Nor does it dismiss pantheism

A flood did happen though 12k years ago, there are two different theories, the missoulou ice damn breaking, and another theory gaining traction, the comet impact theory

aquinas himself didnt think it was possible to prove by philosophical means that the universe began to exist. for the purposes of his argument it could be eternal

@Deleted User https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBNdNH227j4

Or Panentheism

doesnt matter

Watch that Panik.

i would argue the universe probably created its complexity recursively by interacting with itself

Rather those views of the Universe as eternal and cyclical are earlier found in the Vedas

when aquinas says motion he's talking about change in general

we know that a single electron can interact with itself

not only things changing position

Correct

That's exactly what the Vedas say, Fug

@Hector sure

i suspect even the smallest kernel of the universe can create something infinitely vast through self interaction

@Deleted User watch all his videos. He is the guy that got me to convert.

Good stuff

leonard susskind talks about this as well, the expansion of complexity growing inside black holes

its inevitable and tied to entropy

MMW maybe the vedas had some good ideas

I think you are only thinking of God in the Abrahamic sense

1. we strongly suspect spatial dimensions are curved

Ttyl later for sure this time

it was fun

anyone got an image of black on white vs white on black crime statistics

(string theory assumes the small rolled up dimensions form loops curving in on themselves), and strings can wind around these dimensions

so clearly macroscopic dimensions would have the same basic structure and be cyclic as well

2. time and space are similar, so we could expect time to have a cyclic loop structure as well

3. particles can self interact creating immense complexity

picture the universe wrapping itself in knots interacting with itself across time and space recursively

Wheeler proposed something similar with the one electron universe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-electron_universe

GIVE ME THE 5 PROOFS OF GOD <:REEEE:640033860067000350>

you gotta read

Why does god need five proofs

shouldnt one be enough

obviously if there's five, they're weak and full of holes

"ohh ok you only disproved 4 of the proofs"

theyve all stood unchallenged for 800 years

i challenge them

well except for the argument from motion, that ones stood for 2300 years

1. White People
2. Hitler
3. You can't prove God doesn't exist.
4. Ropes.
5. My mom told me so.

since aristotle

ropes is the most convincing

the argument from motion is literally brainlet though

they make zero sense

inertia isnt a valid counter argument

4 is the worst type of cope

"there needs to be a most perfect being"

"that being is god"

you're doing what young earth christian fundies do with evolution. "oh if evolution is true, why are there still monkeys"

to that i would say, you dont have an objective definition of perfection

and nothing says a maximally perfect being is god... it could be some massive unvierse spanning AI network, it still wouldnt be god

the arguments are way more sophisticated then these caricature internet summaries present them as

hahaha science faggots hahahahahaha

*guffaw*

thats reasonable glamp

you can present them someday

why does one not make sense though? It's basically saying whatever force that caused the big bang, was god

no

implying the big bang exists

it literally doesnt not say that

what caused god then?

thats the caricature

implying we could ever know the truth of the creation of the universe

that woudl be a really silly argument for god

hahahaha fools

argument isnt even about that

i am the truth and the way

the whole point of the argument is to explain the existence of change

believe in me and you shall have eternal life

the existence of change requires an unchanging changer. nothing to do with particles moving around, nothing to do with the universe having a beginning

change doesnt require an unchanging changer

in fact, change doesnt really occur

its not liek the past disappears

he's right, whether in a spiritual realm or through your descendents if you follow the foundations laid down in jesus's teachings your genes will live forever

its a multidimensional topological structure of the universe

time isnt like some slidebook flipping pages

i could argue the universe is in fact unchanging and time is an illusion caused by our perspective

well, firstly i think you're wrong about the physics there. i understand the implications of relativity. but you need to factor in qm. the b theory of time isnt correct

but even if that were true, no sane individual could accept that change is an illusion

we suspect time shoudl be quantized just like space

physics doesnt exist, the shit i take in your yard doesnt fall to the ground because of gravity

prove me wrong <:vargsmug:639999539192922123>

consider loop quantum gravity and spin networks

or consider the spacetime configuration of the universe as a high dimensional hilbert/fock space

time and space are emergent from the structure of the configuration space

<https://motls.blogspot.com/2008/05/presentism-vs-eternalism.html>

"This conclusion means that the spacetime including all the events that have actually happened - and that will happen - cannot be interpreted as a coherent block that obeys unambiguous laws. The "free will" they derive means that the outcome of an experiment done "now" is not a function of things in the past. In this sense, the results of these experiments are "really" decided now. They were not decided in the past."

