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hello

Olรก

hi

howdy

<:bour:313709044957315082>

Aren't polish nationalists capitalist by essence? ๐Ÿค”

Aren't polish nationalists capitalist by essence? ๐Ÿค”

What are your opinions on Dom Pedro II btw

Can someone explain this to me?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/333746505708208159/Screenshot_1083.png

Business grants are great tbh, even though financial management classes are just better

How so?

@Deleted User That's not true at all

Unemployment is at 4,5%, job creation is hitting new highs, wage growth is boosting

It does

There is payroll employment change in either way, so your argument is null

@Deleted User There is the U-6 which counts anyone who is unemployed, those seeking and not seeking job.

It is at 8%, which is fairly low for the broad scope of the measure

Wage Growth in the United States averaged 6.26 percent from 1960 until 2017

The inflation average of US has been 3.81% since 1960, while wage growth remained at 6.26%. Therefore, real wages increased by roughly 2.50% yearly. Calling it as stagnant, as well as the increasing payroll jobs (no negative balance since 2009 crisis) as bad is just straight ignorance. @Deleted User

In fact, it's worth noting that economic liberalism as a whole promoted prosperity on places like US (until 1913), Brazil (until the end of the Empire), Hong Kong, Singapore, New Zealand, Macau and others.

Chile isn't a prime example of liberalism (widespread cronyism on AFPs) but yes indeed

I live in Brazil and I'll assure you that the lack of economic liberalism failed us

Wrong.

Military government was keynesian and developmentalist

And Temer just assumed following the succession line. Anyone literate in politics knows that.

Rousseff

Here are the criteria:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/333750832652746752/Screenshot_1426.png

He didn't coup anyone.

In fact, he was democratically elected because once Rousseff was elected, he was displayed as VP on the election board

Wrong.

In fact, I'm one of the few guys who read more than MSM

So did Dilma.

He was placed as VP by Dilma herself, and he was displayed on election board.

She wasn't.

She placed Lula da Silva as one of her ministers to block him from prison

(he was our president from 2002 to 2010 and a pretty corrupt one btw)

By knowing of his charges and placing him as a minister to intervene on Justice affairs, that's just plain corruption

Or at least a case worthy of impeachment by power abuse

In either way, since we started to talk about Temer, let's talk about his merits too: inflation fell from 9.5% in Rousseff's end to 3% now (and falling quickly)

Jobless rates is finally falling and GDP growth showed an outstanding performance on Q1

@Arash#4421

lmao he left?

It does

I think they devote a specific page for that, brb

Whats NKVD btw?

Drew the Jew?

is that you?

I have a friendo which we call him Drew the Jew

idk if thats him

tfw after battling against the local tribe you die of common cold at the advanced age of 22 :anprim:

Coops can exist on a capitalist society, really

Group up with 50 workers and make a pact that each one will save a part of its own income to build a cooperative business. Boom, coops inside capitalism

Exactly

Just let the workers do whatever they want with their money

It depends of the coop

I remember of a cooperative cafรฉ which was bankrupt because workers were extremely lazy

Santander is unironically there

fx?

whats a fx bank

```whats a fx bank```

Well, then I follow the opinion of the capitalist comrade over here: if it gives profits, why deny loans?

Heck, they can actually go to a social credit union instead

There are lots out there

Then it's not a problem

If you can't go to a bank, you can ask for a loan on social credit unions

Just a daily reminder that 2008 was caused by the Federal Reserve

@Deleted User don't forget <:porky:315615014751043588> on the FED

tbh I love when people blame laissez-faire capitalism for housing crisis and even occupy the wrong place

mon-saint?

@Sampuka Several people did (usually disciples of Paul Krugman, unironically)

And good to know we have a person that knows US economic backgrounds here

I mean, one could classify US from 1776 to 1860 as laissez-faire, even though I call it classical liberal

1776-1913 best period ever ngl

You can guess enough looking at this:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308995540782284817/333759361908211725/page1-700px-Federal_taxes_by_type.png

lemme see a zoomed chart

here you go

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308995540782284817/333759947139448845/Screenshot_1427.png

tbh bring me back to US 1843

Federal revenue below 1% of the GDP like wtf

I'll risk myself to say slavery was a fashion of the time

The pinnacle of ignorance:

https://www.reddit.com/r/StudentLoans/comments/2dkqrl/200k_student_loans_and_need_advice/

