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No ones stopping you
Listen
If there is an Input
Something that works forever without us
We can harness it and take free energy
That's what I'm speaking on
Nuclear fusion is basically free energy
But if that particular input is out of grasp because the theory is detached from reality then we'll never know what we're looking for
For example, they don't even know what gravity is and they're looking for it in all the wrong ways by destroying things
It's a money scam
and a massive lie
The magic lies in the electrical component
How do you think clouds float
Trillions of gallons of water
Just hovering
Yeah?
Yea.
So like I said
There is no globe, electricity and God are king
And no, I'm not religious, it's just facts
God is not facts
If you cannot find an input
then you're under that god
whatever it is
what
someone join lounge
pretty please
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you guys dont even know what a debate is why does thie exist
Earth
Is
Round
@everyone
F
No
Its a simulation
its a sphere in a simulation
big brain
Yes
Like ur mum
Like jonah
Hi
Whyd u mute him?
!mute @~Sn<โข>zy~
whyd you mute him?
spamming ?
get?
wasnt
other guy was
yea
Earth is flat ive learnt my lesson
@catman dont concern troll
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read <#484513575801454593>
Basically its when staff abuse powers and you call them out on it
ahh
right, well you can pretend whatever you want, but youre still going to either follow the servers rules or be moderated. deal with it, one way or another.
Wtf is this censorship bs?
their just trying to run a server man
This is from your new favorite picture
@Silly Rabbit, Trix Are For Kids I do follow the server rules. It's just cancer when every time I've called out staff for abusing perms (not specifically on this server), staff use "concern trolling" as a defense to ban anyone who questions their moderation. Not saying you abused perms, I don't even know why the guy was muted, but abuse or not, it doesn't even allow people to question the moderation of staff because of "concern trolling". This is like if you all were thrown in jail for making a discord server questioning the government, because you're pretending to be "concerned". It's aids.
!ban @Quorum concern trolling is cancer
Quorum didnt ban himself.
F
k
F
F
I civilly state that the world is not flat and is infact a sphere
Earth is round. It's scientific fact
There was a time when someone got muted for saying F, that was sad
F
hi positivity, good morning
F
noice
it is though
random question
why do people believe god exists?
in the christian sense?
just asking
Why do people believe in the big bang existence?
In the atheist sense?
just asking
because the way that certain particles move (and the movement of galaxies) seem to indicate that they are slowly moving away from a certain point, indicating that there was a starting point
it also seems like a more likely explanation that "god created the universe" to me
๐คช
i'm not saying that it's 100% true
it's a theory
Let me ask you a simple question
it just seems more likely
and there are other theories and stuff
How can matter be created if it can't be created or destroyed to even start a singularly which started the big bang?
Uhhh well Fred, what youโre referring to is a law
sorry?
yeah
About the movement of galaxies away
ah
right
Theories describe why, laws describe what
yeah
Anyway, conservation of mass is a shorthand
Matter is both created and destroyed all the time
i wasn't talking about the movement of galaxies as a theory though
Ah okay
I believe in God AND the Big Bang. ๐ฎ
You'd have to say that the law of conservation with mass and energy is wrong then dude
firstly, the question of where the thing that started the universe came from (a bit crude, but you know what i mean) is one that will always exist
*you can believe in both*
they're not mutually exclusive
Doesn't mean that either is true
i asked why people believe in god
in the christian sense
and to an extent, all organised religion
and there are christians who believe in the big bang
so this topic is pretty pointless
Dumb Christians
florida
^
rule 18
so why do you believe in god then
I believe in God from a creation standpoint. *Something* suddenly converted an *unfathomable* amount of energy into mass.
fair enough
The bible says no
You can't believe in the big bang and God
why is that
hi ten
You'd have to say that the law of conservation with mass and energy is wrong then dude
The law of conservation of mass is wrong. Itโs not even a real law anymore
hello
why is it wrong
To clarify, you can't believe God started the big bang or you'd be ignoring the first book in the bible
Energy is conserved
maybe heโs not talking about the bible
Christians do not need to accept the Bible
hmmm
They only need to accept Jesus
That's not Christianity then
thats not a christian belief rad
in the broad sense, yeah
did he say it was
Yes it is
He said he is a Christian but don't believe Genesis
ok
Essentially anyways
Iโm not a Christian
that god created the universe in 7 days?
i just went back
or 6
or however long it took
Days didnโt exist in the same sense, and it was 7
his religion tag says other and he never said he was christian
ok bye
love you
bye ten
@tekashi Drew said he is I'm talking about Drew
i am tooo
when did he say that
link it
he said i quote
i believe in god AND the big bang
oh, sorry! I was raised Christian, but I consider myself more of a pantheist.
not christianity
ha i am right and you are rong!โn
Aight
i am too smart for my own good
its not about you though ten
ok
true or false perhaps
Pantheist in what way? Hindu? Old Hebrew? Kemetic? Germanic?
it just seems a little like blind faith in some cases
not all
@TheBiscuitMuncher Yeah but Christians who claim to believe in the big bang aren't real Christians for obvious reasons
thats ironic
what is?
@RadRhys I don't know the history behind it, so I'm not sure, but I think maybe God *IS* the energy that makes up the universe. I think that if God exists, "He's" not anthropomorphic; He's beyond understanding or relating to.
the big bang is not proven, and youre bringing up somebody else having blind faith
Thatโs inherent for all metaphysical deities, drewski
but we accept it as a theory
not as a fact
that's not blind faith
Nothing can be objectively proven
exactly
Theories are often considered fact, Fred
yes, but the fact is that they're not
they're theories
and by definition, a theory isn't a fact
so then youre on equal footing with a christian then
not really
yeah
Theories require testing, observations, etc.
"Redshifting" big bang must be real ๐คช
observe the big bang, show me the evidence please
You canโt test, observe, or otherwise extrapolate a metaphysical entity
we're not telling you it's 100% proven
so now youre talking metaphysics
it's not
You donโt need to directly observe the Big Bang, remember the conversation about cause and effect?
but many christians simply have "faith"
which isn't enough for me
religion is the metaphysics, hello
the law of causality and the big bang conflict
Heli*
another reason to trash the big bang
trying to claim things are random shows that you dont know about science, no offense
That simultaneously implies nothing happened before the Big Bang and that the Big Bang happened without reason
youre stuck on thinking a big bang happened
I never even made the claim that it happened throughout this entire conversation
RadRhysToday at 11:34 AM
That simultaneously implies nothing happened before the Big Bang and that the Big Bang happened without reason
for example
so you just bold faced lied
i never said that it was 100% proven, and that i believed it without question
The CMB is excellent observable evidence for the Big Bang.
No I did not, thatโs not an assertion of the Big Bang
its in your own words rad
copy/paste
And where does it imply or explicitly mention that the Big Bang happened?
RadRhysToday at 11:34 AM
That simultaneously implies nothing happened before the Big Bang and that the Big Bang happened without reason
Itโs treated as a given, because thatโs literally what this conversation is about
No assertion was made
Youโre moving the topic
The big bang should have been put in the mainstream trash can the moment it was purposed
the premise of your position is that the big bang happened
im not trying to move the topic, i disagree with you
Thatโs literally what the conversation is about, heli
theres this thing where people can disagree
Btw I gotta drive to clasd in less than 5 minutes so thatโs how long yโall have
youve been arguing for that and randomness
now youre telling me i cant disagree with you
i can mute you for trolling like a mofo
No such claim was made
No idea where youโre getting that from
You can mute me but it wouldnโt be for trolling
@Ronin Reasons already shared in this channel in the last few minutes
you accused me of moving the conversation because i disagree with you
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