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2018-08-28 19:20:44 UTC

No

2018-08-28 19:21:12 UTC

Most white immigrants, besides Northwestern europeans, vote Democrat

2018-08-28 19:21:18 UTC

No one that has heritage outside of Cornwall should be considered American

2018-08-28 19:22:14 UTC

Anyways, let's get back on track

2018-08-28 19:22:46 UTC

Let's say Trump does an Executive Order along these lines

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/484080422221905940/DkHNrm4VAAE_YDu.png

2018-08-28 19:23:13 UTC

It's a legislative proposal but I think Trump can say something similar to this

2018-08-28 19:23:16 UTC

Got it from Button

2018-08-28 19:23:24 UTC

@ThatRightWingFish I don't know tbh. He probably falls into the crowd of hating boomers, wanting to end immigration, etc

2018-08-28 19:23:36 UTC

Inevitably, this will have to go through the Supreme Court

2018-08-28 19:23:51 UTC

Which I can agree with. But tbh, I think thats only the first step

2018-08-28 19:24:54 UTC

Their interpretations of "Social Media" are incredibly massive, including WebMD and Amazon.com as "social media". They are also incredibly broad on free speech, and have described social media as the modern public forum unanimously in a previous ruling.

2018-08-28 19:26:29 UTC

tbh, this guy should have been POTUS

2018-08-28 19:27:20 UTC

"Even with these assumptions, the statute here enacts a prohibition
unprecedented in the scope of First Amendment speech it burdens.
Social media allows users to gain access to information and communicate
with one another on any subject that might come to mind.
With one broad stroke, North Carolina bars access to what for many
are the principal sources for knowing current events, checking ads for
employment, **speaking and listening in the modern public square**,
and otherwise exploring the vast realms of human thought and
knowledge. Foreclosing access to social media altogether thus prevents
users from engaging in the legitimate exercise of First Amendment
rights. Even convicted criminalsโ€”and in some instances especially
convicted criminalsโ€”might receive legitimate benefits from
these means for access to the world of ideas, particularly if they seek
to reform and to pursue lawful and rewarding lives. "
-Packingham v. North Carolina

2018-08-28 19:27:57 UTC

I suspect it would take a while for the court to get to this theoretical EO, but in the end they would rule in our favor

2018-08-28 21:26:43 UTC

Wow, Trump really is Patton's reincarnation

2018-08-28 21:27:14 UTC

sounds like fake news

2018-08-28 21:27:50 UTC

wow

2018-08-28 21:28:15 UTC

Seems that this is actually credible

2018-08-28 21:28:21 UTC

It's scarcely being reported though

2018-08-28 21:28:37 UTC

but it has the appearance of credibility due to the amount of sources restating the claim

2018-08-28 21:30:19 UTC

"โ€œI remember Pearl Harbor,โ€ Trump told Abe at a meeting in June, The Washington Post reported Tuesday. "

2018-08-28 21:31:00 UTC

"During a tense meeting at the White House in June, President Trump caught Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe off guard with a pointed remark.

โ€œI remember Pearl Harbor,โ€ the president said, referring to the surprise attack that propelled the United States into World War II.

Trump then launched into a blistering critique of Japanโ€™s economic policies, according to people familiar with the conversation. He railed against the U.S. trade deficit with Japan and urged Abe to negotiate a bilateral trade deal that is more favorable to U.S. exporters of beef and automobiles."

@ThatRightWingFish where did you find this?

2018-08-28 21:33:10 UTC

We allow any whites

2018-08-28 21:33:16 UTC

america should be for all whites

2018-08-28 21:33:29 UTC

obviously we shouldn't allow leftists in

2018-08-28 21:45:33 UTC

K

2018-08-29 00:31:04 UTC

this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/484158007731814442/unknown.png

2018-08-29 00:31:27 UTC

@FLanon Why did Trump decide to renew the TPS program

2018-08-29 00:43:17 UTC

it would be funny

2018-08-29 00:43:25 UTC

if we took in refugees

2018-08-29 00:43:39 UTC

an then we could mock the europeons even harder

2018-08-29 00:43:49 UTC

for actually taking in refugees as opposed to trojan horse bomb baskets

2018-08-29 00:44:03 UTC

europeons are so fucking stupid and ignorant of american life

2018-08-29 02:37:13 UTC

Should I hand out libertarian flyers around my neighborhood?

