ALSO there are private trail / fire crews. Nature Conservancy for one.

Yeah but why are they gonna want an 18 year old who hasn't been to college though?
If they do at all?

You strong and don't complain? It's mostly digging and paying attention when you need to.

The west is more on fire every year.

Fire is the only environmental government sector that's growing.

Because there's no choice.

It's war-scale operations and spending. (well, maybe not modern war)

There's an aviation side to it?
That sounds even cooler.

Yes, but no one starts there unless they're a veteran with air experience

🤔

But yes, theoretically if you're elite you can eventually become a smokejumper.

How do you know so much about this?

I did four years in AmeriCorps, which exists laterally and peripherally on the fire world.

And my minor is in fire. Again, I'm too old and big to be a hotshot, but I know this stuff so I can safely do prescribed burns on deer lots and state parks, etc.

I WOULD suggest you do AmeriCorps... but it's very diverse. Even the mostly-white states's programs (maine, vermont) are not-metaphorically gay.

I don't know if you could hide your power level. Also you don't make much money in AmeriCorps.

That's gonna be a yikes from me chief.

Don't blame you. I did my AmeriCorps years before being redpilled.

I couldn't handle it now.

I've got to wake up in the morning and be able to send the "Good morning kings, lets get this bread" tweet.

I can't do that unless I am getting that bread

How much does it make?

You said 20k a season but how long is a season?

20k for 3.5 months if there's a burdensome amount of over time and hazard pay.

With less experience you'll make less per hour. I can't tell you if the physical pain and "hurry up and wait" chaos/monotony is worth it.

And, of course, small, but non-zero chance of injury or death.

It's probably less deadly than driving a semi truck though.

Honestly 20k a month doesn't sound that bad

Oh no, I meant per summer

Yeah my bad

Do I need to go to school for it?

Like a college or something where I have to listen to why I should let black transvestites breastfeed my son and pay them an arm and a leg for it?

No, I know people who have gotten on engine and hand crews without college degrees.

You might need to attend a fire school, which is a skills focused thing (with physical test), depending on what org you're applying to.

Sometimes the agency provides it, sometimes it outsources it.

Would I have to pay for that, and if so how much?

I hate to say "it depends."

Look for "wildland fire red card certifications"

I am getting a ton of like private companies on google too

It's directing me to the usajobs.com website so I think I will check that tomorrow and see if that sheds anymore light on the situation.

Yeah, don't fork over much money.

https://www.reddit.com/r/wildlandfire/

Oh cool

It is reddit-tier, but it might have some info

Minimal soy

Yeah it's got a really good thread

Dude is a year younger than me but the same story.

I'll look into the air force too.

It'll make my parents happy but not my gf, it really do be like that sometimes.

Only you can know what is best for you. Good luck!

Yeah thanks man!

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No rituals or blind acceptance involved. It's very rational, and you will be able to see for yourself how your mind and body influence each other and how you create your own suffering.

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Just got a meeting set up with my recruiter

@Trashboat air force?

Yeah

go army reeeee

jk, what are you looking to do in the air force?

I took their little career quiz thing and in order of best fit
1.Special Forces Operations
2.Facilities Construction and Maintenance
3.Safety Management and Response
4.Flight Operations and Control
5.Munitions

I am thinking either doing structural manufacturing/construction or fire prevention

I think they tell everyone they’ll be a good fit for SOF 😉

I wouldn't doubt it

I don't know how well I'd be under that much pressure though.

I think I could do it, it's just not for me.

if you have any general military questions feel free to dm me

especially if you’re thinking of going reserves

t. army reservist in a career field that LARPs as SOF sometimes

I thought about it, but the thing about the air force is that where the big base is located in is like 1 hour away from my gf so. . .

I'm a civvy, but hey. First in, Last out 👀

That was kind of a big draw.

Idek what that is referring to

civil affairs

I have no idea what that is

working with the civilian population in whatever country we democratize next lol

wait are you talking about what I said?

Yes

I meant I'm just a civilian, and first in, last to leave is the marines

am bantzing

I didn't know that was the marines

I would not do that at all.

I was thinking of doing structural/HVAC/Electrical/Plumbing

Maybe fire prevention

that’s useful 👍 we’ll always need those trades

wish I had a skill like that tbh

Yeah me too, I was gonna go to trade school but this sounds better tbh

For the longest time I wanted to be a Foreign Service Officer. I pretty much aced the test but between then and when I took my interview I realized how cucked the state department was.

I followed the advice in this video and got a great job. I walked in cold with no interview set up too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PFYZde5SPk&t=0s

This is a fantastic discussion about sales, persistence and success. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzaNrEThHDM

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Just took my ASVAB and I scored in the 78th percentile and qualify for basically any job

@Trashboat what branch were you thinking of?

Air force

What civilian world job is your dream job?

Also, with an ASVAB score like that, please tell me you're not going security forces.

Fuck dude idk

Honestly no idea

I like manual jobs

I also like solving problems and having to think

And being outdoors

A combat weatherman perhaps, lol! By manual do you mean just picking things up and putting them down or like a trade?

like a trade