literally I would kill CPC members all day long

we should revive the mongol empire

North Korea is the most redpilled country on the face of the planet

change my mind

the propaganda is probably working really good there

who knows

@Bee did you agree or mostly disagree with the passages sent?

give me a sec

aye

North korea let in jewish bankers so

Mongolian Nazis are the best thing on this planet currently

they wre one of 7 only countries without jewish central banking

DPRK is socialist and due to its autarky its incredibly woke, but they did wrong to abandon Marx-Engels-Lenin 😡

now they let those parasites in

>autarky

relies on coal imports lmao

well they *try*

ok

and is crippled without them

F

```North Korea energy production in relation to population was about same as is in South Korea in 2004–2009. The difference is in the energy import. North Korea is almost self-sufficient in energy. The energy import is very small in North Korea and 86% of primary energy use in South Korea. North Korea's population in 2009 was 23,91 million, and 48,75 million in South Korea```

they are doing some things right with their economy, but with the North being not very evenly endowed with natural resources, they can't do everything right

also I love how when they adopted Juche and abandoned the Marxian planning in mid 1970s, the economy literally refused to grow anymore and began to stagnate. Go. Back. TO. **MARXISM**

so i basically agree with almost everything, except for certain parts
i wouldn't say that the church itself is spirituality,
i think that all people's have a certain spirit which are unique to them, which they must capture and to hold dearly
i think its funny to be considered a materialist, while denying race and other things, but i guess i can't somewhat blame them, since race science wasn't as advanced as today, and also that their ideology is mainly based on economic materialism, such as capitalism itself, but differently to tear down certain hierarchies or "spooks"
fascism isn't merely spiritualism/idealism, but also pragmaticism, a synthesis of spirit/soul, and the material world

North Korean justicialism when

and i think, materialism alone is shallow, but is still important

@Bee Its not that it ignores race, but rather it rallies around the *species-essence* or *species-nature* (gattungswesen) which is the cornerstone of Marx's approach to human beings and which leads to its universalism. Racial differences aside, the foundational disposition and condition of man is universal and common to all of them.

@Xinyue i can sympathize with that, but here's where jews come in lmao. i can show you some passages which might interest you later, but can't access my books since my grandma is sleeping in my room

but i'll sum a little bit of it up

Fascism is soul crushing in my own view because it prevents from the people from coming together and becoming whole as a self-determining, sovereign community. The Marxian people's republic, the proletarian republic, allows the people - the network of individual relationships evolving in space and time - to recalibrate themselves, to harmonise themselves, in a way that a fascist state *claims* it wants but *never allows for.*

hey now

wait

Peron did it

you cuck

And what is this aspect that I describe in vague terms? *Unalienated labour*

the whole point of fascism is the union of the state and the individual

And it consistently fails at this

its building a community so that it would encourage the individual to be the best they can be

look at nazi germany and italy

they were pretty good economically

dude, whats really funny is that what you're describing what communism is is what fascism is, harmony , self determination of peoples lol

italy sucked

They weren't wholesome communities of free, unalienated individuals man

>the people coming together and becoming whole as a self-determining, sovereign community. The Marxian people's republic, the proletarian republic, allows the people - the network of individual relationships evolving in space and time - to recalibrate themselves, to harmonise themselves, in a way that a fascist state claims it wants but never allows for.

they were broken at the foundation

you make it sound like people in nazi germany were held there against their will

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsYRKE2U4R0 this provides some insight on how much the german people actually loved hitler

i can show you some quotes which can probably change your mind @Xinyue later on that is
this is why i want to have lots of beefsteak nazis lol

@Orwell bruh stop shilling that doc lol

Hitler was a faggot

The people were fundamentally divided in Nazi Germany. 200,000 Germans fell victim to the NSDAP (not just killed necessarily, but also including sterilisations, etc) because they couldn't live up to the fitness standards of the Nazi ideology. Further, beyond the common complaints, the labour in Third Reich was *not unalienated* - capitalists still existed, private owners of the major companies and corporations still existed and the workers were still denied their power.

Hitler betrayed the working class

YES

change my mind

Otto Strasser didn't

@Xinyue the state was the mediator, but, i heard that claim, but heard that was mostly during war time, not peace time

Only a proletarian republic of free, unalienated people that together manage the affairs of the republic in a system of public self-government, via workers councils, can be a society where the people are free, unalienated from one another, with wholesome social bonds and a bright future which they together manage side-by-side.

Fascism plays to this rhetoric somewhat,

but the promise given by Fascism is an illusion

are you more of a fan of falangist syndicalism

@Bee then its not that different from social democracy and we know that doesn't deliver the people to the world they want to live in

because there are more leftist types of fascism/3rd positions

@Bee 🏳️‍🌈

i'm just asking

3rd position is in my opinion just a signifier to cucking out to capitalism while playing up socialisty rhetoric :/ sry guys

Justicialism had the best economic model

no

I deny dis

out of all third positionist ideologies

M a r x i s m - L e n i n i s m

@Xinyue They did better than the Soviet Union, change my mind

but what about the falangist
hell, what about the distributists

[ K h r u s h c h e v i t e I d e o l o g y ]

Falangists....idk. They seem more lefty than most fascists

but I consider it insufficient because it still preserves the capitalist class! like almost every form of 3rd position does

right... but they are still considered fascists
fascism is expressed differently in each country its implemented in

I mean, Falangism didn't existed enough to show everything it could do to Spain

3rd position emerged from the acknowledgement that capitalism *as per usual* doesn't work, doesn't work for the benefit of the people, but at the same time from the rejection of socialism and communism. It either cynically put forward the lie, or believes itself the lie, that class collaboration is possible.

@Xinyue it didn't reject socialism, just marxism, so i guess communism and others related

but syndicalism is still on the table

@𝕿𝖔𝖙𝖆𝖑𝖎𝖙𝖆𝖗𝖎𝖆𝖓 𝕲𝖗𝖆𝖓𝖉𝖆𝖉𝖉𝖉𝖞 Agreed, their main historical demonstration was to become co-opted

yeah franco took over

I would liked to see the evolution of Rivera and the Falange, too bad Franco cucked it out

@Bee dude I've read the Falangist "manifesto" (21 point something-or-other?) and it still explicitly recognises the capitalist class as part of its vision, that is not socialism, in socialism there **is no capitalist class**

its better than the abject horror that is La Dottrina del Fascismo, but only so much

depends on the definition
fascism still sees international financier capitalism as a cancer

Embrace

corporate

no

socialism

NO

😩

ffs

yes

YES

socialism = worker ownership of the *bloody* ***MEANS OF PRODUCTION***

Socialism is whatever I say it is

Bapiro goes solipsist

Pinochet was a socialist

ewww

go away