from first glance of those rules, none of them are strong

or proofs

but yea, even if you were right about the physics. i wouldnt concede that change doesnt exist

nothing is strong, except the light of Odin

thats something a crazy person would say

you forgot the next part

It is not hard to see that both opinions are textbook examples of unfalsifiable statements. How are you supposed to decide that the past doesn't (or didn't) exist? Clearly, this question depends on the definition of the word "exist" in a particular context. This word was not designed to settle similar ill-defined questions.

https://imgur.com/gallery/mnwJULB

my benis rn

yikes

that moabite needs to drink some water

wtf

His leg is about to give birth.

That's an injury

That's healed

Lubos is basically arguing that reality is more complex than their simplistic definitions

it's cramping

which id agree with

and god is the simplest argument there is

it's a muscle cramp

i've got a muscle glamp

it's a muscle scamp <:uwu:639943333807915008>

there exist a borreby island

I'm not even joking

with borrebies

borrebys are the true aryans

the master race

borrebyes are not aryan

all other races exist to serve the whims of the aryan

borrebies are pre aryan

borrebys are the true aryan

that's why I keep saying they are pure europeans

aryans are just albino pajeets

that tried to invade borreby lands

The boys discussing borreby flaws

<:steflol:561214382181318656>

how can you discuss something that doesnt exist

oh nevermind we were just discussing god

there actually exist an island filled with the purest borrebies around

thats beautiful

the true atlantis

Borreby Island is the Aryan urheimat

again

borrebies aren't aryan

theyre superior

they are the original europeans

my favorite by far is the nordocromagnid

it's literally the ideal man

Send pic

im dalofaelid phenotype

I think I'm North Atlantid

I don't really know phenotypes too well though

richard spencer is a nordocromagnid

That's a pic of Spencer 5 years ago

banjod spends a lot of time looking at what he considers handsome men

Spencer's never been that chad

That's spencer

if you post more than 5 photos of men you're gay

I have hundreds

of hundreds of men

wow yea that list picture could literally be spencer

https://tenor.com/view/ellen-page-iam-here-today-because-iam-gay-lgbtq-speech-gay-gif-4920987

the one you're referring to is a trønder

Banjod be like

very similar to anglo saxons

Don't be gay, Ban

frisians are nordocromagnids, trønders (norwegians), danes, north western germany

anglo saxons are

EVERYONE else coping

Do you have a database for women

i have anglo saxon phenotype

The chad ones are brachs, Ban

You are always on about Dols

you will never be this chad

brach and dols?

skulls

these are mixed between faelid and halstatt types

brachylcephalic

or w/e

Dolycephalic

no

they're the middle ground

The alien rear skulled nords

all of these have that skull

Nah, all the chads are brachs

all of them

Leads to wider faces

you're just wrong

Look at them

i hope someday banjod can marry a nordocromagnid

wtf...

I'm already in the land of them

Death Stranding is coming for PC too?

One or two might be hybrid

they're all hybrid, mmw

all of them

that's what make them that

are you sad you're not a nordocromagnid banjod

Ban is hunting for nordic chad husband

I am a nordocromagnid..

but will a nordic chad marry a borreby like ban?

This is the peak of heterosexuality

mix between this

i think my dalo faelid ancestry chumps nordocromagnid

and this

dalo faelid is top tier

too grug

That last guy has too much hair to judge rear head

Piles of hair

My rear head is large

here's a real one

It good?

the ones I post are an inbetween

a real what?

he's borreby?

More and more I come to the realization that Anglos are the master race.

where's @BasedChris when we need him

anglos are mutts of the master race

Ban is just coping

We are obviously the master race

Nords are high forehead dorky aliens.

no

it's not correct either

all the ones I have posted have long skulls fron to back

@TheUserNameofPeace that food looks good.

master race checking in

This is the Nord of 2050

King

real type

mixed

banjod has a lot of these photos

more than i consider healthy

Last one had a car accident

Now he can't see straight

Anglo spec-ops training for next conquest.

he looks weirdly shaped

a nordocromagnid

imagine working out that hard and you end up looking like that

Head is too perfectly domed

She's perfect

Utterly

not perfect

okay, im defintely nordid, a mix i think

Perfect

Ideal facial type