2018-08-29 02:37:20 UTC

no

2018-08-29 02:37:20 UTC

no

2018-08-29 02:37:27 UTC

But WHY

2018-08-29 02:37:44 UTC

because libertarianism is a cancer on the right wing

2018-08-29 02:37:50 UTC

Hey hey

2018-08-29 02:37:54 UTC

Hey

2018-08-29 02:37:56 UTC

No

2018-08-29 02:37:58 UTC

Explain

2018-08-29 02:38:00 UTC

Itโ€™s not

2018-08-29 02:38:28 UTC

it is, it takes social liberal positions and forces the right to move further left on these issues

2018-08-29 02:38:41 UTC

Thatโ€™s lite libertarian

2018-08-29 02:39:00 UTC

Minarchy is different

2018-08-29 02:39:03 UTC

:)))

2018-08-29 02:39:27 UTC

Libertarianism is such a large category that it fits so many different ideologies

2018-08-29 02:39:36 UTC

And libertarianism will not solve the decay of society, the death of the family, the rising drug use, deaths from despair, the loss of identity, and the demographic tide

2018-08-29 02:40:06 UTC

That canโ€™t be controlled

2018-08-29 02:40:11 UTC

It is a mechanical, soulless ideology that only has the end of furthering this idea of the free market, nothing more

2018-08-29 02:40:12 UTC

Especially with authoritarian forfe

2018-08-29 02:40:15 UTC

it sure can

2018-08-29 02:40:22 UTC

with a competent state

2018-08-29 02:40:27 UTC

Statebad

2018-08-29 02:40:30 UTC

"state bad"

2018-08-29 02:40:42 UTC

I want a night watchman state

2018-08-29 02:40:47 UTC

The state isnโ€™t your friend

2018-08-29 02:40:47 UTC

yeah alright then

2018-08-29 02:41:09 UTC

They basically are just bullyโ€™s asking for your lunch money

2018-08-29 02:41:13 UTC

He state is

2018-08-29 02:41:16 UTC

The

2018-08-29 02:41:41 UTC

state intervention is necessary for prosperity in a wide variety of situations

2018-08-29 02:41:50 UTC

Like?

2018-08-29 02:42:00 UTC

well, public utilities like water/electricity for one

2018-08-29 02:42:04 UTC

not sending kids to coal mines

2018-08-29 02:42:27 UTC

My biggest problem with the state is property tax

2018-08-29 02:42:42 UTC

keeping prosperity and intervening in monopolies

2018-08-29 02:42:55 UTC

@Borb Property tax is the best tax there is out there

2018-08-29 02:42:56 UTC

keeping vice from the streets

2018-08-29 02:42:58 UTC

Capitalism can really regulate itself

2018-08-29 02:43:03 UTC

heh

2018-08-29 02:43:06 UTC

sure it can

2018-08-29 02:43:12 UTC

that's what's going on with twitter

2018-08-29 02:43:19 UTC

Also the Government is technically a monopoly

2018-08-29 02:43:47 UTC

the state is necessary and a competent one can be quite good for the common good

2018-08-29 02:43:54 UTC

and that is really what is the end, the common good

2018-08-29 02:43:58 UTC

You vote with your dollars

2018-08-29 02:44:18 UTC

right, everything is a market

2018-08-29 02:44:23 UTC

Take Milton Friedman for example who said that the property tax is the only "good" tax. I agree with him here but the reasons he stated why it was good was because it's the only tax out theere that doesnt penalize productivity unlike the sales tax (the more you buy, stemming from more earned income, the more taxes you pay), tariff (the more trade there is, more taxation) and income tax (for obvious purposes)

2018-08-29 02:44:29 UTC
2018-08-29 02:44:39 UTC

No

2018-08-29 02:44:43 UTC

Thatโ€™s MY land

2018-08-29 02:44:45 UTC

we should allow prostitution and put a dollar value on everything on earth, it all must be the route of most efficiency and most profit

2018-08-29 02:44:48 UTC

MY property

2018-08-29 02:44:51 UTC

not the states

2018-08-29 02:44:58 UTC

tell me, bud, who protects your property rights?

2018-08-29 02:45:02 UTC

^

2018-08-29 02:45:05 UTC

Not to mention

2018-08-29 02:45:20 UTC

Iโ€™m not for abolishment of state

2018-08-29 02:45:24 UTC

Isnt it also *your* bread, *your* car, *your* profit which you earn?

