Dude stop avoiding what I'm saying.

it's an example of what happens when you trust everything you "look up"

Your honestly twisting my words.

I just said we don't need pictures from the sky to map stuff

I'm talking mapping from on-earth

I want an independent mapping of all land masses by a non-Freemason associated group, with complete and verifiable documentation of the entire process and access to the raw data

then....and only then....would I even consider a map reliable

So, I'm right, you think every mapper ever is a liar

well so far....every "space agency" is a liar

so....

why not?

I'm not talking about space agencies

Omfg

Im a scientist. I don't have access to the raw data used to generate today's maps

and we already have evidence of large organizations deceiving us

I'm not just talking about today's maps

I'm talking about even the earliest maps

But of course apparently all this conspiracy started from the beginning of time or something

OK. let's suppose we pick one older map. what is your protocol to verify the accuracy of all land masses?

;_; dude, you clearly are not getting ANYTHING I am saying.

I guess not 🙂

What I'm saying is that we have never had a flat map that had no distortions. Also, you can calculate country sizes quite easily, might just take some time.

how do I "calculate country sizes"?

Looking smaller-scale, mapping how far away cities are from each other, towns, rivers, ect. I'll do it myself when i have time.
But unless you think they even lie about how far apart cities are no one can truly hide the size of a country

And I'm quite sure people would notice if they lied about how far cities were away from one another

If you want to annoy GE idiots and take skeptics like TeamSkeptic , who banned me from his idiotic server , just ask them 2 questions

They always say " WE EXAMINE AND MAKE OUR PREDICTIONS BASED ON OBSERVATIONS" - ask them about the red shifting galaxies and dark energy

something that 100000% debunks the whole idiotic graBity belief

and its 'observable' for them

Oh I know about the red shifting galaxies some

I forget if the red shift means they are going away or coming closer

away, and more distant they look, more red shift they appear

Ah, thx

and if they keep turning back, historically the time, if everything started with the big bang

they shouldnt move away with such speed, it even accelerate in their observations 🤣

I haven't heard of dark energy yet, just dark matter

10000% debunking the whole idiotic Relativity

Just because we do not know something does not mean it is completely wrong, but I'll save my judgement until after you show me what papers said they shouldn't be moving away that fast. Idk you might have a good point

https://youtu.be/Nxhk_Iqcx_8 TeamSkeptic , fake skeptic, got destroyed by Wotan

I was hoping for a paper oof, I can do.most thinks without a scientific paper, but red shifting galaxies are not one of those

I now think the earth is not flat

Earth was proved to be a globe by the Ancient Greeks

In Alexandria

Sooo, because they use a certain tool that makes them a freemason

Guess I am one because ei have used that tool once or twice

yes. that's right. that's all that's required. you use that tool just once and you're a 33rd degree Freemason.

Too bad nobody warned you.....but nothing you can do now. I think it's irreversible.

but need to find a paper or two to confirm that

https://youtu.be/nwjFGOjlkbM

That is eye-opening to say the least folks .don't let the dodgy out of tune music put you off.if you ignore the shady out of tune music at the start you will learn ab awful lot and realise what the eye means and as a bove so below
Let me know what you think peeps green_heart

Hello every being on lunch

Lol I just got back and ur reply- lmfao

How long has humanity existed for on a flat Earth?

depends who you ask

the earth was not proven to be a globe by the greeks

No one knows how long humanity has exsited

https://youtu.be/nvssUjy2HN0

the earth is actually a triangle

No <:PotatoFlatEarth:651630736712925195>

prove me wrong

If the sun circles us then the logical conclusion would be a ring of ice around us where the sun cant reach. So the known earth is a circle

but wouldnt the sun melt the ice

@Pewdielie yes to a certain point

Just as is observed

https://youtu.be/9RfSPoxh96g

Let's debunk this one

how does flat earth account for 24 hour sunlight in the antarctic during the summer solstice?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olbers%27_paradox

@Citizen Z thanks for posting the Olbers Paradox meme! I had forgotten about that. back in grad school I was taking an advanced mathematics for physicists course and the prof (also head of our theoretical chemistry group) put this problem on one of our exams. When we discussed later, he didn't offer an explanation for why we don't see this in real life and just said "it's interesting, isn't it? with a little smile :). He was a devout Christian so perhaps he had a suspicion that something is wrong but didn't dare bring it up in class. I should contact him and discuss FE. He is one of the sharpest guys I've ever met.

