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Oh sure.
Totally not left wing at all.
these people need to be taught a very painful lesson
They where the classic model of a gov by the powerful including corp owners
exactly
people seem to think corporate interests don't typicaly overlap gov interests
they USUALLY involve the same groups of people looking to assert power over others
Makes sense considering the whole historical context of Germany
people today can't even relate to the Great Depression in America
a lot of incorrect history surrounding Germany in WW2
Weinmar Germany was orders of magnitude WORSE
**They will** <:hypersmugon:544638648721604608>
Germany in WW2? Try Germany BEFORE WW2
Germany before the Nazis... was why Germany embraced the Nazis.
Shit was insane.
A lot of the ideas where already present
Have you seen europa the last battle?
Including the racial ones
One Word: COMMUNISTS
Wheelbarrows full of money to buy a loaf of bread.
That too
Weinmar was PLAUGED by Communist thugs
and Weinmar gov was too WEAK to do anything about them
WHen hitler promised to clean up the trash and round up the rioters, everyone cheered
Pic related
anyone?
Antifa very cleared stopped the Nazis taking over and didn't in fact contribute to it
yup; although that doesn't really apply as the Communists were an issue BEFORE fascism became a thing
I watched recently Greatest.Events.of.World.War.II.in.HD.Colour.
pretty decent allied version of events
Allies didn't realy fight in germany
By the time they crossed the Rhein, the Germans were in retreat
Each side focus on atrocities against them
The germans didn't want to fight the British or Americans
Na, Germans DESPISED the Soviets
Not initially they might have in the future
Anyway I'm already late, I've gotta go
the jewish bolshveriks had murdered millions of white russians and that same bolsherivms was spreading across europe
night, samaratian
Peace
it wasn't that the germans didn't wANT to fight the Allies it's because they didn't consider the Allies a REAL threat
Oh its 11:00 for me, I'll be back at 18:00
the Russians were the real threat
It's 2020 here
It was that they didn't want to fight the allies
that's propaganda
Hitler saw the british as the same folk
the western front was NEVER a concern for the germans
propaganda lol
said who the allies ?
the jews?
no, said the GERMANS
eh?
sprichst du Deutsch?
no
The germans after the war were brainwashed in to accepting the blame for ww2
Do you know people that grow up behind the Iron Curtain and had parents that lived through during and after?
cease, brony
muh history is more correct than yours because my dad was as mechanic in the war
Virtualy all 'Ossies' (people from East Germany) agree that as a whole, germans didn't want to deal with the Soviets.
yeah, because books are more accurate than the people who LIVED it
welcome to 2019
the modern left claims that Hitler was a white supermacist, this is a common narrative
that's a retarded narrative also
if Hitler was a white supermacist why did he go to war with only white countries?
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in fact he was not white supermacist, he was just against jewish communism
first of all, the term 'white supremiscist' doesn't have the same meaning in Europe compared to the US
the whole narrative that hitler was trying to make a master race is propaganda
its made up
Black immigrants don't have the same subculture as they did and do in the US
irrelevant
well, that's partialy true
people tend to forget that Eugenics was actually an AMERICAN ideal which was very popular before the war
It wasn't something Hitler made up
the jews were responsible for the war to be honest, they created communism and propagandised the west against germany
then they claimed to be the biggest victims of the war
jews didn't create communism; that's ridiculous
N
jews power base was banking and trade
they did, all the leading Bolsheviks were jewish
they were completely OPPOSED to communist ideas
jews were nazis and it was all against the polish
it's all here
Hitler wasnโt a white supremacist, he was an Aryan supremacist.
But that was secondary to him being a nationalist.
bolsheviks weren't 'jews' in any meaningful sense
Goodnyaght everynyan! I am jealous of those with talent. I hope someone will smile at me one day. Draconian laws to stop porn and human trafficking are justified.
