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ThisIsChris 2018-11-09 00:42:18

All the science here is social science though!

CarletonJ 2018-11-09 00:43:08

You must add more!

Myndrian 2018-11-15 04:21:20

Anyone read all of Henry Ford’s The international Jew? It’s remarkable

Nathan_Barker 2018-11-15 04:25:29

No, but it's on my list @Myndrian

Myndrian 2018-11-15 04:25:58

I got it on my Pocket and it’s blowing my mind that this was written in 1920 or so with such clarity

Nathan_Barker 2018-11-15 04:28:04

I've had a decent amount of books I've been meaning to get to, but a mix of work and laziness has slowed my progress

Myndrian 2018-11-15 04:29:53

it’s difficult for sure. But if you ever want some salient quotes from it I’ll share. Awesome one liners and the such. The older writers I feel had a better hold on language

Nathan_Barker 2018-11-15 04:33:16

For sure, there's always a noticeable difference in the language and jargon used in older novels from more recent works

VinceChaos 2018-11-15 04:33:57

your "Pocket?" @Myndrian

Myndrian 2018-11-15 04:34:12

It’s an app that saves articles or PDFs files for offline use

Myndrian 2018-11-15 04:34:33

So whenever I’m waiting or hanging out somewhere I can pull up full books I found for free like Macdonalds trilogy or other ones

Nathan_Barker 2018-11-15 04:38:50

I'd also recommend *The Passing of The Great Race* by Madison Grant. I've only found it in PDFs as it's from the 1910s I believe, but if you enjoy eBooks, I'd check it out @Myndrian

Myndrian 2018-11-15 04:39:06

Ok thanks!

Nathan_Barker 2018-11-15 04:40:06

Yep

TV 2018-11-15 16:37:09

Read Martin Luther's The Jews and Their Lies next @Myndrian

TV 2018-11-15 16:39:54

It was written hundreds of years before The International Jew. It's surprisingly funny as well.

Myndrian 2018-11-15 17:06:31

Ok I’ll check it out

Mick 2018-12-02 23:43:54

I reading International Jew rn

Myndrian 2018-12-02 23:44:29

Awesome. Every chapter is gold

Myndrian 2018-12-02 23:44:38

Heavy stuff. It’s just simply fun haha

Verus_SD 2018-12-02 23:44:44

People are reading the culture of critique

Krypto- OH 2018-12-02 23:45:31

The audio version of the International Jew is on VVN forum along with a ton of other audiobooks.

Verus_SD 2018-12-02 23:45:35

It’s disturbing how otherwise intelligent people can act like ostrich’s in respect to the perfidy of Jews

Myndrian 2018-12-02 23:46:09

I love the chapter of him covering the Protocols

Krypto- OH 2018-12-02 23:46:16

VNN. not VVN

Krypto- OH 2018-12-02 23:46:39

Im currently on Chapter 45 and it only gets better.

Mick 2018-12-04 04:16:18

Like 20% in on my kindle. It's really comprehensive and multi-faceted in the way he brings the information to the reader. Fills you in through many angles, perspectives, examples both past and present, etc. I love that Henry Ford is the source too. Clearly a brilliant man that many normie Americans hold in a positive light.

Mick 2018-12-04 04:19:05

By source I meant author but source in the sense that that's who you wanna sight when talking with those close to you. Not some obscure Jew or random article from the 20's. Ford holds some authority in the minds of many whites.

Myndrian 2018-12-04 18:10:33

Ya I usually use Ford when talking to close family members and slowly red pilling. Like jokingly saying he was an Anti Semite

Myndrian 2018-12-04 18:10:39

And going from there

Mick 2018-12-15 06:37:24

Anyone in here interested in irl community building? I have some ideas I'd like to share

Freiheit - CA 2018-12-15 06:38:19

Flip yeah...I'm intrigued.

Mick 2018-12-15 06:39:22

My idea focuses around homeschooling.

Mick 2018-12-15 06:39:43

Deep down, I want a commune, but that's unrealistic for me.

Freiheit - CA 2018-12-15 06:39:54

I'm clueless. I have no children yet.

Mick 2018-12-15 06:40:16

I want to cast a wider net. Something easier to get behind. Higher numbers

Mick 2018-12-15 06:40:30

That's ok. Me neither. No girl either.

Mick 2018-12-15 06:40:45

Adjust your time preference my nibba!

Freiheit - CA 2018-12-15 06:40:56

Same, cool. What's the concept?