```I will preface this post by stating that coming out of high school...hell even after seven years of college (4 years undergrad, 3 years doctorate of physical therapy)```

>Physical Therapy
```A day later the additional $800 I paid this month went entirely to the interest on loans 18 and 19 (the two biggest).```

>>>>>19 LOANS
```*INCOME - $3460/mo *Rent/Utilities - $1278.43 *Auto Loan/Expenses - $248.70/mo (Loan has 2.5 years left on it) + $264/mo expenses (i.e. fuel, insurance, maintenance) = $512.70/mo *Food - $150/mo *Entertainment - $8/mo (Netflix) *Animal Care - $50/mo *Student Loan Payments Sallie Mae + Private Loans = $427/mo SM + $300/mo Private (7.25 years to go - I am not overly concern of these) = $727/mo *Total Expenses =2726.13 *Income - Expenses = 733.87/mo which at least $500 extra goes toward SM additional payments```

>>>>auto-loan
>>>>spending more than $700 monthly on debt service

this is probably the average profile of an Occupy Wall Street protestor

tbh privatize social security

End with inheritance tax, property tax, petrol tax and all those small taxes, then increase VAT, Income Tax and create a LVT

Russia is dope tbh

IIRC they only have income tax

tfw 2008 crisis knocks down your economy and you give tax breaks, cut spending and privatize companies <:bour:313709044957315082>

That's me x^)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/334078248080375809/Screenshot_1395.png

pls no ban

Minarchist

This was my filteries test

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/334078572329435138/Screenshot_1386.png

Here you go, takes about 10 mins:

check my test later :^)

grow your own tobacco, filthy bourgie

free market capitalism is the best system

prove me wrong

at every moment

Only eternal and ideal thing

Talking about economics -.-

It's the best we can afford, still

reminder that free market transformed Hong Kong and Singapore from shitholes to developed countries

with barely to no foreign aid

USSR didn't do well

USSR built a large bubble which collapsed later on into a depression and hyperinflation

State-guided economies often have a large latency when it needs to answer the changing needs of the population.

Wrong

In fact, thats a funny thing to mention because since the collapse of USSR, Russia is growing extremely fast

@Firefly Free market capitalism did work, specially on high doses

I suppose most of us here don't want the citizens starving

Or just living a miserable living condition

Because capitalism right now is being moved by overspending and government intense regulation (i.e. keynesianism)

I'm calling for a crash within a year or so

@Firefly I blame the last capitalist crises on keynesianism.

@Sampuka Federal Reserve monetary loosening and government deficit spending

Plus some laws enacted by Clinton which increased the governments incentives on housing ownership

@Firefly If people start to starve under the current system, change it to free market capitalism.

Not really @Sampuka , keynesianism has been widely used since the start of the 1970s

Started by the 70s, paused a bit under Reagan (which was still fiscal populist) and then returned full speed

@Firefly Most don't.

If after free market capitalism by X time there are still people out there starving, I'd rather blame FMC

Ironically though, food stamps are actually cheap and are widely recognized as an efficient welfare for FMC systems

Blame the current system.

If it has been used by enough time though

>Non-capitalist
>Free market
hahaha

@Firefly It really depends about which deaths you are blaming.

America isn't FMC

I don't blame capitalism because it is a far too broad of a denomination. So I just attack the specific viewpoint applied

It can, but blaming it is too broad

Capitalism can range from ancap to fully fledged state capitalism

@Firefly If capitalism has been applied by enough time and there are still people suffering under it, then its capitalism fault. But I repeat myself, blame capitalism alone is too broad because then you can be blaming one or more than 10 different systems

So far, I'm blaming keynesianism for 1970s stagflation, 1995-2001 bubble, 2002-2008 bubble and 2009-2017/18 bubble.

