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This guy is obviously a planned talking head for the left, talking about the midterms
Trump's hosting a listening session for counter-optics
He needs that
We need to improve how we look to the general public
The best thing we can do is have people at these marches asking questions and exposing how uninformed these guys are
We can't let them do this unopposed.
Everyone always organizes marches and shit
Why doesn't someone throw a party
Make it so everyone is invited, antifa, the left the right everyone
Just a hell of a good time where they can grill and have a fun time
Right wing fun squads
Are you saying that's already a thing
No it is not. But actually do it, a neighborhood BBQ to increase voter turn out is good
Especially if you neighborhood leans right or are older
Yeah that'd be a crazy fun party
I'd wanna make it patriotic as hell
All the electric guitars in the world
apolitical but patriotic is a good vibe
Definitely
I think I just might do this
I don't see why anyone shouldn't
Increasing voter turnout is bad if you neighborhood leans left
I mean shit, it'll probably be the only chance I'll have for a while to have fun with a bunch of other right leaning people
Since Milo decided to make a night for freedom in DC 21+
smfh
This could very well save the GOP in 2018,
I believe @Walter Johnson pointed this out before
be very chill about this
What does that mean in English?..
You'll see
it means that when the republican primaries are over for that seat then the seat is confirmed for the republicans
44% for republican
41% for democrat
17% undecided / not voting
Kristin Gaspar should drop out of the race
lmao
imagine the butthurt if it does come down to two Republicans
is there anyway to fking flip md-6
hmm, possibly
Another retirement...
PA-5...
actually no
mb
it was an old retirement, it's just that the district changed
(PA-7 -> PA-5)
are there enough people around to do a thread right now?
I can bump it on the side
just link it
we need more than 2
I'll bumpt it every 10 minutes
okay
got any new data on a pastebin?
I'll do a few more things for the Red Storm project in the next few days, yeah
also, i will work on making a blog in a day or so, work basically doubled for me last week since i have to hire people kek
for now stick to what's in the Dropbox
did you download that Dropbox link btw ?
you sent me one?
@everyone
download this
it has everything I worked on so far
a few memes, infographics, images
and a bunch of copypastas
it has everything in <#409493745315348490>
dled
"newmidtermgeneral.doc" is what I'm using for the current version of the general threads
I'll probably change it a little soon though
im thinking i will tether my surface through my phone to self-bump
add some data
rather than op just doing it
lets use the bumps to keep adding bulletin data
This is really good
I hope so
Honestly though, if you look at the Alabama race, it wasn't Dem turnout that did it but rather Repub apathy
Do you live in Western Florida by chance? @Diethard
so if the Dems do a ton of stuff to piss off Repubs, AND we can capitalize on it, then we can see victory
@๐Boo-ton๐ Nope, eastern
So like the Jacksonville area?
asking because I'm curious what is the general attitude towards this gun debacle in your area
Florida did not decide to ban "assault weapons"
Those meme, muah, genius
My regards to the chef
Gun control is unpopular in a normal environment, then shootings happen and you get the masses begging for it
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF THE FUTURE REPUBLICAN ELECTORATE
Yeah, that sucks
how can trannies ever be conservative
it's a fucking paradox
if you're a fag, you're not going to have kids, you're not going to "conserve" any future for your country.
These guys pull the entire platform so far to the left to where we can't take any stand on the ideology, it's bullshit.
@Diethard it wasn't really "Republican apathy" that made them not turn out in Alabama, but not wanting to vote for Moore given his baggage
@FLanon someone who is trans yet supports liberty, due process, doesn't think people should be punished for using the wrong pronoun, isn't one of those feminists who whine about harrassment, etc is fine with me
They can be libertarians or classical liberals all they want, but not conservative by any stretch
I mean they arnt prob conservatives, but just libertarians who side with small goverment republicans
Conservatism and traditional values at the very least have to be held by one aiming to begin a family and continue their bloodline. Otherwise, nothing can be preserved.
Fair enough, but they shouldn't label themselves as conservatives.
If the Blue Wave becomes merely a Blue trickle we have to rub it into those enthuastic Dems faces that they just suffered Blue Balls instead.
agreed
@Kevin does your country have midterm elections?
Nah
Im in Northern Ireland
We dont even have a government for a year now lol
There always has to be a coalition between a Catholic Nationalist party and a Protestant Unionist party as per the Good Friday agreement.