Mick 2018-12-15 06:41:27

Enough people you live close enough to to homeschool each other's kids.

Mick 2018-12-15 06:41:44

With the goal of acquiring property and building an actual schoolhouse

Mick 2018-12-15 06:43:01

Whether it's suburban, urban, rural, find a land close enough to build the structure where each and everyone can potentially commute to.

Mick 2018-12-15 06:46:06

It came from me realizing that: I want a family; community; want to have kids educated outside of globohomo with strong values; this necessitates community since homeschooling your kids totally solo makes your kids weird; eventually will need a schoolhouse to further formalize and grow said community

Mick 2018-12-15 06:47:03

it's radical but much easier to get enough people behind vs. a full on commune imo

Freiheit - CA 2018-12-15 06:47:26

Yeah, we need to find a suitable state...Arizona isn't bad, I would rather avoid vaccination, so that will get tricky.

Mick 2018-12-15 06:47:36

physical structures and space is powerful

Mick 2018-12-15 06:48:00

I'm open to location.

Mick 2018-12-15 06:48:09

It's a shareable idea

Mick 2018-12-15 06:48:20

something I want to talk out with interested parties

Mick 2018-12-15 06:48:52

the idea is getting enough folks in the same area to really move forward with it.

Mick 2018-12-15 06:50:01

Combination of reaching out via IE and locally, both tough in differing ways, to form a large enough group.

Mick 2018-12-15 06:50:38

May or may not necessitate relocating for some.

Mick 2018-12-15 06:51:39

It's a tangible project that, for me, is exciting. Building a schoolhouse. Our own institution

Mick 2018-12-15 06:52:21

Even if you're single and broke, you can still offer up sweat equity. Contribute any way you can.

Mick 2018-12-15 06:53:05

Those with families already can get involved with their own kids for the sake of their future kids and/or kids' kids.

Mick 2018-12-15 06:53:54

No one in this movement, and those on the peripheries, are in the same point in life.

Freiheit - CA 2018-12-15 06:54:23

True

Mick 2018-12-15 06:54:36

It won't be about just your own immediate family right now, it's working towards an ideal and getting as many involved as possible.

Mick 2018-12-15 06:55:18

That's the main thrust of my idea, your thoughts?

Mick 2018-12-15 06:55:29

Any ideas you'd like to share?

Freiheit - CA 2018-12-15 06:57:02

There are a lot of home schooling "CoOps", I don't know much about them. Maybe we can search statistics on where the largest homeschool population is...

Mick 2018-12-15 06:58:20

There definitely are. They're just often VERY leftist or fundamentalist Christian. I don't relate to either.

Mick 2018-12-15 06:59:15

I'm fine with faith, and having it in school. I just don't want the school to be a de facto religious program

Freiheit - CA 2018-12-15 06:59:45

The lefties are super "unschooly" and gay...I can handle the Christians but some of the ready made curricula I've seen suuuuuucks.

Freiheit - CA 2018-12-15 06:59:59

Good point I suppose

Mick 2018-12-15 07:00:21

Yeah, bad. I'm less concerned with the curriculum.

Freiheit - CA 2018-12-15 07:00:25

Some poz has been snuck in

Mick 2018-12-15 07:01:02

More concerned with numbers and a physical structure.

Mick 2018-12-15 07:01:58

The more numbers = the more knowledge and experience we have to pull from for teaching methods and the like.

Freiheit - CA 2018-12-15 07:02:12

Yeah, everyday can be career day.

Mick 2018-12-15 07:02:29

But I'm certainly open to shooting the shit so to speak

Freiheit - CA 2018-12-15 07:02:41

I'll ponder on this a bit.

Mick 2018-12-15 07:03:28

I just don't want the idea to get bogged down in people sperging out over curriculum when we live however far apart, have no physical space/structure, etc.

Mick 2018-12-15 07:03:40

"if you build it they will come" sort of thing

Freiheit - CA 2018-12-15 07:03:52

Have you joined the Skills Server?

Mick 2018-12-15 07:03:58

No.

Freiheit - CA 2018-12-15 07:04:04

Get in.

Mick 2018-12-15 07:04:04

I'll look into it.

Freiheit - CA 2018-12-15 07:04:18

Some good people.

Freiheit - CA 2018-12-15 07:04:33

They may have already gone pretty far on what you're after.

