 08:21:53 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

<:varg:552804477590044674>

2019-11-25 08:23:02 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Based

2019-11-25 08:26:48 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Reeeee

2019-12-02 17:19:14 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Tfw all LGBT are mentally insane and are moral syphilis personified

2019-12-05 16:17:27 UTC [JFG.world #general]  

Dab

2019-12-05 16:20:03 UTC [Blue Politics #general-chat]  

Oof

2019-12-06 17:54:43 UTC [The Right Cafe #tests]  

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2019-12-06 18:10:19 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

<:kys:591182416262070282>

2019-12-06 18:15:32 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

@Shalopy how's halo reach on mcc?

2019-12-06 20:50:15 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

@Shalopy add me on xbox Reza Zoltanee , I'll be on tomarrow we can play

2019-12-06 23:16:15 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

F

2019-12-06 23:16:27 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

<:butthurt:591182221264551937>

2019-12-06 23:17:01 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Spook discussion I see

2019-12-06 23:21:54 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Flat earth thing was a dumb protestant thing

2019-12-06 23:22:23 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

Catholics and Orthodox knew the earth was actually round

2019-12-06 23:34:01 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

@Maksim not sure if you've seen but here

https://youtu.be/p4osVMi1vHI

2019-12-07 12:09:57 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

<:scared:591188576859979778>

2019-12-07 13:00:45 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

Does anyone in the server speak Portuguese because I need a translation?

2019-12-07 15:11:18 UTC [The Right Cafe #tests]  

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2019-12-07 18:00:13 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

Well NazBol like what was came to in the video is, its just Marxist leninism that doesn't deny race. Still stupid

2019-12-07 18:00:33 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

Strasserism is stupid for other reasons like being neo fudalism

2019-12-07 18:45:42 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

What the hell are you talkin about all the people who're apart of the original National Bolshevik movement still identified as communist and Marxist first-hand. It's simple read the f****** Manifesto, literally a worker council state. Sees internationalism as an end gaol in the futur. This is purely on the German manifestation not they Social Democrat Russian one that's not even socialist.

2019-12-07 18:48:23 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

Next to that National Bolshevik racial views aren't that much different than Marx in terms of race relations. The guy was more racist and a real practical terms than Hitler. Modern communism Implemented intersectionality which is why it has humanism inside of it unlike original Marxism. Marx rejected humanism as a type of idealism, next to that the guy hated degenerate because he saw them as a product of the capitalist system ie lumpin proletariat which most communist fall into ironically.

2019-12-07 18:51:44 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

My disagreements with Marx like Strasser are more flushed in terms of overall philosophy, ontology, and economics anyways

2019-12-07 18:52:21 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

All reds deserve zero tolerance and shouldn't be allowed to operate on a platform.

2019-12-07 18:52:51 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

I'll go even further if you're a fascist and you disagree with Hitler you also don't deserve a platform

2019-12-07 18:53:47 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

I identify with national socialism more than anything

2019-12-07 23:53:59 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Educational reform on compulsory education while also creating a unified national
framework, national standards, core curriculum, and guidelines for schools to follow, will give
success and prosperity for the nation. Schools nationwide will now be directly controlled by the
federal state no longer allowing for slight regional differences in educational approach. I wish for a
more classical education system of Trivium & Quadrivium expanding to practical skills in high
school (shop class, auto repair, home-ec, etc). Mandatory Phys Ed based on fitness training
then mandatory extracurricular exercise after school (sports, boxing, etc). A higher starting
salary for Teachers at $55,000. Teachers should also wear a uniform like any other public
servant. Decorations of academic achievements should illuminate their chest as a visual display
of a teacher's services. Teachers should receive raises or pay deductions based on the
performance of student academic achievements. Homeschooling and parochial schools will be
allowed for families and communities that desire to educate their children in that manner. A propose a complete overhaul of the entire education system controlled by the Federal state so an
emphasis on history, national identity, and comradeship that the national community provides. The old college system will be dismantled completely for we want higher affordable education
thus we will implement a new national system of affordable higher education based on the guild
system providing low-cost vocational education, trade schools, specialized colleges including
domestic industry and manufacturing trade schools creating low-cost higher education. Forgive all current student debt.

2019-12-08 00:09:05 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

I don't like the regional state system. I despise republicanism, democracy and any type of liberalism. The state system ensures a culturally, histrically and identity that is not fundamentally unitary. A nation is only a nation when it fully fits these while America has never done so.

2019-12-08 05:09:45 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

@Louis XIV (aka 1685Violin) depends, feudal monarchy was decentralized, absolutism was not and neither was fascism. I'm not interested in Liberalism or the feudal order. I'm interested in Empire, absolutist ontology and metamodernism

2019-12-08 09:46:21 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

@Otto I'm not sure, all the other Fascist in the axis were shit in combat unless the Germans worked directly with them. I wish the Republicans took over in Spain just to kill Franco and Salazar. Dollfuss like Strasser deserved death. Mussolini was mostly a brainlet and Romania was ussless. Vichy should have just been annexed also ussless.