Both are unwilling to compromise.
ah geez
@Kevin Yeah, that's what we should plan to do
if the Democrats do manage to gain seats, but not enough for a majority, gotta rub it in their faces
because it means they'll likely be BTFO in 2020 if they couldn't even win in 2018
oh, and of course, a Blue Wave is something they've been bleating about since Trump won
so to have it falter will no doubt demoralize them SEVERELY
I wouldn't be surprised if many of them just give up
or even better, start introspecting and join our side
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/fxn6lugfsro2o04/AAA0kSfCF-FhHM6Jk3lZ6zRWa?dl=0
@everyone download this, and let me know when you do
Can I download it on my phone? Or does it have to be my pc
I want to make sure a lot of you guys have it
@TrippyTurtle hmm, it's essentially a bunch of folders and images and .docs
it'll get downloaded as a .zip file
actually ....
let me dump the images in image dump
just created a new channel
you should still download the dropbox link, but I just realized a channel devoted to dumping memes and making new ones is something this server should have had from the start
@Kevin I've been up there in Northern Ireland once, it's beautiful up there
@๐Boo-ton๐ Most in my area are pro-control sadly
But there's a few good ones, and I honestly believe that most are just being taken along for a ride
This is why the Right needs to start grassroots action
areas there are more densely populated and pro-trump/conservative are somewhat uncommon
do you goys think this map is attainable ?
less than 10% chance
this is my assessment:
Governor:
GOP Loss: 2 (Maine, New Mexico)
GOP Tossup: 4 (Florida, Illinois, Michigan, Nevada)
Dem Tossup: 2 (Alaska/Colorado, Connecticut)
House:
GOP Loss: 6 (AZ-02 (Open), CA-39 (Open), CA-49 (Open), FL-27 (Open), PA-7 (Open, PA-05), PA-15 (Open, PA-07)/WA-08 (Open))
GOP Tossup: 15 (CA-21, CA-25, CA-45, CO-06, FL-26, IL-06, KS-03, NJ-07, PA-06, TX-07, TX-23, TX-32, VA-10)
Dem Tossup: 3 (MN-01 (Open), MN-08 (Open), NH-01 (Open)/NV-03 (Open))
Senate:
GOP Tossup: 2 (Arizona, Nevada)
Dem Tossup: 4 (Florida/West Virginia, Indiana, Missouri, North Dakota)
why do you think the GOP will lose those House seats for sure
because the incumbents are retiring
_and_ Clinton won in them
also, to reclarify, the Democrats need to take down at least 24 currently red House seats to get a majority in the House right ?
every time that has happened in history, the opposition party won 100% of the time
23 net gain
so if we win those 4 Dem tossup House races, it means the Democrats need to take down 27 other GOP incumbents to compensate?
correct
why do you think the GOP will lose the Gubernatorial races in Maine and NM for sure?
unpopularity in Maine,
enormous Hispanic electorate in New Mexico
Democrats outnumber Republicans in both states 2 to 1, which only worsens the situation with energized Dem turnout
I'd assume whoever runs as a GOP Governor candidate in Maine and NM would be much more moderate
Vermont has a GOP governor
Massachusetts has one right now IIRC
the thing is, Governors tend to not be partisan to their party
a Republican Governor in Massachusetts would basically just be a liberal who doesn't want to bankrupt the state
I'd say Illinois is tilting blue as well
"As of February 1, 2018, Charlie Baker is the most popular Governor in the country.[1] Baker is running for reelection in 2018.[2]"
We'll have to know each scenario, our chances. We'll have a better idea when primary season ends in those areas. Then we've got to get into campaigning mode. Hopefully we'll have our connections with the guys over at T_D by then and all of our apparatus ready. @AฬฬฬฬฬฬขฬงฬกฬฅฬฬญyeExEyeอจอฌฬผฬฬฒ I haven't heard any recent updates on the wordpress, is that going smoothly?
Another thing, about the house, we may be able to push some people and get wins in areas where we may not expect. An actor, Antonio Sabรกto Jr. is running for congress in CA-26. A blue district by all means, but like you say, @๐Boo-ton๐ "only a celebrity can win in California".
We can't bog ourselves in the conventional polling and the odds in each state and what's considered deep blue and red, we need a fight wherever we can put it. This hasn't been a conventional time whatsoever, wherever the tide turns, whatever it may yield, we've got to give this all we got. We need to push as hard as possible, I think the reddit stuff is our best way for this discord to drive turnout. We need to, no matter whatever the odds, push to the limit. This is what counts. The Senate has a much bigger opportunity of success than what we're making it out to be, and the House is a tough fight, but it's one which if we can salvage what we have and get seats in unexpected areas, we can make it even better than now if we do it right. Blackpills are not an option. We shall fight on the coasts, we shall fight on the plains, we shall fight in red districts and blue districts, whatever we need to. Whatever happens, if we've done all that we can, at least we can't blame ourselves.
update
CA-49: Trump's approval at 46/51 (HRC carried it 51/43). Makes you wonder if it could be held on to.
y'all remember what 90% of the polls said about the 2016 election
Well we're not counting on keeping that seat by normal measures, exactly.
credibility of polls went down the drain my man
also almost all of these polls are taken from people in urban areas
same applies to ones on the internet
and almost every urban area is left as heck
It's about momentum, it's about energy. Honestly, @๐Boo-ton๐ I know you're deep in the political statician stuff with these districts, but you can't ever let this shit demotivate you. They win when that happens. Don't make it about "not sure we'll hold on to it", we can hold on to anything with the right effort and momentum.
ur right, nothing _really_ matters until the primaries
For now, we honestly just need to work on the Discord. We can probably get those special elections won on our own if we had a megaphone like r/T_D on our side. We need to focus on housekeeping, brainstorming, what ops to do, websites, so that when the primaries come and go, we can more effectively focus on elections.
