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2019-04-24 21:05:03 UTC

GG @SUPER GAMMING WARLORD MEGA MAN, you just advanced to level 5!

2019-04-24 21:05:16 UTC

@CallMeTruckson it's literally only possible to make that claim if you are ignorant of the life of Muhammad and the life of Jesus

2019-04-24 21:05:21 UTC

With your logic

2019-04-24 21:05:33 UTC

crusades, the salem which trials, the spanish inquisition, the slaughter of native americans

2019-04-24 21:06:43 UTC

@CallMeTruckson those historical events do not derive from the teachings of Jesus, nor his life and example, nor the teachings of the Bible

2019-04-24 21:06:56 UTC

You are making a very common mistake based on common assumptions

2019-04-24 21:07:14 UTC

green but they were following his book and the teachings in the same book

2019-04-24 21:07:30 UTC

The crimes committed by Christians occur when Christians go against Jesus teaching and example. The crimes of Islam happen when Muslims follow Mohammads teaching and example

2019-04-24 21:07:41 UTC

green than whats the point?

2019-04-24 21:07:59 UTC

If I give you a set of rules and you do the exact opposite you can't blame me and my rules that you broke

2019-04-24 21:08:00 UTC

lets follow the rules half of the time?

2019-04-24 21:08:17 UTC

green then they werent christians

2019-04-24 21:08:21 UTC

Exactly

2019-04-24 21:08:50 UTC

so if you need to start sinning you just pretend you arent a christian?

2019-04-24 21:09:12 UTC

Do you understand the difference between breaking a law and following a law?

2019-04-24 21:09:40 UTC

The Islamic law is not killing innocent people

2019-04-24 21:09:41 UTC

yes, and the law says to kill them

2019-04-24 21:09:46 UTC

what does the bible say to do to a city that worshipps another god?

2019-04-24 21:09:52 UTC

Jesus commands us not to kill. If a Christian kills he is going against christs teaching.

Muhammad taught To kill. If a Muslim kills he is following Muhammad's teaching.

2019-04-24 21:09:59 UTC

Do you see how those are different?

2019-04-24 21:10:06 UTC

kill everyone burn the city ro the ground and kill all the livestock

2019-04-24 21:10:27 UTC

keep the women who have not known a man for yourselves

2019-04-24 21:10:29 UTC

<:PepeSleep:533791131314552834>

2019-04-24 21:10:30 UTC

@CallMeTruckson old testament does not apply. You need to criticize Jesus and the gospels if you want to criticize Christianity

2019-04-24 21:10:42 UTC

green then why is it there?

2019-04-24 21:11:00 UTC

It is a part of the Bible

2019-04-24 21:11:19 UTC

if you buy a computer manual and it says to fix your pc you need to dance in a circe than kill a bird, would you still use it?

2019-04-24 21:11:36 UTC

@SUPER GAMMING WARLORD MEGA MAN under Islamic law being an unbeliever, being a member of another religion or speaking bad of the prophet are enough to make you not innocent and a target of violence. The only innocent person in Islam is a Muslim.

2019-04-24 21:12:04 UTC

green just like christianity, look at the christchurch murders, that was a christian

2019-04-24 21:12:48 UTC

Isn't speaking bad a form of attack though?

2019-04-24 21:12:50 UTC

what does that teach? if you are ia muslim and trying to be peacfull, dont even bother we will kill you anyway

2019-04-24 21:12:55 UTC

A verbal one not physical

2019-04-24 21:13:15 UTC

Alright, @Deleted User has been warned for '**Duplicated text**'.

2019-04-24 21:13:34 UTC

What? Why did I get a warning for duplicated text?

2019-04-24 21:13:52 UTC

No clue

2019-04-24 21:14:08 UTC

dont spam the same crap too much

2019-04-24 21:14:39 UTC

@CallMeTruckson the Christchurch massacres were not in any way shape or form Christian. It really saddens me people can be that badly confused ๐Ÿ˜“

2019-04-24 21:15:10 UTC

green how do you figure, it was a trump religious zealot, when does it end?

2019-04-24 21:15:48 UTC

@CallMeTruckson I'm sorry I have no idea what you Mean about dancing around the Computer with a bird... ๐Ÿค”

2019-04-24 21:15:57 UTC

green when you are part of a religion, you are responsible for the zealots, stop pretending that the muslims only are

2019-04-24 21:16:57 UTC

green you claim the bible is a book about how we should live our lives, the book has wroing things and miracles that could never happen, like a snake talking or an all powerful god not knwing something

2019-04-24 21:16:58 UTC

You still don't understand?

2019-04-24 21:17:15 UTC

it was a juxtaposition

2019-04-24 21:18:28 UTC

Islam mandates terrorism and attack and war. Christ forbids it. If someone goes directly against what christ teaches you obviously can't blame christ. If someone does what the Quran commands than obviously you can blame the Quran. The Christchurch shooter was politically, not religiously motivated. There is nothing in Christianity or the gospels or the teachings of christ that can be stretched in any way shape or form to supporting or encouraging the Christchurch terrorism.

2019-04-24 21:18:49 UTC

green so does christianity, and those muslims were following the wrong teachings

2019-04-24 21:19:01 UTC

This is actually straight forward and I have explained it very clearly. If you persist in misunderstanding it is a willfull self deception

2019-04-24 21:19:06 UTC

Again

2019-04-24 21:19:26 UTC

I don't know how many times I have repeated it in this channel

2019-04-24 21:19:43 UTC

green, they have the same excuses, those muslims were zealots, all muslims arent responsible, and those verses arent followed anymore

2019-04-24 21:19:56 UTC

@CallMeTruckson the problem is you obviously haven't read the Bible or Quran nor studied the life of Jesus nor Muhammad. You have an opinion but no basis for it.

