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Can states not individually vote on immigration now?
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Yeah, but unfortunately, as it is, there's no shortage of good ideas. It's a question of divergent interests and will. They won't allow us to conduct a Czechoslovakia-esque velvet divorce, because everyone else has a parasitic relationship with regard to us, and one group in particular seems to possess a sense of outright malevolence.
But the powers that be will never let that happen of course
@Asatru Artist - MD If only...
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Exactly.
@Nemets That's a feature, not a bug!
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@Nemets Jazzhands and Ethnarch actually did a really awesome deep-dive a while back on the machinations behind the initiation of the constitutional convention, as well as the drafting and ratification: http://fashthenation.com/2018/07/ftn-focus-we-the-people-an-american-coup-detat/
lmao that video of gavin just pulling a sword out in the middle of like 10 cops, wonder what he screamed
@Bjorn - MD LoL, I almost mentioned that. Yeah, Charles Beard's book really dampens sentimentality about the Constitution.
I have yet to read it, but it's on my list.
Ethnarch is the biggest brain. He should be in I.E. He's very straight-laced and proper for TRS contributors.
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN He should be writing for Tucker ๐
Eric Striker is my fave TRS affiliate at this point
@Bjorn - MD Even better. thirteen months until we hear Tucker refer to "the Tyrant Lincoln!"
How long until Tucker supports secession from the Sodom below
@Ald That's a bridge too far.
The filter seems to be Dissident Right > Red Ice > Steve King > Anne Coulter > Tucker >Trump
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Holy crap, dude, I was literally just going to say that, lol.
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN *Chews gum and twirls imaginary hair* Oh, my God... It's like we're, like, the same person and stuff..." *Pops gum*
My open official policy to shill for Calexit. Let the left secede peacefully and have their gay ethnic orgy forever. I'm sure as heck not going to put on the union blue and march to stop them.
Oh, and Calexit means the rest of the US becomes 70% white OVERNIGHT.
@Nemets I see that point. I also see where Identity Dixie is coming from.
It's history now, and we're in the same boat as White North Americans
@Nemets I struggle with that as well. I tend to identify more with the Bloody Kansas types who wanted to prevent the spread of slavery, partially for moral reasons, but also to prevent the spread of the types of people who were usually the slaves. That said, though, by 1861, those kinds of voices were about as prominent among unionists as rational centrists are among Democrats today.
It was a brother war and didn't need to happen. And Reconstruction was also the prototype of USA imperialist foreign occupation and Poz-injection that took place elsewhere since then.
Musonius Rufus is an unapologetic neoConfederate, but I like his big brain take that the American Revolution and Failed War of Southern Independence were both simply cultural continuations of the previous English Civil Wars. Cavaliers vs Roundheads/Puritans.
I obviously agree, though, that it would've been best if it hadn't happened. They should have just followed through with the American Colonization Society in Liberia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Colonization_Society
I always liked revolutionary war history better than Civil War history
@ThisIsChris It's less fraught, that's for sure.
better outfits too
Revolutionary War = brothers war, too ๐
We still exist with national/cultural animosity within the empire.
I'd like to know more about the Revolutionary War. It's overshadowed by the Civil War.
@Bjorn - MD True. And Ethnarch and Beards' takes make me wonder if it was as.... merchantile as WWI & WWII
@Danimal876 let me know if you come up to NY sometime, Revolutionary war is more prevalent here since we don't really have any action from the civil war that happened up here but quite a few interesting things around to see from the revolutionary war
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Not to the same extent, but said interests were FAR more prominent than one would initially believe, and it's NEVER talked about.
@ThisIsChris Yeah, that was one of the great things about growing up in New England. We ate, drank, slept, and lived colonial/revolutionary history.
Washington was the second-wealthiest man in the colonies. Morris was the weathiest, and Jon Hancock was up there as well.
@Bjorn - MD yep, one of my favorite things. That book "Spy on the Devil's Belt" took place near where I grew up
My roots are deeply Confederate and I sympathize that way in spirit but there's the case to be made that it was a rich man's war and poor man's fight for the protraction of slavery which hurt average White families and the development of the South. And it's a real question what the racial outcome in an independent CSA would have been. On the one hand slavery would have bred many more negroes on the land for decades longer but on the other hand Southerners were more racially woke and would have kept them suppressed if not deported all of them, which honestly I question the physical possibility of
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN One really interesting episode to read about is the interactions of the Dutch governor Stuyvesant of New Netherlands (modern-day New York state) with said elements. Suffice to say that there was no love lost...
