communism is government

its all the same effects

of course they're different in the way they're implemented

>shorter life spans

Do you want to tell me why Cuba has a larger life expectancy than the US

Please educate yourself

You have no idea what you're talking about

the life exp. of cuba is less than 1 year above the US

and their population is much less

That's still more

also demographically they are less diverse

What does diversity have to do with this

that is a demographics issue and it's not even very noticeable

if this is one of your main points it isnt a very good one

do you agree that government regulations and socialism/communism both involve government intervention?

even though they're different

Socialism: social ownership and democratic control of the means of production

Socialism (in Marxism): a mode of production which has superseded capitalism and production is solely for use, the law of value is no longer present, production is coordinated through economic planning, and economic output is distributed based upon contribution

Communism: a state of society where all means of production are commonly owned and economic output is freely distributed, emerging from advancements in the productive forces which means there is material abundance

Marxism: economic/political theory of capitalism and class conflict

Also technically a philosophy

ok well the government has to be involved in order to keep this kind of society from collapsing on itself

do you agree that government involvement is necessary for this

How would it collapse

without government intervention people would not be coordinated

they would end up defaulting back to a capitalist system

capitalist systems are inevitable in societies with no government intervention

they just form

human nature

muh human nature

thats what it is

its not just some talking point

your vision of communism must have government intervention to work

Human nature isn't static, it changes based upon the structure of society

Both on a macro and micro scale

2000 years ago polygamy would be "human nature"

"your vision of communism"

You're constantly saying retarded shit and you're proving that you're uneducated

when i say "you're" I'm obviously talking about the entire ideology

There are no individual/unique visions of communism

human nature, if left alone and without government intervention, tends to default to the "survivalist" attitude, choosing what's best for the individual over the community