Its because of redshift

no I think it's gravity

I don't see how gravity would cause that effect?

it sucks the light away so we can't see it

Yes its interesting.

wha?

🤣

😄

oh its a joke

sorry. we shouldn't make a joke of space.

that's NASAs job

Whats a joke?

we pay them $20 billion per year so we shouldn't do their work for them...

The explination for this paradox fyi is that light that travels long distances gets shifted to lower frequency, an effect called "redshift." This means that stars that are very far away emit below viable ranges.

right. millions and billions of "light years" away!

but there is cosmic background radiation at lower frequencies that is similar to what the paradox describes that you can detect with a large telescope

hmm....I think I'm sticking with gravity

pardon the pun 🙂

The solution to the Olbers paradox is that there are many things in between the stars and the Earth, like nebula which absorb nearly all visible light

i am stuck on probability hw

😠

ironically i have probability hw i should be doing rn

i get answer two different ways that both seem right but they both different

yuck

There is light everywhere in the universe in the form of the cosmic microwave background

u can post the question and i can try to help if u want

im not sure if i can

"Jimmy is one of n people playing a game. They take turins flipping a biased coin for which the probability of heads is equal to p and tails is q= 1-p. They will go one after another in a predetermined order; once someone flips heads the game is over and he/she is declared the winner." Find a closed form expression for the expected value of the number of times jimmy flips the coin if he is LAST in line

I have my first method which is

E(coin flips) = 0*p(J doesnt flip) + 1*p(J flips and wins) + (1 + E(coin flips))*p(J flips and doesnt win)

but this doesnt give me same answer as brute forcing

1p(j wins first flip) + 2(j wins 2nd flip) + 3(j wins 3rd flip) + .....

and evaluating series

so the expected number of total flips for everyone is 1 / p is i believe

50%

oof

i got for the first method

q^(n-1)/(1 - q^n)

and for second method

thats just total flips not for jimmy

oh you mean flips til game ends

yeah

ok

so a heuristic (not exact) probability would be 1 / pn

the probability of reaching the nth flip is q^(n - 1) i think

so its the sum from i = 1 to i = infinity of q^(i * n) * p

if n = 2 and p = 0.5

thats 0.5 ^ 2 * 0.5 + 0.5 ^ 4 * 0.5 + 0.5 ^ 6 * 0.5... etc

which i think is right

ello my fellow flattists

oh

wrong place

i think most of the flat earthers are offline rn

'good day

lolwhat

earlier, i asked how flat earth accounts for 24 hour sunlight in the antarctic during the summer solstice and citizen ice responded with this gif https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/652017778206965760/FEEarthBestProof.gif

the problem is that gif contradicts the earlier explanations ive been given for how season work in flat earth?

that clip fails to explain for the antartic

thank you

unless i am misinterpreting it

the sun supposedly rotates in a circle above the earth, with its diameter changing over the course of the year

however, it stays at the same height the whole time

but looking at that gif, under a dome earth, that is impossible

wtf

anyone besides citizen want to help me? not citizen hes annoying af

you'd have to ask a flat earther how it is supposed to work cause idk

the sunlight conseption wouldnt make sense if the earth were flat in the first place

how does that fail to explain the antarctic?

well the antartic... isnt... always... in light?

the antartic is the ice ring around the earth

ur talking abt 24 hour darkness during winter solstice?