@Ald Exactly, there's no clear answer.
@Bjorn - MD oh yeah that's neat. we learn a bit about Stuyvesant in school, important figure in the history of the state
A lot of places still have their dutch names, or dutch derived names
Brooklyn for example
@ThisIsChris The title sounds familiar, but I'm not sure that I've read it. I'd really like to see Sleepy Hollow one day, though.
Lond Island, Manhattan
etc
@Bjorn - MD oh yeah I went there once with my family as a kid
@ThisIsChris Yeah, I lived in the city for a few years, and a lot of the Dutch place names still remained. I always liked that...
Great Kills, Catskills, etc.
Also, the Tappan Zee Bridge ๐
@Bjorn - MD You mean the Mario Cuomo bridge?
Do you all believe that the lands of North America can ever be enchanted for us and our blood the way Europe is or will we always essentially be wandering Europeans
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN No <:varg:359010745192808449> ๐ฑ๐บ
@Ald Maybe. Turks are from central Asia not too long ago, and yet Greek Anatolia is considered "Turkey"
New England and the Old south are almost there, I think.
Maybe another Hundred years.
@Ald They already are enchanted. We just need to get our people to stop pussyfooting around and be explicit about whose they are.
Immigration, even European, did not help with a blood and soil ethnogenesis. Right now we might be living the cataclysmic origin story of the American folk who come to be
Who knows
@Ald Nah, I'd say the Southron, the Yankee, and the Amerikaner (midwest) have fulfilled ethnogenesis.
They have dialect, cuisine, political customs, fashion differences, genetic differences.
The Quebecois and Mormon as well.
Fair, I am speaking from a deracinated point of view. I'm just White and my region is just a zone. Anglo-Americana resonates but it's gone from here now
True, lots of "just Whites" caught in the mess.
I know that every era has to have its own symbols, but I really wish that there were a way to somehow use or incorporate the Grand Union Flag:
Maybe if the UK is less messed up than America for a change...
It's just cool, because there's explicit representation of the New World (the stripes) and our cultural and linguistic identity (the canton).
True. I liked the Pre-Trudeau1 Canadian flag
Yeah, that are a couple of guys up there who use it, and Faith Goldy does, too.
Better than the leaf, that's for sure...
The coat of arms symbolizes Scotland, England, Ireland, France, and Canada itself
Ultimately, though, the QQ (Quebec Question) is gonna have to be addressed, so the above flag might have to drop the fleurs de lis, lol.
Quebecois stand far and above in intact organic identity amongst Euro-North Americans
Probably because they speak another language, primarily
Yeah, but their getting drowned in moo-slims.
Yes, the Quebecois is definitely an ethnicity. But I guess the French cuck acorn falls straight down. (see also Swede-descended Minnesotans as Somali-loving as old world Swedes)
...and Haitians, and other sub-Saharans.
Yeah ๐
One of my favorite songs (actually a cover from The Band) is about Acadians
https://youtu.be/tUAO66UZ0-E
Yeah, as 25% face Swede visiting MN anywhere near a major metropolitan area is blackpilling
I used to know a real Acadian girl from Maine, her family lived in Washington County since the Grand Derangement. Had an accent slightly different than most Mainers
Even the small town I visit now
Has brown faces creeping in in greater numbers every year
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Wow. Yeah, I've read about Acadians, but I've yet to encounter one. Fascinating, though.
@Bjorn - MD They're rare, rarer every year. Lots of small cultures out there. Yooper Finns are a favorite of mine as well (from the Upper Peninsula of Michigan)
Huh. Crazy...
Do you know of the disappearing Tangier Island accent?
I hate living in a majority black city
@Ald I did not. I knew about Gullah Islanders, sort of a black analog.
@Bjorn - MD In a decent country, we'd protect these people's future so they can endure or grow.
Every random splinter of native tribes get land and linguistic preservation funding.
It is simultaneously whitepilling to see these little ethnies are extant and blackpilling because they are so fragile and will certainly go culturally extinct if this current order does not first
Agreed. I mean, I don't know about institutionalizing dialects in public schools and whatnot in order to perpetuate them indefinitely, but I think that freedom of association and mercantilist/protectionist/economic nationalist policies would go a long way toward making that a reality.
Yeah (about the fragility point) ๐
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