Message from @glamp

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2019-11-09 06:47:10 UTC  

Why does god need five proofs

2019-11-09 06:47:16 UTC  

shouldnt one be enough

2019-11-09 06:47:24 UTC  

obviously if there's five, they're weak and full of holes

2019-11-09 06:47:44 UTC  

"ohh ok you only disproved 4 of the proofs"

2019-11-09 06:48:02 UTC  

theyve all stood unchallenged for 800 years

2019-11-09 06:48:17 UTC  

i challenge them

2019-11-09 06:48:19 UTC  

well except for the argument from motion, that ones stood for 2300 years

2019-11-09 06:48:21 UTC  

1. White People
2. Hitler
3. You can't prove God doesn't exist.
4. Ropes.
5. My mom told me so.

2019-11-09 06:48:22 UTC  

since aristotle

2019-11-09 06:48:32 UTC  

ropes is the most convincing

2019-11-09 06:48:41 UTC  

the argument from motion is literally brainlet though

2019-11-09 06:48:46 UTC  

they make zero sense

2019-11-09 06:49:10 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/642616657495195693/philosophy-of-realism-in-education-11-638.jpg

2019-11-09 06:49:21 UTC  

inertia isnt a valid counter argument

2019-11-09 06:49:49 UTC  

4 is the worst type of cope

2019-11-09 06:50:00 UTC  

"there needs to be a most perfect being"

2019-11-09 06:50:04 UTC  

"that being is god"

2019-11-09 06:50:44 UTC  

you're doing what young earth christian fundies do with evolution. "oh if evolution is true, why are there still monkeys"

2019-11-09 06:50:47 UTC  

to that i would say, you dont have an objective definition of perfection

2019-11-09 06:51:10 UTC  

and nothing says a maximally perfect being is god... it could be some massive unvierse spanning AI network, it still wouldnt be god

2019-11-09 06:51:16 UTC  

the arguments are way more sophisticated then these caricature internet summaries present them as

2019-11-09 06:51:23 UTC  

hahaha science faggots hahahahahaha

2019-11-09 06:51:26 UTC  

*guffaw*

2019-11-09 06:51:30 UTC  

thats reasonable glamp

2019-11-09 06:51:42 UTC  

you can present them someday

2019-11-09 06:51:51 UTC  

why does one not make sense though? It's basically saying whatever force that caused the big bang, was god

2019-11-09 06:52:04 UTC  

no

2019-11-09 06:52:05 UTC  

implying the big bang exists

2019-11-09 06:52:10 UTC  

it literally doesnt not say that

2019-11-09 06:52:12 UTC  

what caused god then?

2019-11-09 06:52:16 UTC  

thats the caricature

2019-11-09 06:52:17 UTC  

implying we could ever know the truth of the creation of the universe

2019-11-09 06:52:18 UTC  

that woudl be a really silly argument for god

2019-11-09 06:52:20 UTC  

hahahaha fools

2019-11-09 06:52:34 UTC  

argument isnt even about that

2019-11-09 06:52:45 UTC  

i am the truth and the way

2019-11-09 06:52:48 UTC  

the whole point of the argument is to explain the existence of change

2019-11-09 06:52:54 UTC  

believe in me and you shall have eternal life

2019-11-09 06:53:20 UTC  

the existence of change requires an unchanging changer. nothing to do with particles moving around, nothing to do with the universe having a beginning

2019-11-09 06:53:47 UTC  

change doesnt require an unchanging changer

2019-11-09 06:53:53 UTC  

in fact, change doesnt really occur