2018-08-29 02:45:31 UTC

You know what night watchman state is?

2018-08-29 02:45:42 UTC

Obviously, I used to be a Minarchist

2018-08-29 02:46:01 UTC

doesn't pay for itself

2018-08-29 02:46:17 UTC

property tax in return for ensuring your property rights is certainly very reasonable, is it not?

2018-08-29 02:46:41 UTC

Libertarianism also certainly doesn't address the border issue.

2018-08-29 02:46:53 UTC

it is terrible on that, yes

2018-08-29 02:47:01 UTC

Especially given the breadth of state power necessary to enforce the border and protect demographics in the modern age.

2018-08-29 02:47:10 UTC

Brb gonna eat

2018-08-29 02:47:17 UTC

But Lex, America is a melting pot

2018-08-29 02:47:21 UTC

Stupid bigot

2018-08-29 02:47:26 UTC

we are selling off our values and culture for cold efficiency

2018-08-29 02:47:37 UTC

the market is not God

2018-08-29 02:48:02 UTC

I'm actually not a big fan of the property tax. It's one of the forms of tax which prevent one from ever truly owning their own house.

2018-08-29 02:48:44 UTC

Though to be serious, open borders would economically be a large benefit in the long run excluding all forms of government handouts. The issue however is that culture and people trump economic progress imo

2018-08-29 02:48:57 UTC

economically in theory in a vacuum

2018-08-29 02:49:02 UTC

not how it happens

2018-08-29 02:49:42 UTC

@[Lex] Depends on where you are. Most places around here go for $5k in taxes a year. My family and I currently rent and that's....... $10k which is considered cheap

2018-08-29 02:49:53 UTC

The issue with property tax is that you pay it all at once if I recall

2018-08-29 02:50:09 UTC

driving up the housing prices, lowering the wages, lowering the social trust

2018-08-29 02:50:31 UTC

only a psychopath would support open borders for economic reasons

2018-08-29 02:51:00 UTC

at least leftists support it because they're a bunch of delusional virtue signalling fucktards

2018-08-29 02:51:01 UTC

+ all the poor labour would deepen the consumption economy problem

2018-08-29 02:51:04 UTC

Though increased spending and a more diverse market would spur more innovation, would it not?

2018-08-29 02:51:11 UTC

at what cost

2018-08-29 02:51:35 UTC

Arguably, it'd hinder automation by reducing economic pressure.

2018-08-29 02:51:48 UTC

the phone's a bit shinier, the camera's a bit better, maybe it costs a bit less

2018-08-29 02:51:59 UTC

but that comes with a price far larger than it's worth

2018-08-29 02:54:59 UTC

Economically speaking, which is?

2018-08-29 02:55:02 UTC

Lowered wages?

2018-08-29 02:55:27 UTC

Lower wages is one of them, economically speaking

2018-08-29 02:55:48 UTC

but to me the economy is far in the periphery relative to something like the social trust and identity of a nation

2018-08-29 02:55:59 UTC

Velocity of money would increase due to the propensity to consume increasing in the economy.

2018-08-29 02:56:05 UTC

the GDP MEME

2018-08-29 02:56:21 UTC

+ the debt-to-gdp falling, their credit rating would improve and they'd be able to borrow more

2018-08-29 02:56:28 UTC

realpolitik

2018-08-29 02:56:55 UTC

Back

2018-08-29 02:56:58 UTC

@FLanon Agreed however I'm being the devil's advocate, arguing from a purely economic standpoint

2018-08-29 02:57:12 UTC

@Borb Did ya wolf down your food?

2018-08-29 02:57:20 UTC

No

2018-08-29 02:57:26 UTC

Small meal

2018-08-29 02:57:29 UTC

@Borb kys

2018-08-29 02:57:34 UTC

K thx

2018-08-29 02:57:48 UTC

You call me degenerate but still use the term kys

2018-08-29 02:57:56 UTC

๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆ

2018-08-29 02:58:19 UTC

smh

2018-08-29 02:58:32 UTC

Lol

2018-08-29 02:58:41 UTC

Though seriously, lemme ask you @Borb

2018-08-29 02:58:58 UTC

As compared to an AnCap society, why is a night watchman state necessary?

