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GG @SUPER GAMMING WARLORD MEGA MAN, you just advanced to level 5!
@CallMeTruckson it's literally only possible to make that claim if you are ignorant of the life of Muhammad and the life of Jesus
With your logic
crusades, the salem which trials, the spanish inquisition, the slaughter of native americans
@CallMeTruckson those historical events do not derive from the teachings of Jesus, nor his life and example, nor the teachings of the Bible
You are making a very common mistake based on common assumptions
green but they were following his book and the teachings in the same book
The crimes committed by Christians occur when Christians go against Jesus teaching and example. The crimes of Islam happen when Muslims follow Mohammads teaching and example
green than whats the point?
If I give you a set of rules and you do the exact opposite you can't blame me and my rules that you broke
lets follow the rules half of the time?
green then they werent christians
Exactly
so if you need to start sinning you just pretend you arent a christian?
Do you understand the difference between breaking a law and following a law?
The Islamic law is not killing innocent people
yes, and the law says to kill them
what does the bible say to do to a city that worshipps another god?
Jesus commands us not to kill. If a Christian kills he is going against christs teaching.
Muhammad taught To kill. If a Muslim kills he is following Muhammad's teaching.
Do you see how those are different?
kill everyone burn the city ro the ground and kill all the livestock
keep the women who have not known a man for yourselves
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@CallMeTruckson old testament does not apply. You need to criticize Jesus and the gospels if you want to criticize Christianity
green then why is it there?
It is a part of the Bible
if you buy a computer manual and it says to fix your pc you need to dance in a circe than kill a bird, would you still use it?
@SUPER GAMMING WARLORD MEGA MAN under Islamic law being an unbeliever, being a member of another religion or speaking bad of the prophet are enough to make you not innocent and a target of violence. The only innocent person in Islam is a Muslim.
green just like christianity, look at the christchurch murders, that was a christian
Isn't speaking bad a form of attack though?
what does that teach? if you are ia muslim and trying to be peacfull, dont even bother we will kill you anyway
A verbal one not physical
Alright, @Deleted User has been warned for '**Duplicated text**'.
What? Why did I get a warning for duplicated text?
No clue
dont spam the same crap too much
@CallMeTruckson the Christchurch massacres were not in any way shape or form Christian. It really saddens me people can be that badly confused ๐
green how do you figure, it was a trump religious zealot, when does it end?
@CallMeTruckson I'm sorry I have no idea what you Mean about dancing around the Computer with a bird... ๐ค
green when you are part of a religion, you are responsible for the zealots, stop pretending that the muslims only are
green you claim the bible is a book about how we should live our lives, the book has wroing things and miracles that could never happen, like a snake talking or an all powerful god not knwing something
You still don't understand?
it was a juxtaposition
Islam mandates terrorism and attack and war. Christ forbids it. If someone goes directly against what christ teaches you obviously can't blame christ. If someone does what the Quran commands than obviously you can blame the Quran. The Christchurch shooter was politically, not religiously motivated. There is nothing in Christianity or the gospels or the teachings of christ that can be stretched in any way shape or form to supporting or encouraging the Christchurch terrorism.
green so does christianity, and those muslims were following the wrong teachings
This is actually straight forward and I have explained it very clearly. If you persist in misunderstanding it is a willfull self deception
Again
I don't know how many times I have repeated it in this channel
green, they have the same excuses, those muslims were zealots, all muslims arent responsible, and those verses arent followed anymore
@CallMeTruckson the problem is you obviously haven't read the Bible or Quran nor studied the life of Jesus nor Muhammad. You have an opinion but no basis for it.
green thats your opinion, i have a bible right in front of me
its a false book
If you studied the Quran you wouldn't be making such claims
@CallMeTruckson "those verses aren't followed anymore" it doesn't work that way in Islam friend. The Quran is the eternal incorruptible word of God. No Muslim is permitted to "not follow" any part of it. Ever.
GG @Deleted User, you just advanced to level 6!
You are literally just googling to find arguments against islam
if you have studied the quran that means you have studied the bible
@SUPER GAMMING WARLORD MEGA MAN I do study Quran. And hadith. And the life of Muhammad. And the history of Islam.
@CallMeTruckson I have read the Bible cover to cover and have studied it all my life
green, actually the newer verses overwrite the old verses
Not that I'm an expert. I'm not.
green it doesnt take a lifetime to see that all religion is man made
@CallMeTruckson yes. And the warlike verses come after the peaceful and tolerant ones. The tolerant verses are abrogated by the jihad verses
do you study the quran?
@CallMeTruckson even if you believe both Islam and Christianity are false and fake and bullshit that doesn't make them equivalent or the same in content and implications
@CallMeTruckson are you asking me? I already said I study Quran, hadith and the life of Muhammad as well as the history of Islam
if they are written off eachother and judaism, then yes they are
It saddens me to see your confusion
but you hold it to a diferent light than christianity
I'll add you as friend if you accept I can help you study
no thanks
Just because Muhammad plagiarized parts of what he knew about Christian and Jewish texts in his region doesn't mean that what he came up with is in any Way similar or the same as Christianity
Other than a few of the same characters and vaguely recognizable versions of some stories with key elements changed
buddhism and hinduism are similar
Wait
if hinuism didnt exist, buddhism would be very different
@SUPER GAMMING WARLORD MEGA MAN I don't just Google arguments against Islam. I also study and engage in debates with Muslims so I've heard both sides of the arguments.
You're claiming an illiterate man living in the desert plagiarized the Bible?
Okay that's good to hear
@CallMeTruckson Buddhism and Hinduism are much more similar than Islam and Christianity in terms of moral and spiritual implications
did you know him? was he illiterate?
green except that sprirtuality in the bible is forbidden, back in the day
@SUPER GAMMING WARLORD MEGA MAN yes an illiterate man had access to Christian and Jewish people who told him stories that he included in the Quran
@CallMeTruckson not sure what you mean about spirituality in the Bible is forbidden back in the day?
green back 300 years ago if you mentioned a ghost or spirit you would have been tortured
Not sure what you mean
@SUPER GAMMING WARLORD MEGA MAN @CallMeTruckson just wanted to say I mean no disrespect at all to any individual or group and am just trying to have a factual discussion of Islam and Christianity as ideologies. I respect other people's right to believe as they will and mean no disrespect. I hope I've been respectful and kept to the points. If not I apologize
Same
I actually enjoyed talking to you two unlike the rest lol
Even though our views are all different
@Deleted User what is your view on the Trinity and the whole 1+1+1=3 thing
How can God, Jesus and the Holy spirit all be one at the same time
1+1+1=1
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thats a question i have asked a lot, if god is all powerful why cant he forgive without jesus
I just realized what i wrote lmfao
And wouldn't it be polytheistic since Jesus is also worshipped
lol yep
@SUPER GAMMING WARLORD MEGA MAN I enjoy talking to you guys too. Thanks.
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