2019-12-08 09:55:30 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

Actual Idealism and Existential Nihilism makes the most sense for me

2019-12-08 09:55:52 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

Nah

2019-12-08 09:56:41 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

Generative Anthropology gang

2019-12-08 09:56:58 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

Religion is just a construct of power, should be seen as a tool to construct new culture, morality and mindsets from the High. In terms of geologically requires the absolute state. I see christianity personally as something to be used, don't actually think it

2019-12-08 09:57:47 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

I wouldn't mind Christianity made secular becomes liberalism

2019-12-08 09:59:07 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

Eastern philosophy > paganism and abrahamic faiths

2019-12-08 10:00:36 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

So Eastern philosophy refers to Dao, Buddhism and Hinduism. I don't believe the overall religion but I buy the concept of absolutes presuppose opposites only existing in unity through Power

2019-12-08 10:01:40 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

30000 Christian denominations about half like Jews

2019-12-08 10:01:45 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

<:kys:591182416262070282>

2019-12-08 10:06:03 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

Galatians 3:28

2019-12-08 10:06:36 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

Make that secular and you have liberalism with equality on what I quoted

2019-12-08 10:07:27 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

Ok, all faith is a tool of the state

2019-12-08 10:10:51 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

1 Corinthians 2:13

2019-12-08 10:11:12 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

Actually a good one

2019-12-08 10:13:44 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

You look in the fascism hard enough you see the link to Hegel which pulls from Eastern philosophy in terms of Dharma for Providence but more or less use any type of religion outside of this is seen as constructed tools of the high.

2019-12-08 10:14:47 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

Myth of the 20th century

2019-12-08 10:18:28 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

We pulling Hitler quotes now

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/587015719141507102/653178580041465856/unknown-1.png

2019-12-08 16:25:39 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

Cum

2019-12-08 16:27:25 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

<:Chad:591182354270257170>

2019-12-11 22:10:11 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

@A Russian Bad Actor you're a trap

2019-12-11 22:10:22 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

You forgot to say Boomer

2019-12-11 22:11:29 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

Just uploaded this https://youtu.be/jDtbpeeIrFQ

2019-12-11 22:25:02 UTC [The Right Cafe #tests]  

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2019-12-11 22:32:52 UTC [The Right Cafe #tests]  

Tfw all I did was Read Hegel, Schopenhauer, Giovanni Gentile, Nietzsche, and Alfred Rosenberg. Not even religious.

2019-12-11 22:34:51 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

@21ooAB I see you have the game too. I really hate once you get the double blade upgrade you can't change the other switch.

2019-12-11 22:35:28 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

@Ater Votum I hate when you argue with left this over it and ask for a list

2019-12-11 22:35:35 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

It's like disingenuous

2019-12-11 22:38:46 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

Oof

2019-12-11 22:39:53 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

Well there is fascist who hate Nazis in the server but they're the minority

2019-12-11 22:40:04 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

<:scared:591188576859979778>

2019-12-11 22:40:38 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

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2019-12-11 22:40:49 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

<:Chad:591182354270257170>

2019-12-11 22:45:31 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

Fuck

2019-12-11 22:46:53 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

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2019-12-11 22:50:21 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

This screen cap y

2019-12-11 22:53:46 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

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2019-12-11 22:53:52 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

Think again

2019-12-11 22:54:13 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

All jews are part of the problem

2019-12-11 22:56:35 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

Otto weininger realize this that's why he killed himself

2019-12-11 22:56:59 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

Well I just Justified it's the complete antithesis to Western civilization

2019-12-25 22:40:54 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

Happy Yule

2019-12-26 01:18:56 UTC [The Right Cafe #tests]  

Bet

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/649889676856918017/659565780186431518/image0.jpg

2020-01-03 02:07:19 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

Hmmm

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/587015719141507102/662477058898788353/image0.png

2020-01-03 02:09:16 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

Sorelian France mod

2020-01-15 11:38:18 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

Hot

2020-01-16 09:50:12 UTC [The Right Cafe #tests]  

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2020-01-21 20:45:05 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

He posted anime

2020-01-24 15:22:14 UTC [The Right Cafe #tests]  

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2020-01-27 23:13:07 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

I got invited on this podcast if anybody’s interested https://youtu.be/QuKbpZR-qJM

2020-01-27 23:14:05 UTC [The Right Cafe #tests]  

Always center right or center left

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/649889676856918017/671493159582302259/image0.jpg

2020-01-30 02:10:49 UTC [The Right Cafe #tests]  
2020-01-30 02:12:09 UTC [The Right Cafe #serious]  

He was only anti-Jewish as far as the cosmopolitan laws were meant to be established meaning only those who supported various forms of anti-Soviet ideas. Jews were also only persecuted from a religious basis not racial. I would say the failure is the lack of racial persecution.

