Socialism (in Marxism): a mode of production which has superseded capitalism and production is solely for use, the law of value is no longer present, production is coordinated through economic planning, and economic output is distributed based upon contribution

Communism: a state of society where all means of production are commonly owned and economic output is freely distributed, emerging from advancements in the productive forces which means there is material abundance

Marxism: economic/political theory of capitalism and class conflict

Also technically a philosophy

ok well the government has to be involved in order to keep this kind of society from collapsing on itself

do you agree that government involvement is necessary for this

How would it collapse

without government intervention people would not be coordinated

they would end up defaulting back to a capitalist system

capitalist systems are inevitable in societies with no government intervention

they just form

human nature

muh human nature

thats what it is

its not just some talking point

your vision of communism must have government intervention to work

Human nature isn't static, it changes based upon the structure of society

Both on a macro and micro scale

2000 years ago polygamy would be "human nature"

"your vision of communism"

You're constantly saying retarded shit and you're proving that you're uneducated

when i say "you're" I'm obviously talking about the entire ideology

There are no individual/unique visions of communism

human nature, if left alone and without government intervention, tends to default to the "survivalist" attitude, choosing what's best for the individual over the community

this can be seen all over the world

The difference lies with the means, not the ends

I just explained human nature

but do you have evidence to support it

have there been studies

There isn't a specific code of behavior in our DNA

whats the proof

What's the proof that greed is inherent and not influenced by the structure of society

there is behavior encoded into our dna from birth

such as survival instincts

Breathing, eating, and taking a shit

studies have shown that people tend to share personality traits with their parents

even if they are separated

Can you give me proof that humans are greedy from birth

That they are motivated by monetary incentive from birth

here's an example

if you were offered 1 cookie or 2 which would you take