not really

yeah

Theories require testing, observations, etc.

"Redshifting" big bang must be real 🤪

observe the big bang, show me the evidence please

You can’t test, observe, or otherwise extrapolate a metaphysical entity

we're not telling you it's 100% proven

so now youre talking metaphysics

it's not

You don’t need to directly observe the Big Bang, remember the conversation about cause and effect?

but many christians simply have "faith"

which isn't enough for me

religion is the metaphysics, hello

the law of causality and the big bang conflict

Heli*

another reason to trash the big bang

trying to claim things are random shows that you dont know about science, no offense

That simultaneously implies nothing happened before the Big Bang and that the Big Bang happened without reason

youre stuck on thinking a big bang happened

I never even made the claim that it happened throughout this entire conversation

RadRhysToday at 11:34 AM
That simultaneously implies nothing happened before the Big Bang and that the Big Bang happened without reason

for example

so you just bold faced lied

i never said that it was 100% proven, and that i believed it without question

The CMB is excellent observable evidence for the Big Bang.

No I did not, that’s not an assertion of the Big Bang

its in your own words rad

copy/paste

And where does it imply or explicitly mention that the Big Bang happened?

RadRhysToday at 11:34 AM
That simultaneously implies nothing happened before the Big Bang and that the Big Bang happened without reason

It’s treated as a given, because that’s literally what this conversation is about

No assertion was made

You’re moving the topic

The big bang should have been put in the mainstream trash can the moment it was purposed

the premise of your position is that the big bang happened

im not trying to move the topic, i disagree with you

That’s literally what the conversation is about, heli

@floridaswamptrash why

theres this thing where people can disagree

Btw I gotta drive to clasd in less than 5 minutes so that’s how long y’all have

youve been arguing for that and randomness