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2019-11-16 22:57:39 UTC

No ones stopping you

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Listen

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If there is an Input

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Something that works forever without us

2019-11-16 22:57:59 UTC

We can harness it and take free energy

2019-11-16 22:58:12 UTC

That's what I'm speaking on

2019-11-16 22:58:30 UTC

Nuclear fusion is basically free energy

2019-11-16 22:58:39 UTC

But if that particular input is out of grasp because the theory is detached from reality then we'll never know what we're looking for

2019-11-16 22:59:07 UTC

For example, they don't even know what gravity is and they're looking for it in all the wrong ways by destroying things

2019-11-16 22:59:11 UTC

It's a money scam

2019-11-16 22:59:15 UTC

and a massive lie

2019-11-16 22:59:37 UTC

The magic lies in the electrical component

2019-11-16 22:59:49 UTC

How do you think clouds float

2019-11-16 22:59:58 UTC

Trillions of gallons of water

2019-11-16 23:00:01 UTC

Just hovering

2019-11-16 23:00:10 UTC

Yeah?

2019-11-16 23:00:12 UTC

Yea.

2019-11-16 23:00:17 UTC

So like I said

2019-11-16 23:00:30 UTC

There is no globe, electricity and God are king

2019-11-16 23:00:40 UTC

And no, I'm not religious, it's just facts

2019-11-16 23:01:05 UTC

God is not facts

2019-11-16 23:05:44 UTC

If you cannot find an input

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then you're under that god

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whatever it is

2019-11-16 23:10:13 UTC

what

2019-11-17 00:38:28 UTC

someone join lounge

2019-11-17 00:39:10 UTC

pretty please

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2019-11-17 06:36:06 UTC

<:vSuccess:390202497827864597> Successfully banned <@573099152356147230>

2019-11-17 14:28:06 UTC

GPS Shows Flaws in Relativity - Movie Clip from Einstein Wrong https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1Pe8y74Avg

2019-11-17 14:31:42 UTC

RON HATCH: Relativity in the Light of GPS | EU 2013 ^

2019-11-17 21:15:23 UTC

you guys dont even know what a debate is why does thie exist

2019-11-17 21:35:13 UTC

Earth

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Is

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Round

2019-11-17 21:35:23 UTC

@everyone

2019-11-17 21:35:52 UTC

F

2019-11-17 21:36:23 UTC

No

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Its a simulation

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its a sphere in a simulation

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big brain

2019-11-17 21:36:56 UTC

Yes

2019-11-17 21:37:00 UTC

Like ur mum

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Like jonah

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Hi

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!mute @Kill me

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2019-11-17 21:37:41 UTC

Whyd u mute him?

2019-11-17 21:37:50 UTC
2019-11-17 21:37:50 UTC

2019-11-17 21:38:11 UTC

whyd you mute him?

2019-11-17 21:38:45 UTC

spamming ?

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get?

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wasnt

2019-11-17 21:38:59 UTC

other guy was

2019-11-17 21:39:06 UTC

yea

2019-11-17 22:38:21 UTC

Earth is flat ive learnt my lesson

2019-11-17 23:22:48 UTC

@catman dont concern troll

2019-11-17 23:22:58 UTC

?

2019-11-17 23:23:09 UTC

read <#484513575801454593>

2019-11-17 23:43:46 UTC

Basically its when staff abuse powers and you call them out on it

2019-11-17 23:44:13 UTC

ahh

2019-11-17 23:48:17 UTC

right, well you can pretend whatever you want, but youre still going to either follow the servers rules or be moderated. deal with it, one way or another.

2019-11-17 23:57:40 UTC

@Kill me would you like to get muted again ?

2019-11-18 00:13:37 UTC

Wtf is this censorship bs?

2019-11-18 00:14:40 UTC

their just trying to run a server man

2019-11-18 00:17:58 UTC

This is from your new favorite picture

2019-11-18 00:18:34 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/645779851441340417/unknown.png

2019-11-18 00:18:37 UTC
2019-11-18 01:44:47 UTC

@Silly Rabbit, Trix Are For Kids I do follow the server rules. It's just cancer when every time I've called out staff for abusing perms (not specifically on this server), staff use "concern trolling" as a defense to ban anyone who questions their moderation. Not saying you abused perms, I don't even know why the guy was muted, but abuse or not, it doesn't even allow people to question the moderation of staff because of "concern trolling". This is like if you all were thrown in jail for making a discord server questioning the government, because you're pretending to be "concerned". It's aids.

