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2018-01-31 20:02:17 UTC

This is amazing news

2018-01-31 20:04:30 UTC

If the monmouth poll is the way 2018 goes, that's what, 240 in the House?

2018-01-31 20:04:54 UTC

Easily a big rightward swing in the Senate

2018-01-31 20:08:47 UTC

One thing I noticed about the tax plan in particular is that current support is tied at 44% A and 44% D

2018-01-31 20:09:45 UTC

I hope the trend continues

2018-01-31 20:09:49 UTC

Most people are saving on the tax plan according to MaximLotts

2018-01-31 20:10:06 UTC

When they file in April, many people may get hit with the surprise

2018-01-31 20:10:07 UTC

imagine how much butthurt we can witness from the left over the course of the next few months if the GOP is maintaining a constant lead in the polls

2018-01-31 20:10:21 UTC

The media shilling falls to the wayside

2018-01-31 20:10:28 UTC

What's funny is that they'll start saying polls are BS

2018-01-31 20:10:57 UTC

come 2020, if the polls show Trump in a comfortable lead, they'll be crowing on about how it will be an upset like 2016, except for their side

2018-01-31 20:11:42 UTC

Tax plan support is only going to get better as the year continues, I was surprised that it was a tie.

2018-01-31 20:12:19 UTC

This shows it's only in the middle in growth of support, which will be in favor of the Rs

2018-01-31 20:12:37 UTC

That Monmouth poll also covers 3 days.

2018-01-31 20:12:54 UTC

Jan 28 - 30

2018-01-31 20:14:03 UTC

Meaning that we can assume most people called were called BEFORE, not AFTER Trump's monumentally successful SOTU speech

2018-01-31 20:14:46 UTC

In the next few days, I wouldn't be surprised if we see a poll which shows Rs having higher polling in the generic ballot than Dems.

2018-01-31 20:14:55 UTC

Pop the champagne

2018-01-31 20:32:27 UTC

The retirements are still problematic

2018-01-31 21:08:09 UTC

Yeah, Gowdy's a great asset, it's a shame

2018-01-31 21:09:48 UTC

But I think overall we're heading in a good direction if we can channel this energy

2018-01-31 21:10:31 UTC

Ye, things are looking better than worse now

2018-01-31 21:12:12 UTC

What makeup would a D+2 election have on the House?

2018-01-31 21:19:16 UTC

GOP retains or even gains seats

2018-01-31 21:19:45 UTC

truly astonishing

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/408370797976223745/astonishing.png

2018-01-31 21:29:28 UTC

Trump's average approval rating is also higher than its been since June 30th, 2017

2018-01-31 21:35:16 UTC

if things stay the same we can expect: R 231; D 204

2018-01-31 21:39:05 UTC

53%, huh?

2018-01-31 21:39:24 UTC

That's at D+5.6, right?

2018-01-31 21:40:27 UTC

that's at 5.9, so we could expect 2-3 seats more

2018-01-31 21:41:04 UTC

GOP could gain seats if it was D+2 ?

2018-01-31 21:41:15 UTC

yes

2018-01-31 21:41:26 UTC

districting

2018-01-31 21:41:49 UTC

i have to admit, i didn't expect the GOP to get within the 5 range,
so +2 is very well a possibility now

2018-01-31 21:43:17 UTC

We've got to remain with this positive messaging and perceived bipartisanship and allowing the dems to blunder and collapse under the progressive hysteria and then we'd have our red storm on lock.

2018-01-31 21:43:40 UTC

Trump should do more live speeches in general.

2018-01-31 21:44:19 UTC

Miller definitely has a strong hand, he should be very hard at work.

2018-01-31 21:46:24 UTC

I think the tax bill will be a sign of great continued growth with the Rs, at least until April-May.

2018-01-31 21:46:37 UTC

Tax season will have a lot of pleasant surprises.

2018-01-31 21:46:54 UTC

it should,

2018-01-31 21:47:19 UTC

right now it's only tied in support and there are still a lot of people who still have the media's leftist dogma ringing through their heads from last year

2018-01-31 21:47:40 UTC

the GOP will have to pursue some other major, landmark legislation to be safe

2018-01-31 21:47:58 UTC

44% A, 44% D, and according to Monmouth, " the number who believe that their taxes will go up (36%) outnumber those who believe that their taxes will go down (24%) or stay the same (32%) under the new system."

2018-01-31 21:48:27 UTC

People who say their taxes will go up still have a plurality.

2018-01-31 21:49:41 UTC

We've all seen the tax analyses where people see how their taxes are, and I swear, 90+% of the time, they go down.

2018-01-31 21:50:28 UTC

When they check their taxes this season, the surprise will bring major growth to support to the bill as the undeniable effects become apparent to all taxpayers.

