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Please educate yourself
You have no idea what you're talking about
the life exp. of cuba is less than 1 year above the US
and their population is much less
That's still more
also demographically they are less diverse
What does diversity have to do with this
that is a demographics issue and it's not even very noticeable
if this is one of your main points it isnt a very good one
do you agree that government regulations and socialism/communism both involve government intervention?
even though they're different
Socialism: social ownership and democratic control of the means of production
Socialism (in Marxism): a mode of production which has superseded capitalism and production is solely for use, the law of value is no longer present, production is coordinated through economic planning, and economic output is distributed based upon contribution
Communism: a state of society where all means of production are commonly owned and economic output is freely distributed, emerging from advancements in the productive forces which means there is material abundance
Marxism: economic/political theory of capitalism and class conflict
Also technically a philosophy
ok well the government has to be involved in order to keep this kind of society from collapsing on itself
do you agree that government involvement is necessary for this
How would it collapse
without government intervention people would not be coordinated
they would end up defaulting back to a capitalist system
capitalist systems are inevitable in societies with no government intervention
they just form
human nature
muh human nature
thats what it is
its not just some talking point
your vision of communism must have government intervention to work
Human nature isn't static, it changes based upon the structure of society
Both on a macro and micro scale
2000 years ago polygamy would be "human nature"
"your vision of communism"
You're constantly saying retarded shit and you're proving that you're uneducated
when i say "you're" I'm obviously talking about the entire ideology
There are no individual/unique visions of communism
human nature, if left alone and without government intervention, tends to default to the "survivalist" attitude, choosing what's best for the individual over the community
this can be seen all over the world
The difference lies with the means, not the ends
I just explained human nature
but do you have evidence to support it
have there been studies
There isn't a specific code of behavior in our DNA
whats the proof
What's the proof that greed is inherent and not influenced by the structure of society
there is behavior encoded into our dna from birth
such as survival instincts
Breathing, eating, and taking a shit
studies have shown that people tend to share personality traits with their parents
even if they are separated
Can you give me proof that humans are greedy from birth
That they are motivated by monetary incentive from birth
here's an example
if you were offered 1 cookie or 2 which would you take
I want real data
actual evidence
Your fucking retarded cookie thing is not real data
zero, I'm on low calorie.
???
hmm i see
Oh
and also capitalism isnt all greed
people go into a business with a passion, not just for the money
you would have to tell Bill Gates, the founder of the modern computer, that he made that computer just to make a profit
Not an argument
This has nothing to do with the point
money is the incentive to keep going
im explaining why your worldview is flawed
``"To look at people in capitalist society and conclude that human nature is egoism, is like looking at people in a factory where pollution is destroying their lungs and saying that it is human nature to cough."``
No you aren't lmao
You have no counter argument
would you go up to bill gates or albert einstein and tell them that what they have created was a product of personal greed?
Einstein was a socialist
he made lots of money in capitalist america
This has nothing to do with the fucking point jesus
answer the question
just answer it
I'm not saying they're only motivated by money
what about steve jobs
You're making up shit
You're going off-topic
but im not, this is perfectly on topic
No it isn't
youre just mad because it conflicts with your worldview
Okay I'm ceasing this discussion
You are a moron
You are incapable of reasoning
I looked at your youtube channel
You sound like a low T soyboy faggot
alright thanks for the ad-hominem
but you keep failing to answer my questions
i just want to converse
You don't even know how to differenciate an insult from adhom
Bye
what a retard
sir i believe those are the same thing
you keep doing it
this doesnt look good for your ideology
i hope you know this
are all people like you?
i mean jesus no wonder communism hasnt taken off
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