2019-04-24 21:20:15 UTC

green thats your opinion, i have a bible right in front of me

2019-04-24 21:20:29 UTC

its a false book

2019-04-24 21:20:41 UTC

If you studied the Quran you wouldn't be making such claims

2019-04-24 21:21:01 UTC

@CallMeTruckson "those verses aren't followed anymore" it doesn't work that way in Islam friend. The Quran is the eternal incorruptible word of God. No Muslim is permitted to "not follow" any part of it. Ever.

2019-04-24 21:21:01 UTC

GG @Deleted User, you just advanced to level 6!

2019-04-24 21:21:04 UTC

You are literally just googling to find arguments against islam

2019-04-24 21:21:09 UTC

if you have studied the quran that means you have studied the bible

2019-04-24 21:21:23 UTC

@SUPER GAMMING WARLORD MEGA MAN I do study Quran. And hadith. And the life of Muhammad. And the history of Islam.

2019-04-24 21:21:47 UTC

@CallMeTruckson I have read the Bible cover to cover and have studied it all my life

2019-04-24 21:21:56 UTC

green, actually the newer verses overwrite the old verses

2019-04-24 21:21:57 UTC

Not that I'm an expert. I'm not.

2019-04-24 21:22:17 UTC

green it doesnt take a lifetime to see that all religion is man made

2019-04-24 21:22:21 UTC

@CallMeTruckson yes. And the warlike verses come after the peaceful and tolerant ones. The tolerant verses are abrogated by the jihad verses

2019-04-24 21:22:50 UTC

do you study the quran?

2019-04-24 21:22:53 UTC

@CallMeTruckson even if you believe both Islam and Christianity are false and fake and bullshit that doesn't make them equivalent or the same in content and implications

2019-04-24 21:23:17 UTC

@CallMeTruckson are you asking me? I already said I study Quran, hadith and the life of Muhammad as well as the history of Islam

2019-04-24 21:23:27 UTC

if they are written off eachother and judaism, then yes they are

2019-04-24 21:23:45 UTC

It saddens me to see your confusion

2019-04-24 21:23:54 UTC

but you hold it to a diferent light than christianity

2019-04-24 21:23:56 UTC

I'll add you as friend if you accept I can help you study

2019-04-24 21:24:30 UTC

no thanks

2019-04-24 21:24:49 UTC

Just because Muhammad plagiarized parts of what he knew about Christian and Jewish texts in his region doesn't mean that what he came up with is in any Way similar or the same as Christianity

2019-04-24 21:25:09 UTC

Other than a few of the same characters and vaguely recognizable versions of some stories with key elements changed

2019-04-24 21:25:38 UTC

buddhism and hinduism are similar

2019-04-24 21:25:46 UTC

Wait

2019-04-24 21:26:03 UTC

if hinuism didnt exist, buddhism would be very different

2019-04-24 21:26:05 UTC

@SUPER GAMMING WARLORD MEGA MAN I don't just Google arguments against Islam. I also study and engage in debates with Muslims so I've heard both sides of the arguments.

2019-04-24 21:26:10 UTC

You're claiming an illiterate man living in the desert plagiarized the Bible?

2019-04-24 21:26:17 UTC

Okay that's good to hear

2019-04-24 21:26:34 UTC

@CallMeTruckson Buddhism and Hinduism are much more similar than Islam and Christianity in terms of moral and spiritual implications

2019-04-24 21:26:34 UTC

did you know him? was he illiterate?

2019-04-24 21:26:58 UTC

green except that sprirtuality in the bible is forbidden, back in the day

2019-04-24 21:27:04 UTC

@SUPER GAMMING WARLORD MEGA MAN yes an illiterate man had access to Christian and Jewish people who told him stories that he included in the Quran

2019-04-24 21:27:44 UTC

@CallMeTruckson not sure what you mean about spirituality in the Bible is forbidden back in the day?

2019-04-24 21:27:44 UTC

green back 300 years ago if you mentioned a ghost or spirit you would have been tortured

2019-04-24 21:27:55 UTC

Not sure what you mean

2019-04-24 21:29:00 UTC

@SUPER GAMMING WARLORD MEGA MAN @CallMeTruckson just wanted to say I mean no disrespect at all to any individual or group and am just trying to have a factual discussion of Islam and Christianity as ideologies. I respect other people's right to believe as they will and mean no disrespect. I hope I've been respectful and kept to the points. If not I apologize

2019-04-24 21:29:41 UTC

Same

2019-04-24 21:29:55 UTC

I actually enjoyed talking to you two unlike the rest lol

2019-04-24 21:30:09 UTC

Even though our views are all different

2019-04-24 21:31:51 UTC

@Deleted User what is your view on the Trinity and the whole 1+1+1=3 thing

2019-04-24 21:33:22 UTC

How can God, Jesus and the Holy spirit all be one at the same time

2019-04-24 21:34:08 UTC

1+1+1=1

2019-04-24 21:34:09 UTC

*

2019-04-24 21:34:12 UTC

thats a question i have asked a lot, if god is all powerful why cant he forgive without jesus

2019-04-24 21:34:15 UTC

I just realized what i wrote lmfao

2019-04-24 21:34:56 UTC

And wouldn't it be polytheistic since Jesus is also worshipped

2019-04-24 21:35:24 UTC

lol yep

2019-04-24 21:44:04 UTC

@SUPER GAMMING WARLORD MEGA MAN I enjoy talking to you guys too. Thanks.

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