yes, and i'm not saying often

Like I said, go and look up Damiel Echols

i'm saying when

they had him on Death Row for child murder.

especially because when someone is raped, the first thing they instinctivly do is take a shower

dani, its impossible to be sure about something for 100%

they don't anymore thank God

@Great Sage LIBERATE HONG KONG 'pat pat'

@Onyxryde anyone takes a shower after sex, duh

and they had him convicted because he wore black and listened, was wiccan and listened to heavy metal.

pretty sure when you have a confession, witnesses, and a plethora of evidence there's not much you can do beyond that

Fun Fact I played Darude Sandstorm on recorder for a child and she was hypnotized by my abilities

they were so sure he was guily, death row isn't a light sentence.

guilty*

@cain 🗝🦊 who is she?

My boyfriends little cousin

ahh

She is a legend

the only people who deny anything can be 100% deny reality

@dani(el)
- confession - threatened, tortured, bought
- withness - lie + above
- pleathora of evidence - not 100% reliable

can't *

Im getting a uke soon

Free Helicopter Rides

bc I'm a pretentious hipster

Its was only like five minutes ago we were talking about punishments for Pedo's and CBT.

the problem with witness is false identification

it's just unrealistic with certain situations dude

my voice disconnected

the recorder guy got kicked

rip

lmaoooooooooo

people have been raped in public

with crowds watching

^ I did

@dani(el) so yeah, thats why they dont say in court "innocent" they say "not found guilty" and they use the term "proven guilty without a reasonable doubt" and still we have innocent people in jail and on death row

not with a crowd but it was public

good for you, now back on the topic

O god, please tell me we aren't talking about that woman who had public group sex and then said she was raped because she was embarassed

my voice is still disconnected

uh no

they had the bitch on camera telling them to go harder..

OOMPA LOOMPA DIPPITY DIMINAL EVERY MEXICAN IS A CRIMINAL

O well, thank God

i'm talking there are 6-year-old girls who are gangraped in public

@His Imperial Majesty Prince Bren got the video?

no but there are videos on it, on youtube

a woman was raped for 20 minutes, the whole time she tried to make sure she would remember everythign about the rapist, then falsely identified the wrong man anyway.

there's no justification, no backing out of something like that

the thing is dani its impossible to be actually sure of anything byeond your own existence

she did it on cctv, the stupid woman purgered herself

dude

that's solipsism

its logic

buddy

philosophy isn't applicant to this

it is

OOMPA LOOMPA BIPPY BOUNTRY OVER THE WALL AND BACK TO YOUR COUNTRY

"y-yeah well judge... how can we really be sure of ANYTHING"

"goddamn court dismissed"

100% centanty implies that there is absolutely no other way this could have happened

thats why we use **reasonable doubt**

are you actually retired?

dude

we cant be 100% sure of anything yeah, but suspecting KGB of orcestrating complex plots witha actors to frame a meth addict is not reasonable

you're taking this in a totally different direction

you nigga eric is in teh house

fun fact my voice comes off as masculine so someone thought i was a dude, when i told him i was a girl he thought i was saying i was trans

i-interesting

I'm talking that you've never been accused in court of something you didnt do

I apologize for my hideous laugh

I forgive you

I was

how would you know that lmao

nah its coolio in the poolio

and what does that have to do with anything honestly

@cain 🗝🦊 if you sound likea guy, maybea 14 year old boy

goin back to tangier

again, i'm talking extreme situations with hefty evidence

wit some jordans and a spear

if you weren't filmed molesting a kid, this doesn't apply to you

because if you were you wouldnt be so eager to derp around about death row and 100% centainty

yeah, I also didnt break any traffic rules

there're a whole lot of assumptions in that statement

but what to you know, I was found 100% guilty

and i didn't say people should fucking die for breaking traffic laws LOL

we had cameras, we had withnesses

and again, i wouldn't apply current standards

bullshit

it would

it will for somebody

i wouldn't? hypothetical again

@SadSushiRoll 'pat pat'

?

the court system is broken as fuck as it stands

Why the sudden pats

i said this before

humans are fallible and corruptable

okay so give me justification

for raping a 5-year-old and not dying

we kill 99 child rapist-murdurers

and 1 innocent

that's not what i asked

total 100

ok good night kids im heckin tired

i'm not addressing the current standards

the issue is that youcan be accused of something, but be innocent...that is the issue.

yes, which is why i'm not saying

the current stanards? what the fuck does that even mean?

let courts decide as they stand today

stop changing subjects

i, uh

i'm literally on the same subject

you told me to answer "why should a child rapist live"

and you said

"we kill 99 child rapist-murdurers
and 1 innocent"

my answer: because some people would be found wrongfully guilty and an innocent will die while the rapist if free

oh man dude

@Sarcastro that point is actually a good one

i just told you to disregard current standards

i don't agree with the judicial system as it stands

what i asked WAS

if he serves lifetime or a sentance and new evidence are found we can free him. we cant UNKILL him

omfg

@dani(el) courts can't be perfect. That's why I'm against death penalty

courts CANT be perfect, people CANT be perfect

repeat:

define 'current standards' and 'new standards'