Mick 2018-12-15 07:04:36

I'm new. You're the first person I've had a chance to unload my thoughts on the matter on

Freiheit - CA 2018-12-15 07:04:45

Texas has a lot of HS

Mick 2018-12-15 07:29:56

where can i find the skills server? I'm very new to discord as well?

Freiheit - CA 2018-12-15 07:30:57

Contact @ThisIsChris He'll get you in. (Probably tomorrow)

Myndrian 2018-12-16 21:01:02

Ya, I'm interested in your conversation Freiheit and Mick. A lot of ideas will have to be filtered through to really figure out how we are going to survive as whites. It is kind of fashioning a group evolutionary strategy from the ground up, to compete with others groups. Since we are very individualistic as whites I'm sure it will be difficult at first maybe but overall we do need to band together in the physical environment and on stuff like Discord for sure.

BigBadSaxon - ID 2018-12-16 21:17:59

I wouldn't say that whites are individualistic. I think our individualism is a product of the French Revolution and Classical Liberal thought permeating our societies over the last centuries. Individualism is not a natural instinct for peoples who would die in the winter if they didn't work together.

Rabbidsith 2018-12-16 21:19:11

Whites acted on a familial level just a few decades ago.

Myndrian 2018-12-16 21:19:20

You think so? I've heard quite different. That we are individualistic BECAUSE of the Ice Age. That men could only provide for about one wife and their own children, so they tended toward isolation

Rabbidsith 2018-12-16 21:19:25

However, individualism is in our blood.

Rabbidsith 2018-12-16 21:19:58

@Myndrian I tend to agree.

Myndrian 2018-12-16 21:20:16

Ya whatever I've learned I tend to borrow from Kevin Macdonald

Rabbidsith 2018-12-16 21:20:17

We are individuals but we have strong familial ties.

Myndrian 2018-12-16 21:20:35

Yes, but not near as collectivist and herdthink as other cultures in my opinion

Rabbidsith 2018-12-16 21:20:37

That's the greatest "collectivism" that we can have: family.

Rabbidsith 2018-12-16 21:20:49

@Myndrian Herdthink cultures are big ghey.

Rabbidsith 2018-12-16 21:21:05

Groupthink gets you killed in an advanced society. It's dangerous.

Rabbidsith 2018-12-16 21:21:32

Individualism is just a diluted form of heroic virtue.

Rabbidsith 2018-12-16 21:21:50

stripped only to its most intuitive and noncomplex components.

Myndrian 2018-12-16 21:21:50

I totally agree. Most of my life has been doing the opposite or learning that the cookiecutter mold brings a lot of damage to individuals

Rabbidsith 2018-12-16 21:22:08

You don't want as cookiecutter mold.

Rabbidsith 2018-12-16 21:22:23

That's a bad idea for a society. It brings everyone down to the least common denominator.

Rabbidsith 2018-12-16 21:22:43

organization needs to be institutional and on a family level

Rabbidsith 2018-12-16 21:23:12

I think that individualism is why whites make such great institutions.

Rabbidsith 2018-12-16 21:23:22

We have to.

Myndrian 2018-12-16 21:24:05

I agree too. I dont know a lot about it. But from what little I know, if we are the most individualistic people when it comes to scientific revolutions we have many more pathfinders and inventors because they tend to know how to reject common knowledge when needed

Myndrian 2018-12-16 21:24:16

But alas when in group competition we falter for a time

Rabbidsith 2018-12-16 21:24:49

Yes. However, until recently, we had good sportsmanship.

Rabbidsith 2018-12-16 21:24:54

That competition worked for us.

Rabbidsith 2018-12-16 21:25:19

We don't have to become minorities in mindset to survive.

Rabbidsith 2018-12-16 21:25:31

We just have to create institutions that will shield us.

Mick 2018-12-17 04:23:10

We're individualistic but not so much at the expense of others. We take pride in lifting one another up and seeing them do their best. The two, individual and collective, have gone hand-in-hand in our culture.

Mick 2018-12-17 04:25:56

That's my though wrt to institutions. My idea is enough folks willing to contribute time, money, sweat to teaching the next generation. This broad idea is very important to get behind. Teaching and sharing knowledge and values with our kids and literally building physical structures.

Mick 2018-12-17 04:27:15

A 'schoolhouse' idea can be implemented in rural, suburban and even urban environments.

Rabbidsith 2018-12-17 04:48:53

I agree.

