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2018-11-13 02:11:27 UTC [The Ice Wall #members-log]  

2018-11-13 03:11:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

^ Simple fe debunk.

2018-11-13 03:22:33 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

This is based off of the fe model

2018-11-13 03:22:56 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

Each one ive seen

2018-11-13 03:23:08 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

has antarctica around the entire world

2018-11-13 03:23:40 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

then what makes a guess better than hundreds of years of science

2018-11-13 03:25:40 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

doesn't really matter who. the fact that each part of antarctica on a map is visit-able, shows it's not incorrect

2018-11-13 03:25:51 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

literally anyone can go to antarctica by themselves.

2018-11-13 03:26:31 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

what is shown on a globe map.

2018-11-13 03:27:21 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

anyone can go to antarctica and find out

2018-11-13 03:27:26 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

therefore it isnt hidden

2018-11-13 03:27:56 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  


2018-11-13 03:28:07 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

yes, though not recommended.

2018-11-13 03:28:19 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

how am i lying xd

2018-11-13 03:28:27 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

literally anyone can buy a plane and take a trip.

2018-11-13 03:28:36 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

what's stopping me?

2018-11-13 03:29:19 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

are you talking about commercial planes?

2018-11-13 03:30:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

not sure, but that isn't exactly the point.

2018-11-13 03:30:31 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

yes, i have

2018-11-13 03:31:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

the antarctic treaty doesnt stop anyone

2018-11-13 03:31:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  


2018-11-13 03:31:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

i already read through it

2018-11-13 03:32:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

personally owned boats?

2018-11-13 03:32:59 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

if you specifically are manning the boat, and go to a certain place using a globe map

2018-11-13 03:33:05 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

you would be landing in the wrong place

2018-11-13 03:34:15 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

says the antarctic treaty?

2018-11-13 03:36:01 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

just googled the antarctic commission, nothing pops up thats related

2018-11-13 03:45:01 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

"If you had a good enough boat and provisions, no-ones going to stop you sailing there and exploring it yourself, in fact, one area named Marie Byrd Land isn't even claimed yet, so you may stake your own there."

2018-11-13 03:46:44 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

in the entirety of antarctica?

2018-11-13 03:48:15 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

don't you think people would know this then?

2018-11-13 03:48:36 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

if everyone is saying all you need is a good boat and provisions

2018-11-13 03:48:45 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

people would be going there, and debunking it

2018-11-13 03:48:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

and expecting to roam freely

2018-11-13 03:49:44 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

if everyone is saying you can roam freely, then people would go there expecting to roam freely, learn that they cant, and massively debunk this

2018-11-13 03:50:53 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

the fact that the coast of antarctica isn't stretching around every land mass

2018-11-13 03:51:00 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

and has the largest land mass perimeter

2018-11-13 03:51:05 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

disproves fe

2018-11-13 03:51:26 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

this is a debate channel

2018-11-13 03:51:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

pretty much

2018-11-14 06:32:27 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

If you were to explode a nuke into space, it would act as an EMP across the US and kill around 85% of America in 10 years.

2018-11-14 06:32:40 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Due to the EMP alone

2018-11-14 16:54:09 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

About this picture, this isn't CGI. It just faded out and faded in a couple seconds later.

2018-11-14 16:54:53 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

That's why the black thing on the left also fades then teleports a couple seconds ahead of where it was going.

2018-11-14 17:02:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

Also the fact that if the "CGI" or whatevs you want to call it, is showing the man going through the door, there would be no reason to stop this and instead fade the man out of existence.

2018-11-14 17:08:02 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Astronauts put a retroreflector on the moon so anyone with a high powered laser could shoot it at the retroreflector would have the laser bounce back to earth.
Pretty sure it still stands on the moon to this day.

2018-11-14 17:29:46 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

Oh, should I post this in <#484534825341157388>?

2018-11-15 04:19:52 UTC [The Ice Wall #members-log]  

2018-11-15 14:55:51 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Yeah, I really can't stand the trolling rules. People really have saturated the meaning of "trolling" so much to ban whoever they don't like.