2018-01-31 21:51:21 UTC

@๐ŸŽƒBoo-ton๐ŸŽƒ They certainly should, but what legislation would fit the bill (pardon the pun)

2018-01-31 21:57:40 UTC

What would be the effects on the Senate with the Dems at +2?

2018-01-31 21:58:03 UTC

I know it's much more individual, but there's got to be an estimate, right?

2018-01-31 22:03:38 UTC

D+2.9: 54-48 (+)
D+5.9: 53-47
D+7.9: 52-48
D+9.9: 51-49
D+12.9: 50-50

2018-01-31 22:03:42 UTC

pretty much this

2018-01-31 22:04:17 UTC

How do you do the math on that

2018-01-31 22:10:56 UTC

by taking the 2016 house seat elections and shifting each election result by the average generic ballot (right now at 5.6)
I compile the data on excel to get the results and changes of each districts instantly,
a +5.6 democratic shift would only flip less than 10 districts, fortunately

2018-01-31 22:12:07 UTC

53 seats in the senate would do some good

2018-01-31 22:12:10 UTC

what are the results if the margin is R+2, R+5, R+10

2018-01-31 22:12:27 UTC

I think that number is higher tbh if we look at it individually but it's good to know

2018-01-31 22:12:42 UTC

We get substantial increases

2018-01-31 22:12:45 UTC

gain, no change, loss (house flipped for Dems)

2018-01-31 22:13:03 UTC

oh wait,

2018-01-31 22:13:07 UTC

R

2018-01-31 22:13:10 UTC

I see you put R, mb

2018-01-31 22:13:18 UTC

We get /redstorm/

2018-01-31 22:13:33 UTC

assuming that occurs...

2018-01-31 22:13:36 UTC

let's see...

2018-01-31 22:22:09 UTC

is the analysis coming in

2018-01-31 22:22:22 UTC

new thread

2018-01-31 22:23:54 UTC

R+2.9: R 241, D 194
R+5.9: R 247, D 188
R+7.9: R 254, D 181
R+9.9: R 276, D 159

2018-01-31 22:25:16 UTC

Yeah that's what we want but I'd certainly be content w/ D+6 or below

2018-01-31 22:25:39 UTC

ya, that's the most realistic approach

2018-01-31 22:26:34 UTC

NYCanon, I think you might want to space out the posts throughout the thread instead of blowing everything at the start

2018-01-31 22:26:40 UTC

it's a better rhythm I feel

2018-01-31 22:27:16 UTC

people like more of the discussion and not just a ton of hard data and text to look through

2018-01-31 22:29:08 UTC

maybe if an anon asks "I'm in X state, what should I do" then you drop the analysis on their specific state on them

2018-01-31 22:30:20 UTC

no one really wants to scroll past all of the 50 state analysis to get to the meat of the thread, it's unpalatable especially to the average person on /pol/ who bumps blacked threads like a retard

2018-01-31 22:30:34 UTC

hmm

2018-01-31 22:30:36 UTC

sure

2018-01-31 22:30:52 UTC

I figure that having a lot of content at the start can inspire people to respond to any one of the posts

2018-01-31 22:31:20 UTC

one of the dangers of starting with only a couple posts is that people will look at the thread, see that there are only 2 posts, and don't feel compelled to post

2018-01-31 22:31:36 UTC

which leads to it dying right from the start

2018-01-31 22:31:36 UTC

it's like salt

2018-01-31 22:31:42 UTC

OP's can't bump

2018-01-31 22:31:56 UTC

too much spoils the whole meal

2018-01-31 22:31:57 UTC

so I figure I'd copy and paste a lot of posts

2018-01-31 22:32:03 UTC

I'll bump it

2018-01-31 22:32:05 UTC

so that there's a greater chance of someone responding

2018-01-31 22:32:08 UTC

thanks

2018-01-31 22:32:10 UTC

hmm

2018-01-31 22:32:16 UTC

let's have an artificial discussion in the thread

2018-01-31 22:32:26 UTC

make a post about Florida

2018-01-31 22:32:30 UTC

and I'll respond to it

2018-01-31 22:41:45 UTC

lot of productive discussion going on in the general thankfully

2018-01-31 22:49:57 UTC

Indeed

2018-01-31 22:50:33 UTC

@๐ŸŽƒBoo-ton๐ŸŽƒ Those are good stats for the House with positive R margins, but what about the Senate

2018-01-31 22:50:49 UTC

also beyond a certain point, Republican majorities in the House won't mean much

2018-01-31 22:50:55 UTC

a majority is still a majority

2018-01-31 22:51:12 UTC

I'm not sure if generic ballot is the way to go when it comes to the senate, individual races are much more important

2018-01-31 22:51:49 UTC

not much of a real difference between 260 Republicans and 300 Republicans in the House

2018-01-31 22:59:07 UTC

At R+12.9, Republicans could get 59 seats

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