@Firefly I just said you can ffs

FED's loosening and government subsidies which ended up in overproduction

Stocks at the time were booming because cheap credit was being unleashed on economy and because government incentives just increased production, at the long-term expense of huge deflations

I like to identify myself as a Bourbon Democrat, for the sake of simplicity

@Firefly ffs you can blame both, but if you are going to blame capitalism, please identify which of the 1289405 kinds of viewpoint

Socialism is only one system, at least according to M-L

So I can only really blame socialism

Show me how then

Btw, heres what a Bourbon Democrat is:
```Bourbon Democrats were promoters of a form of laissez-faire capitalism which included opposition to the protectionism that the Republicans were then advocating as well as fiscal discipline. They represented business interests, generally supporting the goals of banking and railroads but opposed to subsidies for them and were unwilling to protect them from competition. They opposed imperialism and U.S. overseas expansion, fought for the gold standard, and opposed bimetallism and promoted hard and sound money. Strong supporters of reform movements such as the Civil Service Reform and opponents of the corrupt city bosses, Bourbons led the fight against the Tweed Ring.```

100% match with me ngl

Bring back Grover Cleveland by the fucking third time

specially when you apply to local politics

[Talks about Sudanese politics] "I am a conservative"
"But what are you even going to keep?"

Interesting

Now I'll stop to read your mind and play some agar.io, I'm bored af

>Denmark

Is there any danish FDP?

German classical liberal party

@Firefly Ask me shit and tag me, gotta answer later

I don't even know whats the point of neoclassical economics ngl

And just a reminder that Scandinavia was wealthier back in 1950-60

Denmark is just afloat because like all of Scandinavia, they've ended social security and started a system of pensions by capitalization back in the 1990 Crisis

Otherwise, RIP

They had no welfare

IIRC there is GDP, brb

rip, my source is apparently offline

@Sampuka Socdem started off in the early 60s, or by the 1970s

There was some welfare before, yes, but it swelled after social-democrat reforms were implemented

effective reforms started off 40-50 years later tho

Social democracies only work on wealthy countries who implement economic liberalism tbh

And it's not certain that the welfare state will be kept sustainable

Define "imperialism"

Venezuela was straight collectivism, it's different

Government kept seizing foreign property and private property as a whole and spread their tentacles over oil industry, which became the walking stick of venezuelan economy

That's not imperialism though, that's just trade opportunism

They also ended with agriculture because "HURR DURR OIL WILL PAY FOR OUR FOOD"

*they literally burned crops*

*for no reason*

like UAE

who burned crops?

It was the chavist government, they found the miracle of oil and began burning crops because "oil revenue will pay for our food imports, fuck it"

I don't know the exact timeframe

tfw you intend to create a great leap forward and end up creating an economical depression and a death toll of 60 million <:bour:313709044957315082>

```WHY ALL THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM BASED ON CAPITALIZATION IS FADED TO FAILURE.

Some people might think that I am making an anticapitalist and left-wing critique of funded pension systems, as I am criticizing the girl in the eye of the big fallacy of proposing "pension fund capitalism," but I will make a critique within Market logic that usually escapes economists and administrators, the evolution of technological evolution.

CAPITALIZATION systems are based on "good managers", honest, honest (redundant) and efficient that they invest the fortunes they collect in solid companies and with a promising and profitable future in the long term, but even if they have this profile they are doomed to failure!

To better understand, let's trace the profile of a "good manager" of investment funds for retirement and show that this "good manager" is in reality intrinsically a lousy manager!```

>Implying pensions by solidarity are better

๐Ÿค”

tbh anyone who defends social security is either leeching off of it or is a retard

Bonsoir, tovarisch.