2019-11-18 01:45:59 UTC

!ban @Quorum concern trolling is cancer

2019-11-18 01:46:00 UTC

2019-11-18 01:50:52 UTC

Quorum didnt ban himself.

2019-11-18 01:51:47 UTC

F

2019-11-18 01:53:25 UTC

k

2019-11-18 02:07:05 UTC

F

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F

2019-11-18 03:21:50 UTC

I civilly state that the world is not flat and is infact a sphere

2019-11-18 06:03:22 UTC

Earth is round. It's scientific fact

2019-11-18 09:14:25 UTC

There was a time when someone got muted for saying F, that was sad

2019-11-18 11:32:05 UTC

F

2019-11-18 11:43:01 UTC

hi positivity, good morning

2019-11-18 15:30:54 UTC

F

2019-11-18 15:56:35 UTC

noice

2019-11-18 15:56:38 UTC

it is though

2019-11-18 16:23:51 UTC

random question

2019-11-18 16:23:58 UTC

why do people believe god exists?

2019-11-18 16:24:01 UTC

in the christian sense?

2019-11-18 17:05:59 UTC

just asking

2019-11-18 17:08:00 UTC

Why do people believe in the big bang existence?

2019-11-18 17:08:14 UTC

In the atheist sense?

2019-11-18 17:08:17 UTC

just asking

2019-11-18 17:15:06 UTC

because the way that certain particles move (and the movement of galaxies) seem to indicate that they are slowly moving away from a certain point, indicating that there was a starting point

2019-11-18 17:17:10 UTC

it also seems like a more likely explanation that "god created the universe" to me

2019-11-18 17:17:39 UTC

๐Ÿคช

2019-11-18 17:17:55 UTC

i'm not saying that it's 100% true

2019-11-18 17:17:57 UTC

it's a theory

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Let me ask you a simple question

2019-11-18 17:18:01 UTC

it just seems more likely

2019-11-18 17:18:10 UTC

and there are other theories and stuff

2019-11-18 17:18:44 UTC

How can matter be created if it can't be created or destroyed to even start a singularly which started the big bang?

2019-11-18 17:18:55 UTC

Uhhh well Fred, what youโ€™re referring to is a law

2019-11-18 17:19:06 UTC

sorry?

2019-11-18 17:19:07 UTC

yeah

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About the movement of galaxies away

2019-11-18 17:19:08 UTC

ah

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right

2019-11-18 17:19:24 UTC

Theories describe why, laws describe what

2019-11-18 17:19:35 UTC

yeah

2019-11-18 17:19:46 UTC

Anyway, conservation of mass is a shorthand

2019-11-18 17:19:56 UTC

Matter is both created and destroyed all the time

2019-11-18 17:19:59 UTC

i wasn't talking about the movement of galaxies as a theory though

2019-11-18 17:20:11 UTC

Ah okay

2019-11-18 17:21:37 UTC

I believe in God AND the Big Bang. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

2019-11-18 17:21:39 UTC

You'd have to say that the law of conservation with mass and energy is wrong then dude

2019-11-18 17:21:46 UTC

firstly, the question of where the thing that started the universe came from (a bit crude, but you know what i mean) is one that will always exist

2019-11-18 17:21:57 UTC

*you can believe in both*

2019-11-18 17:22:05 UTC

they're not mutually exclusive

2019-11-18 17:22:11 UTC

Doesn't mean that either is true

2019-11-18 17:22:13 UTC

i asked why people believe in god

2019-11-18 17:22:21 UTC

in the christian sense

2019-11-18 17:22:27 UTC

and to an extent, all organised religion

2019-11-18 17:22:40 UTC

and there are christians who believe in the big bang

2019-11-18 17:22:47 UTC

so this topic is pretty pointless

2019-11-18 17:22:51 UTC

Dumb Christians

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florida

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^

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rule 18

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so why do you believe in god then

2019-11-18 17:23:41 UTC

I believe in God from a creation standpoint. *Something* suddenly converted an *unfathomable* amount of energy into mass.

