Message from @olev
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leading to food shortages and shorter life spans
regulations are government
socialism is government
communism is government
its all the same effects
of course they're different in the way they're implemented
>shorter life spans
Do you want to tell me why Cuba has a larger life expectancy than the US
Please educate yourself
You have no idea what you're talking about
the life exp. of cuba is less than 1 year above the US
and their population is much less
That's still more
also demographically they are less diverse
What does diversity have to do with this
that is a demographics issue and it's not even very noticeable
if this is one of your main points it isnt a very good one
do you agree that government regulations and socialism/communism both involve government intervention?
even though they're different
Socialism: social ownership and democratic control of the means of production
Socialism (in Marxism): a mode of production which has superseded capitalism and production is solely for use, the law of value is no longer present, production is coordinated through economic planning, and economic output is distributed based upon contribution
Communism: a state of society where all means of production are commonly owned and economic output is freely distributed, emerging from advancements in the productive forces which means there is material abundance
Marxism: economic/political theory of capitalism and class conflict
Also technically a philosophy
ok well the government has to be involved in order to keep this kind of society from collapsing on itself
do you agree that government involvement is necessary for this
How would it collapse
without government intervention people would not be coordinated
they would end up defaulting back to a capitalist system
capitalist systems are inevitable in societies with no government intervention
they just form
human nature
muh human nature
thats what it is
its not just some talking point
your vision of communism must have government intervention to work
Human nature isn't static, it changes based upon the structure of society
Both on a macro and micro scale
2000 years ago polygamy would be "human nature"
"your vision of communism"
You're constantly saying retarded shit and you're proving that you're uneducated