but you have it all wrong here see

all types of government intervention is detrimental

government cant control everything and the things it does control are better off in the peoples' hands

this so-called "free society" promised under communism is itself an oxymoron

you look at venezuela for example as i said before with its regulations on businesses for the "common good"

Regulations aren't socialism holy shit

leading to food shortages and shorter life spans

regulations are government

socialism is government

communism is government

its all the same effects

of course they're different in the way they're implemented

>shorter life spans

Do you want to tell me why Cuba has a larger life expectancy than the US

Please educate yourself

You have no idea what you're talking about

the life exp. of cuba is less than 1 year above the US

and their population is much less

That's still more

also demographically they are less diverse

What does diversity have to do with this

that is a demographics issue and it's not even very noticeable

if this is one of your main points it isnt a very good one

do you agree that government regulations and socialism/communism both involve government intervention?

even though they're different

Socialism: social ownership and democratic control of the means of production

Socialism (in Marxism): a mode of production which has superseded capitalism and production is solely for use, the law of value is no longer present, production is coordinated through economic planning, and economic output is distributed based upon contribution

Communism: a state of society where all means of production are commonly owned and economic output is freely distributed, emerging from advancements in the productive forces which means there is material abundance

Marxism: economic/political theory of capitalism and class conflict

Also technically a philosophy

ok well the government has to be involved in order to keep this kind of society from collapsing on itself

do you agree that government involvement is necessary for this

How would it collapse

without government intervention people would not be coordinated

they would end up defaulting back to a capitalist system

capitalist systems are inevitable in societies with no government intervention

they just form

human nature

muh human nature

thats what it is

its not just some talking point