2019-11-18 17:24:03 UTC

fair enough

2019-11-18 17:24:05 UTC

The bible says no

2019-11-18 17:24:21 UTC

You can't believe in the big bang and God

2019-11-18 17:24:29 UTC

why is that

2019-11-18 17:24:37 UTC

hi ten

2019-11-18 17:24:40 UTC

You'd have to say that the law of conservation with mass and energy is wrong then dude

The law of conservation of mass is wrong. Itโ€™s not even a real law anymore

2019-11-18 17:24:43 UTC

hello

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why is it wrong

2019-11-18 17:24:52 UTC

To clarify, you can't believe God started the big bang or you'd be ignoring the first book in the bible

2019-11-18 17:24:58 UTC

Energy is conserved

2019-11-18 17:25:06 UTC

maybe heโ€™s not talking about the bible

2019-11-18 17:25:09 UTC

Christians do not need to accept the Bible

2019-11-18 17:25:13 UTC

hmmm

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They only need to accept Jesus

2019-11-18 17:25:20 UTC

That's not Christianity then

2019-11-18 17:25:24 UTC

thats not a christian belief rad

2019-11-18 17:25:24 UTC

in the broad sense, yeah

2019-11-18 17:25:26 UTC

did he say it was

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Yes it is

2019-11-18 17:25:39 UTC

He said he is a Christian but don't believe Genesis

2019-11-18 17:25:43 UTC

ok

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Essentially anyways

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Iโ€™m not a Christian

2019-11-18 17:25:57 UTC

that god created the universe in 7 days?

2019-11-18 17:25:58 UTC

i just went back

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or 6

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or however long it took

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Days didnโ€™t exist in the same sense, and it was 7

2019-11-18 17:26:23 UTC

his religion tag says other and he never said he was christian

2019-11-18 17:26:56 UTC

ok bye

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love you

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bye ten

2019-11-18 17:27:18 UTC

@tekashi Drew said he is I'm talking about Drew

2019-11-18 17:27:34 UTC

i am tooo

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when did he say that

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link it

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he said i quote

2019-11-18 17:28:02 UTC

i believe in god AND the big bang

2019-11-18 17:28:05 UTC

oh, sorry! I was raised Christian, but I consider myself more of a pantheist.

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not christianity

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ha i am right and you are rong!โ€™n

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Aight

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i am too smart for my own good

2019-11-18 17:28:31 UTC

its not about you though ten

2019-11-18 17:28:40 UTC

ok

2019-11-18 17:28:50 UTC

true or false perhaps

2019-11-18 17:28:54 UTC

Pantheist in what way? Hindu? Old Hebrew? Kemetic? Germanic?

2019-11-18 17:28:55 UTC

it just seems a little like blind faith in some cases

2019-11-18 17:28:56 UTC

not all

2019-11-18 17:29:01 UTC

@TheBiscuitMuncher Yeah but Christians who claim to believe in the big bang aren't real Christians for obvious reasons

2019-11-18 17:30:09 UTC

thats ironic

2019-11-18 17:30:40 UTC

what is?

2019-11-18 17:30:43 UTC

@RadRhys I don't know the history behind it, so I'm not sure, but I think maybe God *IS* the energy that makes up the universe. I think that if God exists, "He's" not anthropomorphic; He's beyond understanding or relating to.

2019-11-18 17:31:06 UTC

the big bang is not proven, and youre bringing up somebody else having blind faith

2019-11-18 17:31:08 UTC

Thatโ€™s inherent for all metaphysical deities, drewski

2019-11-18 17:31:17 UTC

but we accept it as a theory

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not as a fact

2019-11-18 17:31:22 UTC

that's not blind faith

2019-11-18 17:31:23 UTC

Nothing can be objectively proven

2019-11-18 17:31:27 UTC

exactly

2019-11-18 17:31:35 UTC

Theories are often considered fact, Fred

2019-11-18 17:31:44 UTC

yes, but the fact is that they're not

2019-11-18 17:31:47 UTC

they're theories

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and by definition, a theory isn't a fact

2019-11-18 17:31:58 UTC

so then youre on equal footing with a christian then

2019-11-18 17:32:04 UTC

not really

2019-11-18 17:32:07 UTC

yeah

2019-11-18 17:32:07 UTC

Theories require testing, observations, etc.

