coops can exist alongside capitalist enterprises, but they aren't capitalist since there is no employee/employer relationship

Group up with 50 workers and make a pact that each one will save a part of its own income to build a cooperative business. Boom, coops inside capitalism

Exactly

Just let the workers do whatever they want with their money

coops do well

the numbers are in their favor iirc

It depends of the coop

Any examples in which countries these companies are very active in?

I remember of a cooperative café which was bankrupt because workers were extremely lazy

northern spain is the goto example

Santander is unironically there

there is a huge coop

but coops have some problems, fx banks aren't very willing to give loans

fx?

Why not? If they're profitable

cant answer, probably something with "who's gonna be responsible"

You could assumingly point to other succesful coop companies right

since there's no owner

whats a fx bank

You can be responsible together

yeah but most companies are small

yeah but I guess banks dont like that

That's the entire idea right, profit together fail together

```whats a fx bank```

I assume they would, more chance to get tour money back than if one guy fails and declared bankrupcy

@ClibtardMario for example, banks

@Timo))) there's probabbly some legality issues with having many people responsible

probably?

Well, then I follow the opinion of the capitalist comrade over here: if it gives profits, why deny loans?

how so?

yes I'm not a bank

Heck, they can actually go to a social credit union instead

I'm neither a lawyer

There are lots out there

Then you can't really make that argument since it seems it wouldn't be an issue

you're right, I don't see why it would be a problem but apparently it is

I'm no bank as I said

I think the issue is that those companies simply don't succeed like the regular companies do

Then it's not a problem

I don't see anything that would dispute it

If you can't go to a bank, you can ask for a loan on social credit unions

@Timo))) I'm having a bit of trouble finding the paper atm, but I am pretty sure coops have much better life-expectancy

At the cost of lower earnings but at a lower failure rate

I'd believe that 100 percent

But for our entire country to run on that system oesnt make sens

well, except for the non-existant owner wages are fine

More sense to allow it in a capitalistic system, which it does

That's why freedom is so good

why doesnt it make sense?

there is litterally more freedom to coops than an enterprise

More sense to allow it to happen than enfore it for everyone

since the decisions are democratic

I want a freedom to choose a coop OR go for myself

Only capitalim provides that

capitalism allows you to avoid capitalism, as in coops

right

Just a daily reminder that 2008 was caused by the Federal Reserve

rip cant find it, so this is a pretty lack-luster argument, but, if you wanna take my word on it: Coops have higher wages and productivity along with lifespan

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@Deleted User don't forget <:porky:315615014751043588> on the FED

The biggest corporations are not coop, that's for sure

you're right there

tbh I love when people blame laissez-faire capitalism for housing crisis and even occupy the wrong place

though I can't tell you why

though mondragon has 75k employees

mon-saint?

@ClibtardMario how can you even blame it on that? we haven't had laissez-faire

@Sampuka Several people did (usually disciples of Paul Krugman, unironically)

And good to know we have a person that knows US economic backgrounds here

I think I would know if laissez-faire was a thing

I mean, one could classify US from 1776 to 1860 as laissez-faire, even though I call it classical liberal

1776-1913 best period ever ngl

don't know enough about the US to talk about that

You can guess enough looking at this:

too grainy to see years but yeh I get you

lemme see a zoomed chart

here you go

damn

tbh bring me back to US 1843

Federal revenue below 1% of the GDP like wtf

Hardly laissez-faire, but yeah early us was pretty good tbh

Outside of the slavery and whatnot

I'll risk myself to say slavery was a fashion of the time

At one point in time that was the case in most parts of the world

unfortunately

hi

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@Deleted User

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How dare you speak, you swarthy jungle monkey. How dare you open your big lipped, rim encrusted, menthol cigarette smelling mouth?
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I hope you decide to sail your grandfathers skip to the Falklands and rape some sheep, as is in the negroes nature. It would still be the whitest pussy you ever had. Give Nigel and Robert a chance for some target practice, your sole use to the world. Argentinians obsession with a few windswept islands in the Atlantic is hilarious but sad. Coincidentally its the only worthwhile contribution Argentina has made to the medical field. The MUH LAS MALVINAS sentiment in the average negro Argentinian is both an early warning sign of autism in children, and early on set Alzheimer's in adults.
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*smacks lips* I cant read

@mmm quality meme

@Dead Account thx

@mmm
The FUCK were you raving intelligibly about?

@BetterReadThanDead#9070 niggers

wuz we kangz n shiet or nah nigguh

Yea, so I'm actually curious about what goes on here.

i love this place already

@hyperborean niggas

Naggis

Nibbas

made in collaboration with the other leftypol discord server https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3SM40yI8ec

