(evening folks)

I don't have the change nickname perm :(

Sorry, I want to participate in this discussion

Being sceptical is good, of course

But I'm not going to be sceptical of things forever

also, just sayin', this channel says "please do not debate in here"

Oh

Well I wanna debate lol

if anyone else does, I'll be in the channel

I agree tho

statistically, like 70% of furs are gay

also traps are just logically gay

Correct

wat

who is "they" tho

' "they" want to be labeled...'

who is they tho, in your previous messages

Yeah

Kevin

You said "they want to be labeled as women...[etc]"

who is "they"?

what is TG-ing

you're using it as a verb it seems

OH

LMAO

OLD REFERENCES

So what's TG?

Ohhh

Gay != transgender

Hr was gay tho

I think..

Rip internet

Hydra?

Wait what exactly are we debating?

not really competing

they kinda are, still

Anxiety and stuff can mess with the immune system etc

Prove it?

Okay

sure

FALLICY

LOGICAL FALLACY

"Appeal to Popularity"

Ships sail over the curve

Yes, they do

I can go outside once it's day time

take my 30x zoom lense

zoom in alllll the way

and watch a ship disappear

It wasn't supposed to be a test, it's just demonstrating that ships disappear

Oh, yeah, sorry.

I forgot to add that bit

But yeah, I can do exactly that, and no ship

we don't have limited view

...I'm not lying

I've done it myself :v

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-a04c6df7269268394ce2348d6476bf22-c

the ship is blocked by the curve of the earth

What is it then?

...what

please explain

If it's flat water

then where is the hull?

The water is blocking the ship, not the air

uhm...

You can bring it into focus

but you can't see the whole thing

focus != seeing the whole object

please, explain this water vapor thing more

can you please draw a diagram of the light rays going through water vapor?

Of course. Shrinking does not at all mean covering half the object

I don't really understand the water vapour thing

A diagram would help

as far as I know, atmospheric refraction would bring a ship past the curve *back*, not obscure it

No diagram?

:(

Oh, sorry okay

I'll wait

Mhm, of course. I just don't understand the path of light

well with refraction

Can we stay on the topic of refraction please

I know, I just want a simple diagram

to explain how the refraction affects how you see the ship

you can draw it in paint for all I care I just want a diagram

so the water vapor bends light towards the water?

wait no sorry

my bad

fair enough, but at no point should water vapor look like water exactly, unless it's, well, water

well it's water vapor, not water liquid

although they are similar, the vapor means the particles are more spread out

But that's actually liquid water. If you look through enough of anything it will block your view.

Of course. *But*

Stacking water vapor on top of water vapor doesn't make it look like liquid water

Well, no, it's not. Water vapor does not look like water

How?

Okay, watching now

I know what that is

https://www.farmersalmanac.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/ship-fatamorgana-600x319.jpg

this is fata morgana