The russians were treating the jews terribly then the jews took over and murdered all the leading white people in russia, including the monarchy
the bolshveriks were 100% jews
ALSO bolsheviks just wanted the Czars out of the way
```Nazi Jewmany occupied Poland in 1939. Hitler JEW gang made Nazi JEW HANS FRANK total governor of Poland with his JEW gangs, provinces rulers, high Gestapo, military S.S. etc. Many of these Nazi Jews lived in the luxurious city site JEW GHETTO of the capital city, Warsaw. ALL DURING WWII, AS ALWAYS, like ALL European cities, Warsaw had a luxurious JEW GHETTO section, similar to JEW CENTRAL $$$$ PARK SECTION in New York City, JerUSAlem. By 1943, Jewmany was doomed. Kosher USSR offered secret treacherous TOTAL peace treaty to Nazi Jewmany, giving Jewmany ALL 1941 borders, including the lands of USSR SLAVE ALLY, Poland.```
this is the first paragraph
of one of the rants
in that website I just linked
they didn't nessecarily want communism
The Bolsheviks were not 100% Jews.
the fucker in question wrote **dozens**
@Danacrag GN Dana. I'm starting to think I'm autistic and my parents haven't told me.
The bolsheviks were made up of tonnes of different people, some of them Jews.
<:GWcentrallGoodNightBOYE:395626850887532544>
correct, the bolsheviks that were Jews were opposed to communism. that's not why they fought to get rid of the Czar
but once the old power structure was torn down, lenin, stalin and company filled the power vacuum
all of the leading Bolsheviks were jewish and the communism revolution in spain was jewish led as well
jews were in control of the communism organisations across europe
what part of the above statement don't you understand?
what part of you are incorrect don't you understand?
the impetus of the Bolshevik revolution was NOT communism
it was 100%
no, that is PROPAGANDA
lol
so there was no threat to white people form jews in europe?
in fact, many bolsheiviks were in favor of democracy
is that just propaganda?
the revolution devours it's own
this is where the phrase comes from
โBefore 1917 there were 300,000 Zionists in Russia, while the main Jewish socialist organization, the Bund, had 33,000 members. Only 958 Jews had joined the Bolshevik Party before 1917; thousands joined after the Revolution.โ
-Overy, Richard (2004). The Dictators: Hitler's Germany, Stalin's Russia. W. W. Norton Company, Inc. ISBN 9780141912240.
So no, overwhelmingly, the Jews didnโt support the Russian revolution.
which is consistent with what i have been saying
They just glommed onto it after the fact.
all the leading Bolsheviks were Jewish, the ones that ordered the murder of millions of white russians
they just have a nice way of trying to hide the truth
that jews were responsible
again, you don't understand the difference betweeen intent and result
of COURSE the jews are going to be in favor of displacing the old and putting thei own in it's place
the Soviets want everyone to beleive that EVERYONE was in support of the Socialists who seized power
the point is that the reason Hitler was going to war against russia was not because of white supermacy or germany supermacy it was because they were fighting against jewish communism and tyranny that was murdering christians
but this was FAR from the truth
A thing happened.
The thing was caused by non Jews.
Some Jews benefitted.
SimonTV: See! Jewish conspiracy!
Everyone else: ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
amazing how jews get off without any responsibilty
Hilter only fought the Soviets because he underestimated the amount of oil he would require
its all explained in the documentary that I posted
Who?
Who is getting off without responsibility?
Give me names.
Give me the names of the socialists who you think arenโt being held responsible.
I've seen the documentary... and MANY documentaries in both english and german as well as read many books over 30 yrs or so
my statements don't just come from a single source with a bias that is all one way or the other
I doubt you have seen it
Don't take one documentary and use that to frame your entire perspective
so you accuse me of what you are doing
you are dense, you know that?
only you know the true history, you must be so happy with yourself
never made that claim; strawman
did you watch the greatest story never told?
however a perspective informed by BOTH sides from MULTIPLE sources is more balanced that a perspective from a single perspective
yes, i have seen that one a few times
oh please, how can one not know the allied side of ww2, it has been bombarded in to westerners from the very young age
I am pointing out documenteries that show the german side to the story
funny how few people realize that the DNC was rigged by the Mob BEFORE
Truman
then you claim oh you musn't get your information from on place, do you understand how stupid you sound?