Managed to make a video about memes boring as fuck

This is some watchmojo shit

@Shaggy Blanco Thank you for the constructive criticism.

doing shit so couldn't get to the constructive part yet

learn to gain perspective fam, you too could learn anfash and how it works

https://discord.gg/WegQ7zn

I think people should try to understand fascism in general

How it works, why it works and why you think it's bad

I mean white nationalism in itself is bad, but you get falangist types that reject ethno-nationalism.

Fascism is always self-centred.

Is it

I think you could argue that for any system

Is altruism self centred?

They'll tell you thay class-cooperation is proof that it isn't so self centered.

Class-cooperation for what ends? It's own.

Well imagine going into that argument not knowing how fascism has worked in the past.

Okay.

I see militarism and bravado.

Same

Nazism, Italian fascism and falangism feature strict violent hierarchies.

Nothing I want to be apart of.

Mostly based off of pretty arbitrary bullshit.

I agree. It values mythology over theory. It is a lie, in the end.

>muh peoples

I don't even mind the idea of "civic - nationalism" or patriotism

I'm not really a fan of using it to justify an oppressive system

Usually the folks who push it are disingenuous

I suppose it has its uses, and is somewhat natural, but it lacks a wider perspective, which in my opinion also limits it. Having a global perspective is important, especially nowadays, to make good decisions.

When pushed, patriots will retreat to "not my problem", and this is bad.

Hmm

I feel like my country only manages to make things worse for other countries

I like cooperation and international solidarity

I would love if the leftists of the Americas were both constructive and cooperative.

Me too. Capitalists also love patriots because of the 'me first' mentality. It is no coincidence that America is both the biggest capitalist power and the most patriotic.

Nah a lot of Americans hate America

Not the majority.

Fascist governments are the most patriotic

Not hyper capitalistic

Well, Fascists are the just the guard dogs of capitalism.

Despite being enemies of free capitalist countries

In name only. They entrench class and private property harder than anyone.

If Communism wasn't a threat, Fascism wouldn't exist.

Even if you don't want to believe that fascists were buddy buddy with capitalism

Falangism definitely played nice

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3SM40yI8ec

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watchmojo

I haven't watched it

But I know it's shit

Ideological watchmojo

You're watch mojo

You're gay

Let

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@Attila

Indians are Asians, tf?

Whites are aesthetic and pretty varied

Superficially I suppose, but what can ya do?

how is asian female only 70%

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But, ppl think

Only Orientals are Asians

They keep forgetting about the other nations in Asia

Indians are Asians

Russia has territory in Asia (Most of them live in the European side though)

Like, it triggers me

When ppl differentiate India and Asia

But yeah, I find lots of races attractive

Latinas and Oriental females are cool too

Even more mistakes in the chart

Middle-Easterns are fuckin Asian too

Of course some of those countries have territory in Africa

But majority of those nations r ASIANNNNN

@Rayaan I feel you bruh

Bro, if I say the word "Kazakhstan", most ppl will say

"FUCKIN TOWELHEAD SAND-NIGGER LAND, FUCK ISIS!!!!"

Actually, anything with a "stan" at the end

Will scare Americans 😂😂😂😂

Lol

True dat

The Stans are the Soviet Union, Comrade

What about Kekistan?

That aswell

Pakistan, Afghanistan, Fuckinbitchesstan

Cockistan

Bhenchodistan

@Rayaan You Indian?

Lol, I'm Paki

Oh

Khuzestan

Oops

Kurdistan

Are you from a post-soviet republic? Or Russia?

Shitstorm incoming

Ukraine blyat

And Lebanon

Fuck

Ukraine has the finest blondes in all of Europe

Yep

Pakistan is about to be annexed by China soon

I honestly hope so, the way the Paki politicians r fuckin shit up

Just like Ukraine it seems

Pakistan is what I'd call

A 2nd world country

Not everybody is poor, but fuckin 3rd-world politicians here

Every politician in Pakistan wants to stay in office for the longest time

And once the bureaucrats get caught lacking, the military fuckin takes over

Until the general dies

Then the bureaucracy comes back

Pakistani politics r fuckin weird

Compare that to Ukrainian politics. It's an oligarchical shitshow

Corruption everywhere

The current Pakistani prime minister

Which has been in office for over 15 fucking years

Is finally about to be nailed

What's his name?

For hiding money

Nawaz Sharif

Oh yeah that guy

kek

He even got fucking 12 years for tax evasion

How tf

Did he still get in office?

He didn't even serve the 12 years

Thank Capitalism for that

I respect communists and socialists, tbh

I'm a centrist myself, but

Some nations

R fucked up

Like America

Old people literally r dying

And they refuse to go to the hospital

Because

Agreed

Of the high

Health care costs

Like really fucked up

I live in Canada

We have centrist policies here

We have that bureaucratic shit, but atleast ppl live to their 80s

Ppl r happy in Canada, we're multi-cultural, there's no racism, there's no terror attacks

Canada has tons of Iraqis and Syrians, no suicide-bombing has happened yet

So, idk why ppl are scared of them

Canada seems relatively civilized compared to its southern neighbor

Yeah, Canada's a bit expensive... But everybody gets by here