"We can't bog ourselves in the conventional polling and the odds in each state and what's considered deep blue and red, we need a fight wherever we can put it. This hasn't been a conventional time whatsoever, wherever the tide turns, whatever it may yield, we've got to give this all we got. We need to push as hard as possible, I think the reddit stuff is our best way for this discord to drive turnout. We need to, no matter whatever the odds, push to the limit. This is what counts. The Senate has a much bigger opportunity of success than what we're making it out to be, and the House is a tough fight, but it's one which if we can salvage what we have and get seats in unexpected areas, we can make it even better than now if we do it right. Blackpills are not an option. We shall fight on the coasts, we shall fight on the plains, we shall fight in red districts and blue districts, whatever we need to. Whatever happens, if we've done all that we can, at least we can't blame ourselves."
oh my fucking god, this is right on the money. You're the MVP of the Month
Yeah, we shouldn't get bogged down in the numbers and data like the out of touch leftist academics who thought Hillary would definitely win
discussing probabilities in February for something that will happen in November is pretty fruitless
ummmmm, no sweetie!
<#401223003779760168>Matters
turnout matters
Here's a list of all MAGA aligned candidates running in CA.
GOV: @JoinTravisAllen
SOS: @MarkMeuser
SEN: @RealErinCruz
CONGRESS:
CA-39 @AndrewSarega
CA-48 @TheStelian
CA-43 @RealOmarNavarro
CA-26 @AntonioSabatoJr
CA-41 @AjaforCongress
CA-08 @PatriotNotPol
CA-09 @MarcoGutierrez
here's the truth,
that's a repost from a tweet btw
high or low approval doesn't matter if you don't leave your home to vote
Obama was polling in the 50s when he lost **63** seats in the house in 2010
yeah, that's what I'm saying, we need to get Rs on their feet and registered, momentum and energy, that's all it is.
Democrat voters are different than Republican voters though
we need candidates who aren't Saccone,
R's have been more reliable when it comes to turning out in general
now, these special elections for state legislatures may tell you otherwise
people who go out and reach out to the people
but then again, they're pretty inconsequential right now given how large the GOP majorities are in these state legislatures
except in the case of Washington and almost Virginia
btw it's retarded that people pointing out how the recent Kentucky special election race had such a massive flip
because in 2016, the actual state legislature race was almost 50-50
one day maybe we can be those guys who reach out to the people
it went something like 75-25 Trump, but the incumbent seemed to be pretty connected to her district to manage to make it 50-50 with people voting downballot
it's you're going to argue that the state legislative flips mean nothing, then you would have to also say that it meant nothing when Obama lost 1000s of seats as well
it meant something because it was 1000s of seats over the course of a long period of time
whereas the GOP has been losing these special elections in legislatures where they already have such a large majority, it isn't worth caring about until the big day in November
we'll need to light a match under the R voters
ideal candidates:
1.) grassroots
2.) ideological purists
3.) no personality cultists (reagan, bush, trump, anyone)
4.) no milquetoasts/squishes (_will_ fight back against the media when justified)
5.) saints (no scandals)
6.) no too many ties to corporations and special interests
these are the six pillars to the perfect candidate
It's too bad we don't have control over the RNC, the three of us
if that were the case, this is what I could achieve.
@๐Boo-ton๐ the kinds of people who have some of those six pillars will tend to not have some of the others
Ted Cruz fits all these pillars
he didn't win,
number 7 would be a big enough microphone
people who aren't milquetoasts tend to not be saints
that's true
but you can balance it out
Cruz had too much saint-iness
what do you mean by personality cultist?
that they revere someone else like Reagan/Trump
or that they have a tendency to form a cult of personality around themselves
someone who ties their leg to a candidate and has none of their own ideas
Didn't Cruz get into a bit of trouble a few months back, he was caught liking porn on twitter or something like that?
that was a staffer, and it died out pretty quickly
@FLanon I wonder if that was a calculated stunt to make him seem more human
haha
you know why Cruz lost the general?
Among other things,
Recognition
he has a _really_ unfortunate face,
Trump had a brand, he stood out
what I mean by this,
is that Ted Cruz has the face and hair of a used car salesman
so when voters looked at him, they saw him as a liar
you would be surprised how many voters base their vote on how the candidate looks
they did studies on this,
when people have no information on what party a candidate belongs to,
or what they stand for,
they will vote for the candidate who looks more attractive
yeah, that's actually my biggest concern about the Saccone vs Lamb race
Saccone looks like an old corporate sleeze
Lamb looks like a fresh, young, helpful neighborhood familyman
and that's a problem
so in other words, we need a bunch of chad populists running everywhere in the country
@FLanon Yeah, Chads are the kinds of people who win elections
Chad populists even moreso
look at Trump
not necessarily,
either chads,
or people are friendly and really pleasant-seeming
imagine a Mormon missionary
I mean, those aren't completely mutually exclusive
in any case, yeah, we need fresh guys who know what they're doing
i forgot one pillar,
it helps to have experience in _something_
doesn't have to be politics, it can be business
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