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2017-07-23 01:12:26 UTC

Welcome to the Carpentry channel.
I'm JHawk. I do wood working as a hobby. Some of the things I've made over the years have been anything from bread bowls and spoons to religious shrines. My dad and I used to make spendles and odds and ends doodads when I was little.

2017-07-23 01:29:03 UTC

If you have any questions or insight feel free to share.

2017-07-23 21:14:57 UTC

Here is how I imagined we would progress, initially:

Tools and tool maintenance.

Hand carving:
1- Pocket knife
2-Chisels
3-Mallet

2017-07-23 21:56:31 UTC

To start out with, you will need two items.
1- a blade
2- a sharpening stone

A dull blade does as much damage to the wood you're carving on, as Michael Obama's apendage did to Barry's bunghole.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712446747934721/338801580973228034/ZomboMeme_230720bh17175136.jpg

2017-07-23 21:57:35 UTC

Keep your knife sharp. Just get used to sharpening it before and after you carve.

2017-07-23 21:58:26 UTC

Makes short work of your wooden muse.

2017-07-23 21:59:45 UTC

You will notice a pattern of continued sharpening.

2017-07-23 22:14:17 UTC

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We all have been guilty of neglecting our tools, it happens. We should strive to not let it happen, but in case I does here is how to fix it.
Your general enemy will be rust, as we are dealing with mostly metal objects.

2017-07-23 22:16:48 UTC

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If you run into something like this, a little surface rust. The best way to attack it is:
a little penetrating oil,
and fine sand paper.

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2017-07-23 22:19:09 UTC

Spray the oil onto a rag, wipe down the blade. Let sit for a couple minutes then wipe off any loose deposits of rust.
Take fine sand paper and knock off any remaining rust.

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2017-07-23 22:28:15 UTC

Bro I love liquid wrench

2017-07-23 22:29:08 UTC

>a little rust

2017-07-23 22:29:20 UTC

I'm scared to know what a lot of rust is for you.

2017-07-23 23:26:00 UTC

@Yuma County LOL! Yeah, it could be way worse.
@Deleted User my family runs a small farm. We do a little produce, but mostly we raise cows and sheep. The sheep are raised for both their wool products but also for meat. So I'm also a kinda 'Edward scissor hands' kinda Barbour. LOL

2017-07-23 23:29:34 UTC

But yeah, the blade in question was one of my old blades that I don't really use. It was in a drawer in the barn. So, that one surely was neglected LOL. I figured others could learn from that mistake.

2017-07-23 23:30:24 UTC

Nice bro

2017-07-24 19:23:43 UTC

Hey everyone, nice to be here with you all. I've done some woodwork and have learned most of what I know from my dad. Here are some of the things I have made recently or am still working on. Once they are complete I will post a tutorial on the steps I took to make them.

2017-07-24 19:24:17 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712446747934721/339125658967867392/image.jpg

2017-07-24 19:24:30 UTC

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2017-07-24 19:25:17 UTC

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2017-07-24 19:26:00 UTC

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2017-07-24 19:27:18 UTC

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2017-07-24 19:32:18 UTC

The shelves were a project based around having a place to store my firearms. Once I'm finished with the small white shelf I will probably start with a step by step tutorial on that since it is an easier thing to make than the other pictures.

2017-07-24 19:32:45 UTC

Let me know if anyone has any questions in the mean time, I'm always happy to help.

2017-07-24 19:33:44 UTC

Very very nice

2017-07-24 20:31:51 UTC

Nice hideaway for the rifle man!

2017-07-24 20:43:56 UTC

I had no idea you did this. Looks great.

2017-07-24 21:34:07 UTC

Thanks guys πŸ˜ƒ my dad has tried to teach me a lot over the years. Lucky for me he learned a lot from his dad growing up and passed some of his knowledge on to me.

2017-07-24 21:34:43 UTC

@Jhawk nc Hey bros I'm a carpenter(finish and framing), I specialize in historic preservation/restoration. I'm a member of the Perservation Trades Network, keeping the old ways alive. I use chisels everyday, you should keep your chisels as sharp as your knives. Mora makes a sweet chisel ground knife, it's the best and it's only like 20 buck on amazon.

2017-07-24 23:11:53 UTC

@Jhawk nc right and wrong ways to sharpen a blade?