I DO know the allied side of wwii
everyone does
but the allied side is exaggerated
*Yawn*
both sides focus on their own atrocities as i said earlier
not always
did you watch hellstorm ?
also, there is a SIGNIGIFICANT difference between books that were written pre-internet and afterwards
for example, William Shreiber's "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" is far more thourough than most historical texts written since the fall of the the Soviet Union
have you read "the bad war" ?
what about "The Myth of German Villainy"?
Heard of that one. No, haven't read it. If i remember right, i thought about it but the Foreward was looking to support an argument rather than reveiw the historical events
The Myth of German Villainy is a decent book
i think it lacks sources though
most books these days do
short form books realy
design for the masses
i mean, i'm from the days when if you cited wikipedia, your paper was dismissed out of hand
if wikipedia is valid, THEY have sources somewhere. track these down and cite them AND their sources
wikipedia is a joke these days
always was in my view
There are a lot of wikipedia sources that are literally just advertisement sites now
The older citation domains get bought up and replaced
there was a period when it was ok, but hte marxist moved in and re-wrote all the articles
I still have an old article on the peasants revolt saved
well, the academic community as a whole suffers from the problem that those papers that are POPULAR receive the most citations
it was rewritten and framed from a marxist perspective
and the more citations a paper has, the more credibility it is give
so it's a feed-back loop
it was essentially an anti-tax protest but the wikipedia article now states it was an early example of marxist revolution lol
yea the sources they accept are left wing media sites
which use wikipedia as their source
that drives me crazy when people go back and spin events to suit a particular narrativ
i guess that is history in a nut shell
the trick to learning history is learn which perspective the person who wrote it had and interpret it with a grain of salt.
well, there is a difference between documenting an event and interpreting an event
there is a fine line
from one side they were attacked, from the other they were attacked
used to be because it took TIME and MONEY to compile the history, there were MUCH fewer sources and thus they were held to a higher standard
when less people controlled the narrative it was easier to control
today, the internet devalues things like truth and art
its easier to read history as objectively as possible. the treaty of versaille crippled germany to the point of desperation
and you basically get what happens in the Dark Knight
it was HARDER to control actually
dont salt the earth
you have to go back to the 1800s to understand ww1 and 2
the abandoned child will burn his village to feel its warmth, etc
how is it harder to control?
that is why the church and monarchy didn't like the printing press
because if you are a gate-keeper and everyone has to come to you for information, all eyes are on you making it VERY hard for you to lie and get away with it continually
they didn't want to lose control over the narrative
now we see the same thing today
theres also arguments of authority
the mainstream media is losing control of the narrative
most of what we know is an argument of authority
I think it is very easy to lie not hard
i have no idea if the earth is flat, but scientists tell me it isnt
so i believe them
one thing i came to realize is that people are stupid and believe anything
authorities are important. otherwise there is no true nor is there any facts
i have ways i guess of proving it logically, but im not bothered enough
the moon is made of cheese
prove me wrong
authorites need to be held accountable
you can't just let anyone pose as an engineer and build a bridge
you'll get people killed
the marxists have it right that a lot of things are just interpretation
but they go so far as to say theres no objectionable proof to anything
and that value is constructed
they are half righ
value is subjective
no it ist
Worth and value are distinct.
intepretation IS Important but it's not AS important as WHAT Is being interpreted
a human is more valuable than a spec of dust
i take the austrian economics perspective
A human has universal value but variable worth.
the sun is more important ot our survival than my left sock
value is subjective thougb
more valuable
Worth is the sum of a man's contributions and character.
Value is what a man is born with by virtue of being a man
if that spec of dust is the new power source that will save the planet from an asteroid impact?
yes, unalienable rights
subjective value
natural rights
@ManAnimal Extreme and extraneous.
cringe
rights aren't FREE
they require constant vigilance or you will LOSE them
rights are inherent in the human experience they do not come from government
Creating a ludicrous what-if is not proper rhetorical fodder for securing victory, Manimal.
treating rights as natural per Locke encourages entitlement and opens the door to declaring ANYTHING even what you cannot pay for 'a right'
no it doesn't
The both of you are right but Manimal, you're ironically forgetting the reason why rights require vigilance.
Rights are a function of the agreement a government makes with it's people
You mistakenly leave out the transcendent nature of rights
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