Mick 2018-12-17 04:51:04

A weightroom/gym is also a great way to get together. The idea is land, space. Shit, you can build a little spot and fill it with weights and that's how you could start.

Rabbidsith 2018-12-17 04:51:20

IE weightroom ftw

Mick 2018-12-17 04:51:58

Pipedream=commune/wn community. It's what I want but how many people can you reliably get committed to that?

Rabbidsith 2018-12-17 04:52:25

Well. Look at history.

Rabbidsith 2018-12-17 04:52:31

There are tightly knit communities.

Mick 2018-12-17 04:52:36

You can build a schoolhouse and still be engaged in today's society. Still work your desk job. Etc...

Rabbidsith 2018-12-17 04:52:41

You can have as large of a community as you can keep up with.

Mick 2018-12-17 04:53:58

If you can great. It's definitely doable. I'm aiming for a bigger tent.

Mick 2018-12-17 04:59:09

But the schoolhouse could be a gateway to an intentional community. Ideally, I'd want to get enough acreage to allow for all sorts of expansion. More structures, growing of food, cattle, even housing; see, my hearts in a community. I want the initial bar to entry to be lower, though. Schoolhouse seems to fit that bill for me.

Rabbidsith 2018-12-17 04:59:29

Indeed.

Rabbidsith 2018-12-17 04:59:44

However, do keep in mind that such a community is restricted to about 150 people.

Mick 2018-12-17 04:59:46

Even if its not your kids, presently or if you presently have none, you can contribute

Rabbidsith 2018-12-17 05:00:01

by human nature, that's about the max that we can keep up with

Rabbidsith 2018-12-17 05:00:36

That's not a bad thing though. You can have other communities overlap.

Mick 2018-12-17 05:00:43

It could snowball very very quickly to a MUCH larger number

Rabbidsith 2018-12-17 05:00:43

and 150 people feels like a lot more

Mick 2018-12-17 05:00:51

agreed

Rabbidsith 2018-12-17 05:00:53

True and it likely will.

Rabbidsith 2018-12-17 05:01:09

However, 150 people is about as much as you can reasonably keep up with.

Mick 2018-12-17 05:01:18

that's why the schoolhouse is the best approach.

Rabbidsith 2018-12-17 05:01:23

^

Rabbidsith 2018-12-17 05:01:24

agreed

Mick 2018-12-17 05:01:56

Again, strength in numbers. Low bar to entry. But meaningful and lasting impact

Rabbidsith 2018-12-17 05:02:06

agreed

Rabbidsith 2018-12-17 05:02:19

most intelligent thing that I've seen in a while

Mick 2018-12-17 05:02:54

Don't mean to lecture, I just haven't been able to flesh out these ideas until now. New to IE

Mick 2018-12-17 05:03:19

Thanks! I really appreciate it. Just had my thinking cap on for awhile.

Rabbidsith 2018-12-17 05:03:46

np

Rabbidsith 2018-12-17 05:04:31

@Mick I came to a similar conclusion about a week ago. However, I didn't think about the schoolhouse thing.

Mick 2018-12-17 05:59:17

Yeah. Spent some time living in a very back-to-the-land, homesteadified area in the midwest for a couple years. Started with some farm work and then stayed. It's a common theme, but I experienced a from of hyper white flight. Liberal urbanites fled the city and build small homesteads, small businesses, etc. in a small, low-cost living town. They also poz it up. More and more so over time. I got red-pilled there, but wanted some variation of that lifestyle.

Mick 2018-12-17 06:00:58

Eventually, as my desire for family and community developed, and then my awareness of how my kids would then be therefore taught and raised I started to think how I can achieve some balance.

Mick 2018-12-17 06:03:08

Schools. These white-flighter anti-racists often enroll or start up Waldorf schools. I figured, traditionalists should do just that.

Mick 2018-12-17 06:05:29

This area had some money and support from Big Organic in terms of jobs and creating an environment. But the area has grown wuickly since the 90's and seems to quickly asserting itself over the local normie republican population.

Mick 2018-12-17 06:06:33

Won't reveal the exact location to avoid doxxing but maybe in the future I will. Seems relatively safe to do so here

MrBland - VA 2019-01-14 01:33:45

Well guys I know I didn’t interact much (doing school while I listened), but thanks for the discussion. I love our community and enjoy watching it grow.

MrBland - VA 2019-01-14 01:36:09

Lol just noticed voice doesn’t seem to be chatting here, gonna repost in relevant chat if I can find it 😃

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