I just said we don't need pictures from the sky to map stuff

I'm talking mapping from on-earth

I want an independent mapping of all land masses by a non-Freemason associated group, with complete and verifiable documentation of the entire process and access to the raw data

then....and only then....would I even consider a map reliable

So, I'm right, you think every mapper ever is a liar

well so far....every "space agency" is a liar

so....

why not?

I'm not talking about space agencies

Omfg

Im a scientist. I don't have access to the raw data used to generate today's maps

and we already have evidence of large organizations deceiving us

I'm not just talking about today's maps

I'm talking about even the earliest maps

But of course apparently all this conspiracy started from the beginning of time or something

OK. let's suppose we pick one older map. what is your protocol to verify the accuracy of all land masses?

;_; dude, you clearly are not getting ANYTHING I am saying.

I guess not 🙂

What I'm saying is that we have never had a flat map that had no distortions. Also, you can calculate country sizes quite easily, might just take some time.

how do I "calculate country sizes"?

Looking smaller-scale, mapping how far away cities are from each other, towns, rivers, ect. I'll do it myself when i have time.
But unless you think they even lie about how far apart cities are no one can truly hide the size of a country

And I'm quite sure people would notice if they lied about how far cities were away from one another

If you want to annoy GE idiots and take skeptics like TeamSkeptic , who banned me from his idiotic server , just ask them 2 questions

They always say " WE EXAMINE AND MAKE OUR PREDICTIONS BASED ON OBSERVATIONS" - ask them about the red shifting galaxies and dark energy

something that 100000% debunks the whole idiotic graBity belief

and its 'observable' for them

Oh I know about the red shifting galaxies some

I forget if the red shift means they are going away or coming closer

away, and more distant they look, more red shift they appear

Ah, thx

and if they keep turning back, historically the time, if everything started with the big bang

they shouldnt move away with such speed, it even accelerate in their observations 🤣

I haven't heard of dark energy yet, just dark matter

10000% debunking the whole idiotic Relativity

Just because we do not know something does not mean it is completely wrong, but I'll save my judgement until after you show me what papers said they shouldn't be moving away that fast. Idk you might have a good point

https://youtu.be/Nxhk_Iqcx_8 TeamSkeptic , fake skeptic, got destroyed by Wotan

I was hoping for a paper oof, I can do.most thinks without a scientific paper, but red shifting galaxies are not one of those

I now think the earth is not flat

Earth was proved to be a globe by the Ancient Greeks

In Alexandria