Message from @ManAnimal
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Worth and value are distinct.
intepretation IS Important but it's not AS important as WHAT Is being interpreted
a human is more valuable than a spec of dust
i take the austrian economics perspective
A human has universal value but variable worth.
the sun is more important ot our survival than my left sock
value is subjective thougb
more valuable
Worth is the sum of a man's contributions and character.
Value is what a man is born with by virtue of being a man
if that spec of dust is the new power source that will save the planet from an asteroid impact?
yes, unalienable rights
subjective value
natural rights
@ManAnimal Extreme and extraneous.
cringe
rights aren't FREE
they require constant vigilance or you will LOSE them
rights are inherent in the human experience they do not come from government
Creating a ludicrous what-if is not proper rhetorical fodder for securing victory, Manimal.
treating rights as natural per Locke encourages entitlement and opens the door to declaring ANYTHING even what you cannot pay for 'a right'
no it doesn't
The both of you are right but Manimal, you're ironically forgetting the reason why rights require vigilance.
Rights are a function of the agreement a government makes with it's people
You mistakenly leave out the transcendent nature of rights
and the ability to ENFORCE them
Rights can be suppressed by never taken.
no, rights exist irrespective of government
We always have rights even if we aren't experiencing them.
yeah, your notion is the reason we have arrived at this juncture
The onus is on the oppressor.
Not the oppressed.
something GIVEN has no value
Humanity?
The line is something given freely.*
but these are basic rights, the right to self ownership, the right to own property, the right to do business who you please, not a right to a free house etc
and if you have 10 people and 9 apples, even EATING becomes a privledge
reality is PRIMARY to human perception
value is subjective, one man might value a painting at $200 while another $10000
however, treating rights as natural, spits in the face of that truth
reality is primary