Message from @Bjorn - MD
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@Nemets Jazzhands and Ethnarch actually did a really awesome deep-dive a while back on the machinations behind the initiation of the constitutional convention, as well as the drafting and ratification: http://fashthenation.com/2018/07/ftn-focus-we-the-people-an-american-coup-detat/
lmao that video of gavin just pulling a sword out in the middle of like 10 cops, wonder what he screamed
@Bjorn - MD LoL, I almost mentioned that. Yeah, Charles Beard's book really dampens sentimentality about the Constitution.
I have yet to read it, but it's on my list.
Ethnarch is the biggest brain. He should be in I.E. He's very straight-laced and proper for TRS contributors.
Eric Striker is my fave TRS affiliate at this point
@Bjorn - MD Even better. thirteen months until we hear Tucker refer to "the Tyrant Lincoln!"
How long until Tucker supports secession from the Sodom below
The filter seems to be Dissident Right > Red Ice > Steve King > Anne Coulter > Tucker >Trump
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Holy crap, dude, I was literally just going to say that, lol.
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN *Chews gum and twirls imaginary hair* Oh, my God... It's like we're, like, the same person and stuff..." *Pops gum*
My open official policy to shill for Calexit. Let the left secede peacefully and have their gay ethnic orgy forever. I'm sure as heck not going to put on the union blue and march to stop them.
Oh, and Calexit means the rest of the US becomes 70% white OVERNIGHT.
@Nemets I see that point. I also see where Identity Dixie is coming from.
It's history now, and we're in the same boat as White North Americans
@Nemets I struggle with that as well. I tend to identify more with the Bloody Kansas types who wanted to prevent the spread of slavery, partially for moral reasons, but also to prevent the spread of the types of people who were usually the slaves. That said, though, by 1861, those kinds of voices were about as prominent among unionists as rational centrists are among Democrats today.
It was a brother war and didn't need to happen. And Reconstruction was also the prototype of USA imperialist foreign occupation and Poz-injection that took place elsewhere since then.
Musonius Rufus is an unapologetic neoConfederate, but I like his big brain take that the American Revolution and Failed War of Southern Independence were both simply cultural continuations of the previous English Civil Wars. Cavaliers vs Roundheads/Puritans.
I obviously agree, though, that it would've been best if it hadn't happened. They should have just followed through with the American Colonization Society in Liberia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Colonization_Society
I always liked revolutionary war history better than Civil War history
better outfits too
Revolutionary War = brothers war, too 😔
We still exist with national/cultural animosity within the empire.
I'd like to know more about the Revolutionary War. It's overshadowed by the Civil War.
@Bjorn - MD True. And Ethnarch and Beards' takes make me wonder if it was as.... merchantile as WWI & WWII
@Danimal876 let me know if you come up to NY sometime, Revolutionary war is more prevalent here since we don't really have any action from the civil war that happened up here but quite a few interesting things around to see from the revolutionary war
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Not to the same extent, but said interests were FAR more prominent than one would initially believe, and it's NEVER talked about.
@ThisIsChris Yeah, that was one of the great things about growing up in New England. We ate, drank, slept, and lived colonial/revolutionary history.
Washington was the second-wealthiest man in the colonies. Morris was the weathiest, and Jon Hancock was up there as well.
@Bjorn - MD yep, one of my favorite things. That book "Spy on the Devil's Belt" took place near where I grew up
My roots are deeply Confederate and I sympathize that way in spirit but there's the case to be made that it was a rich man's war and poor man's fight for the protraction of slavery which hurt average White families and the development of the South. And it's a real question what the racial outcome in an independent CSA would have been. On the one hand slavery would have bred many more negroes on the land for decades longer but on the other hand Southerners were more racially woke and would have kept them suppressed if not deported all of them, which honestly I question the physical possibility of
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN One really interesting episode to read about is the interactions of the Dutch governor Stuyvesant of New Netherlands (modern-day New York state) with said elements. Suffice to say that there was no love lost...
@Bjorn - MD oh yeah that's neat. we learn a bit about Stuyvesant in school, important figure in the history of the state
A lot of places still have their dutch names, or dutch derived names