Message from @fuguer
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And it puts forward an eternal universe
but you said we know it has a beginning
but to a theist thats just kicking the can @fuguer
Singularity
neither of you understand the argument from motion cause it has nothing to do with the beginning of the universe
its not a singularity
I know Rose... w/e idea
The mathemetician
Amnesiac universe
etc
That still doesn't account for it
glamp you know that motion is irelevant... inertia is a byproduct of the symmetry of space
Nor does it dismiss pantheism
A flood did happen though 12k years ago, there are two different theories, the missoulou ice damn breaking, and another theory gaining traction, the comet impact theory
aquinas himself didnt think it was possible to prove by philosophical means that the universe began to exist. for the purposes of his argument it could be eternal
Or Panentheism
doesnt matter
Watch that Panik.
Rather those views of the Universe as eternal and cyclical are earlier found in the Vedas
when aquinas says motion he's talking about change in general
we know that a single electron can interact with itself
not only things changing position
Correct
That's exactly what the Vedas say, Fug
@Hector sure
i suspect even the smallest kernel of the universe can create something infinitely vast through self interaction
@Deleted User watch all his videos. He is the guy that got me to convert.
Good stuff
leonard susskind talks about this as well, the expansion of complexity growing inside black holes
its inevitable and tied to entropy
MMW maybe the vedas had some good ideas
I think you are only thinking of God in the Abrahamic sense
1. we strongly suspect spatial dimensions are curved
Ttyl later for sure this time
it was fun
anyone got an image of black on white vs white on black crime statistics
(string theory assumes the small rolled up dimensions form loops curving in on themselves), and strings can wind around these dimensions
so clearly macroscopic dimensions would have the same basic structure and be cyclic as well