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2019-11-11 18:13:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Hello

2019-11-11 19:37:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

I have a question, if gravity isn't real what accelerates us towards the earth?

2019-11-11 19:37:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

And if it's the earth accelerating wouldn't it eventually have a velocity faster tna light Wich is impossible?

2019-11-11 22:03:15 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Can anyone debate my pints?

2019-11-11 22:05:11 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I have a question, if gravity isn't real what accelerates us towards the earth?

2019-11-11 22:05:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

And if it's the earth accelerating wouldn't it eventually have a velocity faster tna light Wich is impossible?

2019-11-11 22:28:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

That doesn't even debate my question

2019-11-11 22:28:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It completely ignores it and class it irrelevant, which it is not

2019-11-12 03:21:29 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

oakheart do you have any living clue what a theory means in science?

2019-11-12 20:42:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Hi

2019-11-12 20:44:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

@CryptoCypher the angle of refraction of the window is very close to that of air, meaning that the distortion that you speak of negligible, and photos and views seen through it are deemed accurate

2019-11-12 20:47:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Crypto I'll admit I made a mistake in my explination

2019-11-12 20:48:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

But when light passes from air to glass it refracts by 37 degrees , when it leaves it refracts back to it's original path

2019-11-12 20:49:46 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Although the glass is curved it is not a lense

2019-11-12 20:49:56 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Maybe you should research lense desing

2019-11-12 20:50:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Design

2019-11-12 20:50:26 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Cause if you do you will realize your claim is false

2019-11-12 20:52:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Fredward that isn't the effect

2019-11-12 20:52:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

The curve is the same on both sides

2019-11-12 20:53:01 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

The change of angle is constant

2019-11-12 20:53:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Meaning no distortion like you speak of

2019-11-12 20:54:02 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Think of water in a glass, the glass is curved. If you look at a straw in the water through the glass the straw is still straight

2019-11-12 20:54:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Or it is larger

2019-11-12 20:54:29 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Meaning that the glass causes a linear transformation to the image

2019-11-12 20:54:37 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Not a nonlinear one like you suggest

2019-11-12 20:55:08 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Physics is hard

2019-11-12 20:55:16 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It's usually in intuitive

2019-11-12 20:55:53 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

What's your counter

2019-11-12 21:03:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Crypto how did the experiment go

2019-11-12 21:04:06 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

What are you reading

2019-11-12 21:04:14 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Ahh

2019-11-12 21:04:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Well the windows from end is concave, and the other is convex

2019-11-12 21:05:48 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

When light enters the convex side it bends x degrees in one direction, when it exits through the concave side the light bends x degrees but in the opposite direction

2019-11-12 21:06:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Meaning that the net changein angle is 0

2019-11-12 21:06:36 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Note there can be magnification , but that is a linear transformation

2019-11-12 21:06:51 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Which doesn't distort

2019-11-12 21:10:16 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

So the view from airplanes is legitimate

2019-11-12 21:10:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

So there is a curve

2019-11-12 21:10:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Does a flat Earth predict that curve?

2019-11-12 21:14:44 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Okay?

2019-11-12 21:14:52 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

That talks about the formation of glass

2019-11-12 21:15:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Not the way light flows through it

2019-11-12 21:15:06 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Yes

2019-11-12 21:15:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Of the glass

2019-11-12 21:15:16 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Not the properties of it's optics

2019-11-12 21:16:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

On the orders of micromillimeter s

2019-11-12 21:16:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

And it would flex uniformly from the concave to the convex side

2019-11-12 21:17:15 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Okay hold up

2019-11-12 21:17:18 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

You saying

2019-11-12 21:17:53 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

That deformation of the shape when it's formed means that it's optical properties change

2019-11-12 21:20:27 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

The arrival as before mentioned speaks of the mechanical properties if the glass, it speaks nothing of it's optical properties

2019-11-12 21:20:34 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Which is what we are debating

2019-11-12 21:21:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

So not only are you moving the goal post, you are inaccurate ly extroplating what the arrival says to apply to optical properties

2019-11-12 21:23:33 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Arrival*

2019-11-12 21:23:39 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Article*

2019-11-12 21:26:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

*the proof is trivial and left to the user*

2019-11-12 21:27:21 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

But in all seriousness even a quick look at optics on Wikipedia will tell you this

2019-11-12 21:28:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Or actually for scientific and mathematical pages it's very accurate

2019-11-12 21:28:38 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

People are constantly fixing it and checking sources

2019-11-12 21:29:05 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Okay

2019-11-12 21:29:26 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Any book on optics used for any college class in the past half century

2019-11-12 21:31:29 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It's in that book

2019-11-12 21:31:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Yeah

2019-11-12 21:31:34 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Lemme delete it

2019-11-12 21:32:00 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Proof for what exactly

2019-11-12 21:34:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Okay

2019-11-12 21:34:40 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Get a piece of plastic wrap

2019-11-12 21:34:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Put it in a box

2019-11-12 21:35:15 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It's translucent and deforms with change in pressurr

2019-11-12 21:35:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

That's the properties we are stesting

2019-11-12 21:35:37 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Testing

2019-11-12 21:37:15 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Ugg

2019-11-12 21:42:57 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Glass doesn't deform from pressure

2019-11-12 21:43:00 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It shatters

2019-11-12 21:44:07 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Then why would you use a source talking about deformations in the structure of glass

2019-11-12 21:44:11 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

As proof

2019-11-12 21:44:26 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

You just disporovved one of your previous points

2019-11-12 21:45:46 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

IT said GLASS

2019-11-12 21:46:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

And my claims apply to any transparent material

2019-11-12 21:46:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I use using glass as an example

2019-11-12 21:46:27 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

And youve said glass as well

2019-11-12 21:46:33 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

You only posted 1

2019-11-12 21:48:00 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Where is the link for that source

2019-11-12 21:49:06 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Of what?

2019-11-12 21:53:27 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Your moving the goal post and it's driving me nuts

2019-11-12 21:54:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I had to prove their was no non linear deformation of the light

2019-11-12 21:54:51 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Now I have to prove that under static stress

2019-11-12 21:55:56 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

If the deformation was enough to cause a sigficant and acknowledgable deformation to the light you would have died flying the airplane

2019-11-12 21:58:20 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

The other factors are negligible

2019-11-12 21:58:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

And are therefore ignored

2019-11-12 21:59:11 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

If they weren't negligible they would've included them in this beautiful source of you

2019-11-12 21:59:14 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Yours

2019-11-12 22:00:05 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I told you a simple experiment you could peform

2019-11-12 22:00:17 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

That is proof

2019-11-12 22:03:18 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I was debating laws of optics

2019-11-12 22:04:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

The light going through the window experiences a linear deformation

2019-11-12 22:04:45 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

You know what a linear transformation deformation is right?

2019-11-12 22:04:53 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Right?

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