2017-07-25 00:04:33 UTC

I have an great little trick, if you have a piece of wood that's busted off and you feel you might need to drill a pilot hole in it so it won't split in two while reattaching it but don't have a drill bit. Try this, this piece busted off an old window I "tuned up"

2017-07-25 00:04:35 UTC

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2017-07-25 00:04:46 UTC

Take your nail and blunt the end

2017-07-25 00:05:21 UTC

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2017-07-25 00:05:50 UTC

make it like an old cut nail so it actually cuts the fibers and not seperating them.

2017-07-25 00:06:20 UTC

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2017-07-25 00:06:28 UTC

no splitting

2017-07-25 02:03:54 UTC

Ooo, nice.

2017-07-25 02:28:14 UTC

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2017-07-25 02:29:21 UTC

I set this tile a few days ago. I do a lot of construction as a side job.

2017-07-25 02:47:20 UTC

Sharp!

2017-07-25 03:04:42 UTC

@Preston - MO so pretty. When I buy a house, I'll hire you to tile it lol

2017-07-25 03:05:08 UTC

@Deleted User
There are many ways, and devices to sharpen your blade. I use stones. I found a few old ones at antique shops for cheap. They last for ever. I used to use a file to sharpen various blades. The issue with using a file is it dramatically removes material from your blade. Ive always heard that the edge doesn't hold as well with a file sharpened blade. Stones sharpen your blade, ever so slightly. It takes longer, especially if you neglect to sharpen your knife and allow it to get too dull.
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Now on the stone, everyone has their own opinion as to how you should move the knife along the stone to sharpen it. For example, my father likes a circular motion on his stone. I will, for instance, use a circular motion on the point of my knife. Then I keep the blade pretty flat, angled slightly, as to keep the same edge as before.
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Ultimately you want your knife to have a long happy life, aiding you in your adventures. A stone will extend it's life dramatically, comparatively.

2017-07-25 03:24:56 UTC

@Erika thank you this is my sunroom. Going to do a kitchen backslash soon

2017-07-25 03:35:43 UTC

Post pictures when you're done!

2017-07-25 04:06:29 UTC

Very nice πŸ‘πŸ»

2017-07-25 04:06:55 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712446747934721/339257180307849218/image.jpg

2017-07-25 04:07:10 UTC

I've done a similar tile in my bathroom.

2017-07-25 04:08:41 UTC

So many houses here in Minnesota are like the picture on the left. Outdated and disgusting IMO

2017-07-25 04:09:54 UTC

I wouldn't say its that oudated, early 2000's modeling. Bathrooms change styles so often. My parents did the bathroom last year and already are redoing it againt his year

2017-07-25 04:11:10 UTC

Yeah, it's more the style of leaving the wood finish and not painting it that bothers me

2017-07-25 04:12:47 UTC

why can't wood look like wood?

2017-07-25 04:14:08 UTC

Personal preference really

2017-07-25 04:15:06 UTC

i find it strange that in left pic the door moulding doesnt match the floor moulding

2017-07-25 04:15:16 UTC

just looks wierd

2017-07-25 04:15:27 UTC

Yeah I grew up in Northern California so maybe that influenced my taste a bit

2017-07-25 04:22:36 UTC

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2017-07-25 04:22:45 UTC

Was working on this today and my dad accidentally hit it with his trailer 😦

2017-07-25 04:22:59 UTC

F

2017-07-25 16:02:50 UTC

@Envian my eyes suck. What damages were done? Those marks on the door?
If so since you painted it, that's an easy fix, and it'll still look nice.
Sand it out, then use some wood epox to fill, let dry for a day or so then sand out and paint.

2017-07-25 16:04:11 UTC

Haha with a quick glance at the pic it looked like that tire was parked on top of it

2017-07-25 16:04:11 UTC

Yeah the door will be easy to sand down. I'm debating making it a drawer instead of a door now. The only part that's really damaged is the top part that I stained

2017-07-25 16:05:42 UTC

How bad is it? You could use a wood epox, the stuff I use takes stain, it won't show grain but if it's small scrapes you'll be good

2017-07-25 16:06:09 UTC

I don't have a good angle of it, but it's all pushed in and uneven now. Might just replace the top piece and restain a new one

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2017-07-25 16:06:45 UTC

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2017-07-25 16:06:47 UTC

Yeah you can't really see it. It's fixable though

2017-07-25 16:07:22 UTC

My rule on fixing rotted wood is if 40% is there, we're going to use the wood

2017-07-25 16:08:28 UTC

If you want to stain, you can take wood glue and mix the sawdust in the glue, and use that as your putty