<:Thonkeng:325807856228106250>

Choo choo motherfuckers

Crash soon arriving

```@John Kaynard Memes/Marl Karx II this graph is honestly not very telling```

The loan growth is at a 70-month low

And last time it dipped so much it was in 2013, when there was a risk of recession. Now it dipped more and closer to zero

The other two big dips were in 2000-2003 and 2008-2011, both recessionary periods

Esteja ainda mais perplexo ao saber que sou um libertรกrio ๐Ÿ˜„

#IdeiasRadicais

2000-2003 was dot com burst and 2013 had signs of a recession

It was a bubble from 1995-2001 which was centered mainly on tech comps

ye, kek

'point is, recession is arriving

Sรณ lembrando que no governo Temer o desemprego tรก caindo e a inflaรงรฃo sรณ vai pro chรฃo

Adoro

They have 2+ raiding, kek

because of our disgraceful colonists

idk just memeing around

sai fora comunista

is everyone here an unironical commie

wtf cirno

you here

2017-09-28 02:17:31 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

I'm an intellectual, I just joined this server to laugh at stupid people and start debates. I read books and follow a lot of scientifical and political channels. Don't believe me, inferior people hardly ever accept the truth. Respect your superiors, stop barking. Thank you.

2017-09-28 02:17:42 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

I'm an intellectual, I just joined this server to laugh at stupid people and start debates. I read books and follow a lot of scientifical and political channels. Don't believe me, inferior people hardly ever accept the truth. Respect your superiors, stop barking. Thank you.

2017-09-28 02:21:13 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

I'm an intellectual, I just joined this server to laugh at stupid people and start debates. I read books and follow a lot of scientifical and political channels. Don't believe me, inferior people hardly ever accept the truth. Respect your superiors, stop barking. Thank you.

2017-09-28 02:21:44 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Inb4 /pol/ triangulates and tracks down Perfinous' house, hacks his discord and free Centipede

2017-09-28 02:26:13 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

SHIIIT, BANNING USERS ON CC

2017-09-28 02:26:21 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

KEEEEK

2017-09-28 02:38:40 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

HAHAHAHAHA STALLED AT 464 BANS, IM THE LUCKY 88% HAHAHAHAHAHA

2017-09-28 15:09:13 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Hello simpletons. And I say so because unfortunately 99% of the users on this place have an IQ below the acceptable (130) level and are therefore brainlets, NEETs and edgy 25-year old gamers living on their mom's basement. Fortunately, a select group of people (led by me) meet enough of the criteria not to be subjugated by my complex thoughts and mastermind intelligence. Unfortunately, the inferiors have taken control and spread degeneracy across every corner of this chat. For your grace, I am here to save you from yourselves and your miserable brain.

2017-09-28 15:09:49 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Damn theres a brazilian here

2017-09-28 15:09:55 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

^

2017-09-28 15:11:35 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@BacalhauFrito I have a 120 IQ, above national average of 60

2017-09-28 15:12:00 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Not for Brazilians

2017-09-28 15:12:06 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

I bet you eat sopa de macaco

2017-09-28 15:12:17 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Suuuuuree

2017-09-28 15:12:30 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Even worse

2017-09-28 15:12:43 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Portuguese women have mustaches

2017-09-28 15:13:37 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Thats why its shitty, your women have testosterone levels above those of Donald (500 ug/mL)

2017-09-28 15:13:41 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Consider suicide

2017-09-28 15:13:54 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Pleasw

2017-09-28 15:13:58 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

*Please

2017-09-28 15:15:00 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

You have leftist party posts on every fucking avenue

2017-09-28 15:15:28 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

You are probably a Bloco de Esquerda shill

2017-09-28 15:15:50 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

>Centrist

2017-09-28 15:15:56 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

>Bloco de Esquerda

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>Social-Democratas

2017-09-28 15:16:09 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

>PCP

2017-09-28 15:16:12 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Suuuuure

2017-09-28 15:16:39 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

Yea, Antรณnio Costa comes from BdE shit

2017-09-28 15:17:27 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

My sides

2017-09-28 15:17:27 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

mfw your farthest right party is social-democrat

2017-09-28 15:18:46 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

@BacalhauFrito >Not that left leaning
Still left wing, and thats the most right wing party

2017-09-28 15:19:39 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

>Right wing
>Bad at economy

2017-09-28 15:20:02 UTC [The Right Server #chat]  

By right wing you mean PSD which is social democrat

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