you said that the zohar was created in the middle ages, which was false. you said the talmud was created in the middle ages, which was false.

i mean, based on what is said in the talmud itself, it wouldnt be surprising if its existence is much older than we're told. i've never read any text that encourages such deceptive behavior

The Zohar was created in the Middle Ages

What does this have to do with the earth's shape though? <:confused:625494374402228244>

@Deleted User straw manning right now? i said the zohar

Sorry, my mistake

The Zohar

Which is a middle age document

@floridaswamptrash a lot of so-called theories are just based on the philosophies of the zohar,kaballah and other mystic texts

I thought the Talmud was a middle age document, but as River rightly pointed out, it was a late antiquity document

zohar dates back to 2nd century AD

No, that’s incorrect

By your own sources that’s incorrect

And even if it were correct, it disproves your original point

i gave you 2 sources and a citation

So are you just arguing to argue?

Yes, and both agree with me

What is your question?

@Millennium Envoy Aight

''De León ascribed the work to Shimon bar Yochai ("Rashbi"), a rabbi of the 2nd century during the Roman persecution[5] ''

Mhm, did you read the next sentence?

as·cribe
/əˈskrīb/
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past tense: ascribed; past participle: ascribed
attribute something to (a cause).

Where they say it can’t possible have been him because it references things that happened after the Talmud?

If you’re going to be an asshole, you might want to have your facts straight

together with the circumstance that it refers to historical events of the post-Talmudical period,

When you read that, what does that mean to you?

@floridaswamptrash which makes arguing about religion pretty much pointless

De Leon never said he completed the Zohar, he compiled all the works that was passed down and published it

Yes, good work, that’s correct

Now did you read the entire article like a good boy?

Finish your homework

He gave the works credit to a 2nd century rabbi

Mhm, and what does the article say about that assertion?

Do you need me to answer that for you, or can you read all the letters yourself?

ok im positive im getting trolled lmao

@Sassy Undeniably Possibility

Well you’re being a petulant child so that’s how I’m treating you

But can you answer the question?

@Deleted User publisher != creator of the book

Did you read the whole article?

Just mute Sophia, insults

Mhm yes good job honey

well when you realize it is just a belief you then gain perspective and put it in it's proper place

Now did you finish the whole article like a big boy?

Where it says that attribution can’t possibly be accurate

Because it references things in the post Talmudic period?

Post-Talmudic means “after the Talmud”

she doesn't know anything about history, she attributed the talmud to the middle ages then said the zorah was created in the middle ages wtf

Let me know if you’re still following along

The Zohar was created in the Middle Ages

The Talmud was created in late antiquity

seems to me this discussion should happen in the religious section

I was confusing the Talmud with the combined Talmud and mishna, it was my mistake

But my point still stands

in your head

Ok, so we’ve proved that the Zohar was written after the Talmud

Mhm, what part of my point doesn’t stand honey?

Can you use your words like a big boy?

Maybe make a full syllogism like they’re teaching you in your freshman logic class?

It’s ok sweetie I’ll wait

Sophia please stop being condescending and trying to belittle someone. Why don't you use your big girl brain if you are so smart and leave the not so subtle insult behind.

@Deleted User take a deep breath, in and out. why are you being so hostile? it's fine, you learned your lesson that the zohar was created by who and that the talmud isn't a middle age book. hopefully you will stop spreading pseudohistory

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@rivenator12113 so you’re not able to answer the question I asked you?

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Just mute I say it's a waste of typing

@Sassy Undeniably because I have absolutely not the slightest respect for this rude subhuman trash.

over what?

prove to me the earth is flat

He’s an intellectually dishonest moron and needs to be treated as such

You doing to much girl

hmm i don't like to mute 😛 but this one is very emotional

So River, we’re waiting for you to answer

What part of my point doesn’t stand?

Or we can just move on

your refutation was false

No, it wasn’t

My refutation was accurate

You claimed the Zohar was written in ancient times

Or in the first century, you’ve made both claims

And I proved that you were wrong

The Zohar was written in the Middle Ages, as both your sources show

How old are you, sincerely

your claim is, Moses Delon published in the 16th century therefore it was created in the middle ages.

Nope

Invalid claim

That is not my claim

@Andrewi https://twitter.com/Urisoli/status/1198988421777297408?s=20

Patents don't make it in use peope can file patents for a flying washing machine

The publisher is not the creator

I never made that claim

Never once have I made that claim

What was your claim then?

The Zohar was written in the Middle Ages because of all the references to the Middle Ages in it

Honestly did you read the articles you sent?

All the way through?

It was passed down generation to generation, but was created in the 2nd century. Why is this so hard to grasp?

Do any of these references out right say it is The Zohar or because it is similar to what is said in it that it must be that it existed in that time?

@rivenator12113 ok, let me try to simplify this for you

If you find a piece of paper