2019-11-18 17:32:27 UTC

"Redshifting" big bang must be real ๐Ÿคช

2019-11-18 17:32:31 UTC

observe the big bang, show me the evidence please

2019-11-18 17:32:39 UTC

You canโ€™t test, observe, or otherwise extrapolate a metaphysical entity

2019-11-18 17:32:54 UTC

we're not telling you it's 100% proven

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so now youre talking metaphysics

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it's not

2019-11-18 17:33:04 UTC

You donโ€™t need to directly observe the Big Bang, remember the conversation about cause and effect?

2019-11-18 17:33:20 UTC

but many christians simply have "faith"

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which isn't enough for me

2019-11-18 17:33:24 UTC

religion is the metaphysics, hello

2019-11-18 17:33:26 UTC

the law of causality and the big bang conflict

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Heli*

2019-11-18 17:33:34 UTC

another reason to trash the big bang

2019-11-18 17:34:03 UTC

trying to claim things are random shows that you dont know about science, no offense

2019-11-18 17:34:49 UTC

That simultaneously implies nothing happened before the Big Bang and that the Big Bang happened without reason

2019-11-18 17:35:16 UTC

youre stuck on thinking a big bang happened

2019-11-18 17:35:44 UTC

I never even made the claim that it happened throughout this entire conversation

2019-11-18 17:35:57 UTC

RadRhysToday at 11:34 AM
That simultaneously implies nothing happened before the Big Bang and that the Big Bang happened without reason

2019-11-18 17:36:00 UTC

for example

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so you just bold faced lied

2019-11-18 17:36:16 UTC

i never said that it was 100% proven, and that i believed it without question

2019-11-18 17:36:23 UTC

The CMB is excellent observable evidence for the Big Bang.

2019-11-18 17:36:29 UTC

No I did not, thatโ€™s not an assertion of the Big Bang

2019-11-18 17:36:42 UTC

its in your own words rad

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copy/paste

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And where does it imply or explicitly mention that the Big Bang happened?

2019-11-18 17:37:21 UTC

RadRhysToday at 11:34 AM
That simultaneously implies nothing happened before the Big Bang and that the Big Bang happened without reason

2019-11-18 17:37:34 UTC

Itโ€™s treated as a given, because thatโ€™s literally what this conversation is about

2019-11-18 17:37:42 UTC

No assertion was made

2019-11-18 17:37:51 UTC

Youโ€™re moving the topic

2019-11-18 17:38:03 UTC

The big bang should have been put in the mainstream trash can the moment it was purposed

2019-11-18 17:38:04 UTC

the premise of your position is that the big bang happened

2019-11-18 17:38:27 UTC

im not trying to move the topic, i disagree with you

2019-11-18 17:38:39 UTC

Thatโ€™s literally what the conversation is about, heli

2019-11-18 17:38:47 UTC
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theres this thing where people can disagree

2019-11-18 17:39:00 UTC

Btw I gotta drive to clasd in less than 5 minutes so thatโ€™s how long yโ€™all have

2019-11-18 17:39:21 UTC

youve been arguing for that and randomness

2019-11-18 17:39:36 UTC

now youre telling me i cant disagree with you

2019-11-18 17:39:48 UTC

i can mute you for trolling like a mofo

2019-11-18 17:39:48 UTC

No such claim was made

2019-11-18 17:39:56 UTC

No idea where youโ€™re getting that from

2019-11-18 17:40:05 UTC

You can mute me but it wouldnโ€™t be for trolling

2019-11-18 17:40:24 UTC

@Ronin Reasons already shared in this channel in the last few minutes

2019-11-18 17:40:24 UTC

you accused me of moving the conversation because i disagree with you

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