2018-08-29 02:58:59 UTC

Mhm

2018-08-29 02:59:12 UTC

Because ancap is retarded

2018-08-29 02:59:36 UTC

No state would mean anarchy

2018-08-29 02:59:45 UTC

An equivalence

2018-08-29 03:00:01 UTC

The NAP is a good concept but shouldnโ€™t be the only law

2018-08-29 03:00:27 UTC

If the only way to protect yourself is yourself then it really isnโ€™t civilization

2018-08-29 03:00:56 UTC

The state should only be there to protect citizens

2018-08-29 03:01:10 UTC

Protect them from a violation of contract, or beyond?

2018-08-29 03:01:22 UTC

From harm

2018-08-29 03:01:47 UTC

Would hate speech be considered a harm?

2018-08-29 03:01:51 UTC

No

2018-08-29 03:02:20 UTC

So only physical harm?

2018-08-29 03:02:33 UTC

Yes

2018-08-29 03:02:58 UTC

would you advocate for the legalization of all drugs, including PCP?

2018-08-29 03:03:05 UTC

No

2018-08-29 03:03:16 UTC

Thatโ€™s harming people

2018-08-29 03:03:31 UTC

alright so that's at least more reasonable than some

2018-08-29 03:03:38 UTC

what's the extent in your opinion

2018-08-29 03:03:53 UTC

and should we have a minimum age for drug use

2018-08-29 03:04:02 UTC

21

2018-08-29 03:04:10 UTC

Whatever age of alcohol

2018-08-29 03:04:19 UTC

If that shifts the drugs shift

2018-08-29 03:04:47 UTC

Smaller less harmful drugs I donโ€™t care

2018-08-29 03:04:58 UTC

Do fucking weed just donโ€™t hurt anyone else

2018-08-29 03:05:06 UTC

When your on pcp you are a monster

2018-08-29 03:05:13 UTC

But shouldnt I be allowed to do what I want with my own body, so long as I'm not harming others/

2018-08-29 03:05:15 UTC

You are incapable of controlling yourself

2018-08-29 03:05:27 UTC

@Vaghar you will be harming others

2018-08-29 03:05:42 UTC

You become a danger to others on heavy drugs

2018-08-29 03:05:45 UTC

so should we allow fathers to smoke weed

2018-08-29 03:06:03 UTC

Sure

2018-08-29 03:06:10 UTC

But they must fill out forms

2018-08-29 03:06:14 UTC

Some regulation

2018-08-29 03:06:20 UTC

Not just anyone above 21

2018-08-29 03:06:27 UTC

@Borb As a percentage though, most people who do heavy drugs dont harm anyone else

2018-08-29 03:06:32 UTC

Physically at least

2018-08-29 03:06:52 UTC

True

2018-08-29 03:06:59 UTC

But there is that one percentage

2018-08-29 03:07:06 UTC

Which is pretty large

2018-08-29 03:07:48 UTC

Should we also ban Christianity?

2018-08-29 03:07:55 UTC

No

2018-08-29 03:08:05 UTC

What do you think libertarians are lol

2018-08-29 03:08:07 UTC

I mean there's that 1% of Christians who attack "heathens"

2018-08-29 03:08:19 UTC

๐Ÿ˜‚

2018-08-29 03:08:29 UTC

should be much higher

2018-08-29 03:08:34 UTC

^

2018-08-29 03:08:38 UTC

Baste

2018-08-29 03:08:55 UTC

Think I'm joking?

2018-08-29 03:08:58 UTC

Donโ€™t give me fucking splc

2018-08-29 03:09:00 UTC

*theyre out there*

2018-08-29 03:09:05 UTC

Lol

2018-08-29 03:09:25 UTC

*christians bad muslims good* - billary binton

2018-08-29 03:09:36 UTC

based

2018-08-29 03:09:41 UTC

Lol

2018-08-29 03:09:41 UTC

should be much more of those

2018-08-29 03:10:04 UTC

*keep immigrants deport republicans* - billary baste binton

2018-08-29 03:10:15 UTC

Though seriously

2018-08-29 03:10:27 UTC

Why should the actions of 1% affect the remainder 99%?