~~incorrect~~ yes, but no

thats the winter solstice

if ur talking about the 24 hour periods of darkness, that is supposedly explained because during the winter months the sun is rotating in a small circle around the north pole

the circles diameter is small enough that no light reaches the antarctic, apparently

but this explanation for seasons makes no sense if im also supposed to believe what im seeing in the gif citizen sent

:/

thank you

the *antarctic*, and i'm referring to the months long days and nights which i believe is also in the antarctic (correct me if I'm wrong). we should wait for a flat earther to show and move to <#538929818834698260> if they do.

you know though... like i have said to shalop eariler

it is incredibly difficult to win an argument against an intelligent person
it is impossible to win an argument against an idiot

im not even trying to argue with these people, its not possible to win

it is not.

tried and true

don't call people idiots if your trying to make an arguement. Insults are not an argument

we should stop spamming this channel and move to <#484514023698726912>

their logic is flawed. they believe the bible above all else. if something disagrees with the scriptures, it is wrong. you'll never shake their faith in religion lmao

fug that im not moving to lounge it stinks there

.

Some flat earthers are atheists. You can't really treat everyone as having the same perspective and argument

not trying to be rude

but you see

@Nutsack jones <#587834333902143520>

its 100% to have ur own opinion

@Shalop bro stop being such a dweeb

its just, when it confides with the basic logic, it gets quite questionable

but ykw i understand Shalop's stance too

my point is that you cant say "oh all of <Insert Group Here> thinks <Insert Opinion Here>" because its normally not true. I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if the majority of flat earthers in this server are not religious.

yea i can say that and i will idgaf

well

id bet at least 80% of the hardcore flat earthers are religious

im christian yet i tend to lean in more to reasoning, science, and such

idc that its not technically correct to say it you get the point

dont be a weirdo and try and lecture me on technicalities that dont even matter

i dont care.

look at someones roles to see their religious opinions if your curious

oh btw

whats a red pill

its a refrence to a scene from the move "The Matrix"

havent watched.

looks like this -> <:Redpill:551640293372329984>

please don't hurt me

in the movie, everyone is in a simulation. morpheus offers 2 pills to the main character. When he takes the red pill, he learns the world is a simulation and it turns his world upside down (wonder how that works with flat earth). It's a politcal statement basically meaining dont trust what ppl tell u

I believe in science over opinions

Normally affiliated w conservitive ideas since red = republicans = generally conservative but not nessesarily

oh

ew

elephants

forget about the redpill bro take the blackpill

trust me man

._.

Who here has recorded a 24H sun in Antarctica?

not me! got me bro! guess it doesnt exist! haha!

bcs.....people have gone through the YT videos and there is clear evidence of fakery

...

....oh no....

you poor... poor thing...

Would love to see it/film it myself one day....

wow man thats crazy so they debunked every single youtube video and record of 24 hour sun?

you can, and its not even that hard

<#538929818834698260> if you are going to debate

just save up some money and take a trip to the antarctic peninsula in june

wait wait wait

@Shalop no

@Flat Earth PhD whats the evidence?

ok then

i am intrigued to be shared with such knowledge

yeah once the collapse happens and gold/silver get to reach true market value I will do there.

what?

lol

heck I might be able to buy Antarctica 🙂

the greatest economic collapse in world history

coming soon to a town near you

sigh, i can't take this anymore

you realize any civilian tourist can take a trip there right now, right? theres even a museum there

lol

yes. we are aware of this.

my younger immaturity can't take it in anymore

you should leave then if you are about to get triggered. we dont want that.

and if you were to take a trip to the peninsula during june, you would see the 24 hour sun (or maybe not.....!!)

rekt

oh heckled

thats funky fresh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg8mUWlpt_c

....poor soul....

bro can you give me a timestamp im not watching 3.5 hours

..god truly bless you....

why did you post that? does it say anything about visiting the museum in antarctica?

yes. watch it. don't be lazy

nothing good ever comes from laziness

if you want truth you have to put in some effort

if not, keep watching TV

listen to CNN

ignorance is bliss

no im not watching 3.5 hours you are out of your mind

i hate the font cnn uses for their breaking news

it bothers me

change "unpleasant truths" to "3 hour boring youtube videos"

way more accurate

don't watch it. stay ignorant. your choice

annnnnnyway do you have anything else to say about the 24 hour daylight..? or what

if i were you id start planning a trip there right now. few years of saving and you can prove to yourself whether theyve been lying this whole time!

i mean antartica is cool for other reasons

oh no....