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There is nobody else who could form a government
The Lib Dems and Labour will agree
And Jo Swinson has said that she wouldn't put Corbyn into no 10
Corbyn will step aside for it
Corbyn is a Brexiteer at heart
He ain't
He won't do it
He is only staying on the fence because his part is Remain
He's been advocating for it for 20 years
I don't care what he's been advocating for - he's a party animal
Nearly every Socialist and Communist party in the country supports leaving
Whatever waffle you want to put forward, we won't be leaving the EU on 31st of October
This is actually the one thing that the radical right and the radical left agree on
He won't step aside, he wants power too much
What happens between now and the general election will be the estalbishment throwing everything + the kitchen sink to sink Boris + the Tories
I still stand by my earlier prediction that we will get a No Deal
Not a hope
The only options are no deal and remain and remain is intolerable
GE is called, Conservatives get a majority, Repeal the Bill, Leave without a deal
Done
The english will not tolerate it
FUck sake
the working class you mean
Conservatives won't go for a no deal
Not openly
And there's no guarantee Conservatives will get a majority
They will in private
It's a minority view in the Conservative parliamentary party, lizard
It's the most likely scenario by far
THe Conservatives are -not- the Brexit party
Even if an election is called boris decides when parliament reconvenes
That's not strictly true, Andy
Boris will have a reason to force it
it'll be either majority Tories or Brexit party
Given that he has being saving Brexit on the 31st no matter what for a while
Brexit party will have half a dozen seats tops
Tory majority or coalition with BP
i'm happy with either
The best predictions for the BXP are giving them 50
That's what all the polling says
Where?
Bullshit
Most are giving them 1 or 2
You can't just go "BXP are polling x, therefore y seats"
the MEP elections had the Brexit party smash every other party
The polling is suggesting a coalition
The very generous polling is saying that they will get around 20% nationally which will translate into around 50 seats
MEP elections are largely proportional representation, jdosser
ik
that depends on how the vote is spread
20% doesn't translate to 50 seats
Roughly
It can
Not even roughly
Their support is also concentrated into the north
It's not
20% is more like 1 seat
You're in for a rude awakening
Tories, in the absence of a pact with BXP, are well short of a majority
well sorry for being optimistic for the future for the first time in 6 fucking years
Blind optomism isn't healthy
Boris is still most people's first choice for PM
The current prediction by the Electoral Calculus is a Conservative majority of 14
With the BXP at 0
14, lol
that's sounding more reasonable
but that's within the margin of error, you realise
i'd take boris over someone like Corbyn
Most rational people would, jdosser
Yes but it is likely
42% isn't "likely"
Most polling is predicting a Conservative Majority
i know people in my own family who would have it the other way @Eccles
The only real question is how big the majority is
14 isn't big enough, really
It could just be enough to repeal that bill blocking a No Deal
And it would be much better then his current situation
nope
of around -40 in Parliament
the tories haven't purged all their wets
14 wouldn't be enough
Most of the vocal ones
he would get more if he entered into a pact with Farage/went for no deal
The others voted with the Government on the bill
They could do it again
of course, we got a act that states that 2/3's of parliament has to consent to being dissolved.
And that isn't going to happen anytime soon
Corbyn has promised to support one after Oct 31st
Fixed term parliament act needs to eithe rgo, or be modified
I imagine it sounded better at the time but it has pretty much caused a political impasse
if there is no confidence then there will be a caretaker PM
Corbyn wants to be that caretaker PM
That would be a dark day for Britain
it needs to be modified to remove the 2/3 majority requirement if the sitting government does not have a majority
and he will do lots of damage in the 14 days
it will be ken clarke or harmen
almost as bad as Corbyn
He could use the whip if his majority is narrow
it would then keep the intention of preventing governments abusing election timing for partisan gain, while preventing an opposition using it to prevent an election when the government is non-funcitoning due to a minority position
He has a majority of like -40
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