@Sarcastro you won

^^

he definitly wins

@Deleted User yay? do I get reaction emojis?

because he's addressing the court system as it stands

and i'm not trying to argue for the death penalty within this judicial system

anyone here like warsling

define 'current standards' and 'new standards'

You're arguing hypothetical, then.

i've been in and out of court my entire life

judges are easily manipulated, evidence is easily manipulated

well in the hypothetical future standard of behavior we **will not have child rapists** so death penalty will be useless

AGAIN: hypothetical scenario

that's a different scenario, we're discussing this one

we could go back and forth all night making alternate universes

I'm asking for the third time

define 'current standards' and 'new standards'

i like wrastling

@dani(el) you are flailing

i just did half of that

if you wont answer I will ask Mike to shut you off

**NOT AN ARGUMENT**

bro

slow down

anyway

you did not

what is the new system

*Half*

don't get so excited i'm typing dude

@Deleted User mike, shut him down, he's NOT an ARGUMENT

@Sarcastro it's like watching a child fight a lion.

buy gold

i mean obviously cause he's not even addressing what i'm actually saying

just repeating that the court system is flawed which i've admitted to

@Deleted User dude, I've lived in a soviet court system, I know waht judicial hell is

again,

"shut him down" what is that supposed to mean?

i gave the standard of:

there are scenarios with public rape

@Sarcastro you're the lion, fyi

@dani(el) stop repeating my words and tell me how would you make a perfect judge

when the FUCK did i say that?

@Deleted User no, I'm the bull

you're taking everything i'm saying out of context dude

@dani(el) you didnt, thats the point

stop being fallacious

i'm giving you a perfect scenario, not a perfect judicial system

Strong like bull

how do you treat a child being raped in public?

dude, your perfect scenario opens the gate to A LOT of misjudgments

which is why i said

i don't think it should be a common thing

very rare scenarios should it be utilized

the criminal, dude

how do you deal with something like that?

@Sarcastro the horse is already dead. Time to stop beating it.

"shut him down" what is that supposed to mean? @Sarcastro

where everyone around saw it, street cameras picked it up

you've got people literally pulling the guy off the kid

Falsified evidence exists

gey music

christ

@🤔GayZeusCat🤔 its a reference to Stefan Moleux. When someone disagrees with him in his call in show, he shouts at them NOT AN ARGUMENT and after some time asks his assistant Mike to drop the call

oh

@Deleted User I just want this child to see the error in his ways so that he would, possible, become less of a retired

are you gonna answer me dude

@Sarcastro If I had a trophy, it would be yours right now.

cuz you haven't done anything but take what i'm saying out of context and fail to make me see the error of anything i'm proposing

@dani(el) give him a trial, if he can be proven guilty without a reasonable doubt, put him in jail

@Sarcastro give him all the women he needs. he's earned it.

why jail?

would you prefer kindergarden

i'd prefer 6 feet under

wbu?

@Sarcastro I appreciate your logic and reasoning skills.

I'd prefer you being wrongly accused of rape and NOT be put in the ground?

oh man

@Deleted User I tip my fedora my friend

back at it again

wit hte white vans

damn daniel

dani, how the fuck will you reduce the false positive rate to 0?

s i t u a t i o n a l

not an answer

how

that..

was an answer.........

well then your answer is shit and not an argument

like i said dude

only in cases with 100% evidence

Ok, give me an example, I'll give you a counterexample

of the S I T U A T I O N

omg this debate is still going?

its really not going anywhere honestly

he's kind of just taking what i say and throwing it 10 metres to the right and then addressing what i've said

so you cant give an example of a
S I T U A T I O N
I
T
U
A
T
I
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i already did

scroll up

I know, but for this to work I need you to define it again so there will be no confusion.

If you want, just copy

MHHH DADDDYYYYYYYYY

Did someone say situation ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USriZAMR2nA

you only fucking kill people when there is no doubt. i would not go by current standards. surprisingly, i'd set the bar pretty high to murder someone. like i said, public with video evidence is one situation i could think of in which you couldn't really justify anything that happened

*current standards* is a really really blurry term

it really depends on the judge

which is where the fault is

I need an example of a situation where there can be 100% no doubt I raped someone

we will never have perfect judges

like i said, public, you're raping a 6-year-old girl, street cameras have caught it, crowd of people surrounding you

got it

that's pretty unjustifiable

well that's precisely why violent punishments are not acceptable

because judges fuck it up

like i said, hypothetical

I will give you a few examples how you can be framed in it?

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/dec/01/109-women-prosecuted-false-rape-allegations

will you allow me to do that without interupting?

uh

its a chat how can i interrupt you

just wait until I finish the scenarios

no, dude i got it

crowd is paid actors