2017-07-25 16:17:22 UTC

The damage to the door is because it got pushed in and doesn't have a handle on it and is a pretty tight fit. So I pried it open with a flat head screwdriver lol. I used an extra board we had lying around for the top of it, so I've got plenty more. I haven't tried that before with sawdust. That's interesting. I'm thinking I will just sand the door down so it fits better and it shouldn't be an issue once I paint it like you said. Not sure what I will do with the top piece yet. I might just cut another piece of that board to size πŸ˜‚

2017-07-25 16:58:58 UTC

I built some steps for my mom's house. We still have to paint them, but I thought I'd show off my handy work. Getting the supports for the stairs right was a pain, but in the end I think I got them level enough.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712446747934721/339451473752752138/KIMG0204.jpg

2017-07-25 19:01:37 UTC

@Der Seeteufel - SD You're not done with the hand rails are you? No spindles, balusters, newel post?
Let me ask you a question, why did you reuse that old timber?
Sorry if I come off as a dick, but I take great pride in my work, and as a finish carpenter I follow behind skippy the butcher almost everyday.

2017-07-25 19:03:46 UTC

@Der Seeteufel - SD I'm not calling you a hack haha. I would like to help you "church" that stair set up.

2017-07-25 19:04:19 UTC

Yeah it's all old wood

2017-07-25 19:06:18 UTC

or I guess not old but stuff that we had in a barn. It's probably stuff left over from a deck that was built 3 or 4 years ago

2017-07-25 19:07:41 UTC

Oh ok. I thought you went and bought new wood and reused this couple pieces that are stained.
Lets talk about that handrail though. At least add a newel post on the end.

2017-07-25 19:09:54 UTC

I could probably do that pretty easily. I don't have many tools though. The only powertools I had for this was a circular saw and a drill.

2017-07-25 19:10:20 UTC

I would have to buy pre-made newel posts

2017-07-25 19:10:23 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712446747934721/339484546925854721/20170118_133351.jpg

2017-07-25 19:10:45 UTC

It's worth it

2017-07-25 19:10:57 UTC

I don't use a lot of power tools

2017-07-25 19:11:04 UTC

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2017-07-25 19:11:14 UTC

That's my bread and butter

2017-07-25 19:16:28 UTC

The guy I work for started doing carpentry before power tools were accessible to everyone. I do tons of work without power tools

2017-07-25 19:18:04 UTC

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2017-07-25 19:18:47 UTC

That stuff and a chisel are all I use everyday

2017-07-28 23:19:30 UTC

Would you guys say carpet or floor tile is better? I have dogs no kids

2017-07-29 01:18:37 UTC

@whitelash1488#3099 Depends on where it's going in the house, and whatever look you're going for.

2017-07-29 01:19:17 UTC

Mhmm

2017-07-29 01:19:31 UTC

What room is it going in?

2017-07-29 01:19:39 UTC

Living room

2017-07-29 01:19:50 UTC

man how about laminate flooring?

2017-07-29 01:22:03 UTC

you can achive a lot of different looks with laminate. It's durable and really easy to install.

2017-07-29 01:22:18 UTC

Good thanks!

2017-07-29 01:22:53 UTC

I have no experience in carpentry and I just moved into my own house

2017-07-29 01:23:08 UTC

laminate is going to be cheaper than tile, and you can probably get it the exact same look.

2017-07-29 01:39:50 UTC

Ignore that cat, but this is a bamboo laminate.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712446747934721/340669718795124736/20170514_165022.jpg

2017-07-29 02:01:20 UTC

You say ignore that cat as if it's not wearing a tie...

2017-07-29 02:04:17 UTC

haha it was Sunday, he was getting ready for church.

2017-07-29 02:34:55 UTC

@whitelash1488#3099 if you're looking to change the look of a room relatively inexpensively, you can add chair rails, picture rails, crown molding, or wainscoting to the walls. Adding 5 1/4in baseboard, if you don't already have it, can make a big difference to a room. And I can teach you scarf joints and mitered coping joints!
Here's a house I added crown, a chair rail and we added I think the baseboard was something like 8inches.

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2017-07-29 02:40:04 UTC

Oh this is vinyl, it looks great too. There are a ton of options for flooring.

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