i have ways i guess of proving it logically, but im not bothered enough

the moon is made of cheese

prove me wrong

authorites need to be held accountable

you can't just let anyone pose as an engineer and build a bridge

you'll get people killed

the marxists have it right that a lot of things are just interpretation

but they go so far as to say theres no objectionable proof to anything

and that value is constructed

they are half righ

value is subjective

no it ist

Worth and value are distinct.

intepretation IS Important but it's not AS important as WHAT Is being interpreted

a human is more valuable than a spec of dust

i take the austrian economics perspective

A human has universal value but variable worth.

the sun is more important ot our survival than my left sock

value is subjective thougb

more valuable

Worth is the sum of a man's contributions and character.

Value is what a man is born with by virtue of being a man

if that spec of dust is the new power source that will save the planet from an asteroid impact?

yes, unalienable rights

subjective value

natural rights

@ManAnimal Extreme and extraneous.

cringe

rights aren't FREE

they require constant vigilance or you will LOSE them

rights are inherent in the human experience they do not come from government

Creating a ludicrous what-if is not proper rhetorical fodder for securing victory, Manimal.

treating rights as natural per Locke encourages entitlement and opens the door to declaring ANYTHING even what you cannot pay for 'a right'

no it doesn't

The both of you are right but Manimal, you're ironically forgetting the reason why rights require vigilance.

Rights are a function of the agreement a government makes with it's people

You mistakenly leave out the transcendent nature of rights

and the ability to ENFORCE them

Rights can be suppressed by never taken.

no, rights exist irrespective of government

We always have rights even if we aren't experiencing them.