2020-02-01 01:53:54 UTC [The Right Cafe #tests]  

@Deleted User chad gang

2020-02-01 01:54:37 UTC [The Right Cafe #tests]  

Ok this is Epic

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/649889676856918017/672983112845885460/image0.jpg

2020-02-01 02:03:34 UTC [The Right Cafe #tests]  

I retook it it’s been about three years

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2020-02-01 02:04:17 UTC [The Right Cafe #tests]  

Not surprised because the Chinese state isn’t socialist but corporatist

2020-02-01 02:38:20 UTC [The Right Cafe #tests]  

Reza Hasmath - The Chinese Corporatist State: Adaption, Survival and Resistance

Aldo Musacchio - Reinventing State Capitalism

Joshua Kurlantzick - State Capitalism: How the Return of Statism is Transforming the World

Ezra Vogel - Deng Xiaoping and The Transformation of China

Elizabeth Economy - The Third Revolution: Xi Jinping and the New Chinese State

2020-02-01 02:38:31 UTC [The Right Cafe #tests]  

Best books on it

2020-02-01 02:43:11 UTC [The Right Cafe #archive]  

I was on this stream

https://youtu.be/QuKbpZR-qJM

2020-02-02 01:19:57 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Anybody who calls himself a socialist in the United States is most likely what Sorel called parliamentary socialist

2020-02-02 01:20:14 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Ie a libtard soc dem or anarchist sperg

2020-02-02 01:22:00 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

I have more respect for state socialist however their ideology is a complete paradox. They take the position of Marx which is based on individualistic ontology like liberalism because it argues the individual is pre-existing state and the point of the theory is to destroy the state internationally because it holds β€œcapitalist relations”. Obviously putting communes or worker councils with state oversight means the state bureaucrats are going to eventually run the economic sector and then you end up with something like modern China a corporate technocratic system, which is insanely superior to liberal free markets.

2020-02-02 01:23:26 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

The fundamental problem with socialism in its current form is liberal ontology. If you get rid of liberal ontology and materialism you will end up with something more analogous to mercantilism or Guilds.

2020-02-02 01:24:43 UTC [The Right Cafe #tests]  

@Ater Votum yup it’s China just managed better

2020-02-02 01:28:02 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Possession is the act of possessing. Property is the act of ownership as recognized by law.

Law is administered and is a function of a judiciary and legal system maintained by a political organisation. Custom is collectively acknowledged conduct in accordance with authority (implicitly or explicitly.)

But why would these concepts be conflated so much by all modern political theory from the 1600s to the present? Again, Hodgson notes the connection between such opposites as Marx and Mises on page 105 and page 106:

β€œConsider the Austrian school economist Ludwig Von Mises. He argued that legal concepts could be largely relegated from economics and sociology…

Hence for Von Mises, ownership was natural and ahistorical rather than legal or institutional. A physical rather than a social relationship, it was deemed independent of law or any other social institution. Von Mises downgraded the institutions required for the protection and enforcement of the capacity to have and neglected the social aspects of ownership and consumption, which may signal identity, power, or status. Contrary to Mises, the law does not simply add a normative justification for having something: it also reinforces the de facto ability to use and hold onto the asset.

2020-02-02 01:28:17 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

The resemblance to Marx’s dismissal of law is uncanny: both Marx and Von Mises concentrated on raw physical power over objects rather than legal rights. Marx’s numerous discussions of β€œproperty” had little to say about legal rights, and he conflated property with possession. Hence Marx (1975,351) in 1844 addressed ” private property” and argued that β€œan object is only ours when we have it-…when we directly possess, eat, drink, wear, inhabit it, etc.,-in short, when we use it.” With both Marx and Von Mises, effective power over something is conflated with a de facto right. Legal and moral aspects of property are overshadowed.”

Of course they both would. They are both trying to define away the state in the issue of property. This is the key issue. All modern theory is fundamentally anarchist, it just varies in how delusional it is on this point.If all property is really possession, then we have to try to explain how and why people stay together – Hobbes. At which point the state is really a kind of alien entity which is called in as an umpire, or a stationary bandit that enforces these peer to peer agreements between property holders/ possession holders. When the likes of Adam Smith then talk about governance and sovereignty whilst holding the labor theory of value, he makes no sense. No one does.

2020-02-02 01:28:49 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

Just one of the small things I’m willing to explain that shows that Marxism is literally just another formation of liberal autism

2020-02-02 01:59:22 UTC [The Right Cafe #aesthetic]  

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2020-02-02 22:50:18 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

The only thing the Neo liberal revolution did was help economic growth other than that it’s been fundamentally a disaster humanity

2020-02-03 00:12:47 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  
2020-02-03 00:13:03 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

Stuff

2020-02-03 00:13:22 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

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2020-02-03 00:13:44 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

Because everybody with an anime profile picture is a tranny

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