2018-08-29 03:10:28 UTC

Religion is a beleif

2018-08-29 03:10:39 UTC

Itโ€™s what you do with the beliefs

2018-08-29 03:10:53 UTC

You can worship a goat for all I care

2018-08-29 03:11:00 UTC

Just donโ€™t bomb shit

2018-08-29 03:11:25 UTC

Well most people who do hard drugs do it in their basement or bedroom away from others

2018-08-29 03:11:33 UTC

Theyre not like hotboxing parties

2018-08-29 03:11:47 UTC

then they scavenge around for more

2018-08-29 03:11:55 UTC

harming people in the process

2018-08-29 03:12:20 UTC

they are the ones being harmed by the people who brought it in the country

2018-08-29 03:12:29 UTC

Itโ€™s a biological trap

2018-08-29 03:12:38 UTC

That kills

2018-08-29 03:13:20 UTC

Couldnt the same be said for marijuana though?

2018-08-29 03:13:57 UTC

No

2018-08-29 03:14:42 UTC

I'll be back, gotta finish up some AP work

2018-08-29 03:15:33 UTC

Ok

2018-08-29 03:16:57 UTC

Weed may be degenerate

2018-08-29 03:17:04 UTC

But you know whatโ€™s **NOT**

2018-08-29 03:17:17 UTC

Faith in **JESUS CHRIST**

2018-08-29 03:20:48 UTC

@Vaghar What class?

2018-08-29 03:23:01 UTC

AP Euro

2018-08-29 03:23:12 UTC
2018-08-29 03:23:22 UTC

awww :(

2018-08-29 03:23:25 UTC

I miss that class so much.

2018-08-29 03:23:40 UTC

Loved it so much, enjoy it while it lasts my friend @Vaghar

2018-08-29 03:25:03 UTC

I bet I will, I love history. The class I fear the most though is AP Lit

2018-08-29 03:25:50 UTC

AP Euro was a very fun class

2018-08-29 03:52:08 UTC

@Borb Back

2018-08-29 03:52:32 UTC

So why cant the same be said for weed?

2018-08-29 03:52:59 UTC

Why do you fear AP lit

2018-08-29 04:09:08 UTC

@Vaghar tl;dr Controlled Substances Act prohibits marijuana

2018-08-29 04:11:55 UTC

Well yes, of course

2018-08-29 04:12:24 UTC

Though this is a discussion on marijuana legality, not saying that people should use it

2018-08-29 05:27:34 UTC

GOP turnout is not low (it's about the same as 2014). Itโ€™s Dem turnout thatโ€™s high. And thatโ€™s what could cost the GOP the House.

Typically in midterms there is a turnout drop off with younger voters and non-college educated voters.

The first dropoff favors the GOP. The latter dropoff didnโ€™t matter...until 2016 (when Trump won them over) and now that could hurt the GOP (because they're now Trump's base).

As these elections have shown, turnout among whites with a college degree is up, and even higher among women in that subgroup.

While the Obama-Trump voter still exists, the issue, again, is that they may not show up this time. But that may not matter for 2020.

Moving from a 2018 to a 2020 electorate may help Trump on balance, even with higher younger turnout (won't be that high anyway).

Obama-Trump voters will be more likely to show up then, so college educated whites won't have as much weight then.

2018-08-29 05:48:34 UTC
2018-08-29 05:48:37 UTC

EMERGENCY

2018-08-29 05:48:40 UTC

VC

2018-08-29 10:15:29 UTC

What happened last night?

2018-08-29 15:02:46 UTC

>I agree with Medicare for All
>I want a Medicaid expansion
https://twitter.com/wiredsources/status/1034801326209814529

2018-08-29 15:03:59 UTC

I really hope there is a debate set up, this along with wanting to abolish ICE and believing a corporate tax increase is a tax cut, not the sharpest knife in the drawer

2018-08-29 15:12:00 UTC

@[Lex] GOP turnout is low in the special elections but high in the primaries

2018-08-29 15:20:54 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/484381942565830656/1535554914253m.jpg

2018-08-29 15:24:08 UTC

๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

2018-08-29 15:32:00 UTC

@FLanon Do you think Gillum could win

2018-08-29 15:33:46 UTC

I think DeSantis is more likely to win, but I'm not going to Hillary Effect it

2018-08-29 15:34:29 UTC

Won't Gillum turn out people who don't normally vote in midterm elections

2018-08-29 15:34:33 UTC

like Black voters

2018-08-29 15:34:49 UTC

Yeah, he's a fucking idiot who wants to abolish ICE, wants to do medicare for all and a medicaid expansion *at the same time*, is under FBI investidation, and thinks a tax increase is a tax cut for corporations

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