2018-11-15 14:58:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Bustr, Mutt, and Griefer trolls are hardly trolls, they're just being a general asshole.
And some of these "trolling" types are there purely to let staff abuse without taking criticism, like "concern troll".

2018-11-15 15:04:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

A lot of these aren't trolls tbh

2018-11-15 18:12:40 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

"If you cannot take criticism, then it can only mean you have no respect for them"

2018-11-15 18:14:27 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

You're focused on the fact that I'm mildly concerned, not about *why* I'm concerned. Obviously, I'm concerned for a reason. So I don't see a reason to get angry

2018-11-15 18:14:38 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  


2018-11-15 18:16:54 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

If you take personal offense to things put in <#484513575801454593> then you must personally be tied with the guidelines in there.
And it's just fucking rules and I'm giving criticism, quit baby raging...

2018-11-15 20:00:57 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

^ Space isn't fake. You can see each planet, the moon in very high detail (including craters), and satellites using a telescope, and astroauts put a retroreflector (kinda like a mirror) on the moon so anyone with a high powered laser can shoot it at the retroreflector and hive it bounce back to Earth.

2018-11-15 20:02:16 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I don't need sources. Anyone can buy a telescope or a high powered laser.

2018-11-15 20:20:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

""Here's what I think troll"" Disagreeing with most of the things your opponent says isn't trolling. If I think the earth is a globe and someone else thinks the earth is a disk, then obviously we're going to disagree about most things.
"Amazon troll" Expressing a disliking of someone or something isn't trolling. Unless it's senseless rapid insults that is clearly intented to be trolling.
"Bustr troll" Not even a type of troll. It's just someone who's holding a grudge.
"Mutt troll" Also not a type of troll. It's someone who holds a grudge *and* gossips.
"Concern troll" When I googled the definition, it even pointed out that it's mis-used so often, and it is. Basically, if a staff bans or mutes someome for eating Froot Loops and not Fuity Pebbles, if anyone says it's abuse, they cry "conCErN tRolL1!11" and ban them aswell to cover themselves.
"Persistent Debate troll" I think this just describes someone who people don't like. Thinking you're right and everyone else is wrong isn't trolling, otherwise every flat earther would be trolling society. And trying to get the last message also isn't trolling, it's just a cringe thing people do when they try to win arguments.

2018-11-15 20:53:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  


2018-11-15 21:07:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

To what?

2018-11-15 21:10:01 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

You said 'maybe a divine reason'

2018-11-15 21:10:26 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Wait, are you a flat earther or no? Im confused

2018-11-15 21:15:01 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I don't really believe in a god that much, but im not really athiest. When i die ill find out.
I mostly don't believe in a creator because evolution is pretty apparent even today, and churches were used to scam people for thousands of dollars until Martin Luther wrote about it.

2018-11-15 21:17:18 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Also how the Bible is the #1 sold book in america I'm pretty sure. It's a money driven world, i would really not be surprised if god didn't exist.

2018-11-16 02:25:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

OML dude.

I said clearly that *anyone* can use a high powered laser, shoot it at the retro-reflector on the moon and have it bounce back to Earth. Pretty hard to hide the fact that there is no retro-reflector when you tell millions of people that you can all shoot a high powered laser at the reflector on the moon and have the laser bounce back.

The craters on the moon being caused by impacts is a more reasonable stance than "i don't know". And the craters are caused by impacts, as we *have* been to the moon, and the reflector is there to prove it.

2018-11-16 02:25:15 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Planets aren't just lights as they're not emitting light, and you can clearly see each planet with a telescope. You can see Jupiter's ring and its red spot clear as day through a telescope.

Satellites aren't just things flying above us, you can clearly see each part of the satellite, and even predict their orbit. There are countless guides by normal people with telescopes on how to see satellites with a telescope. Anyone with a telescope can see satellites and predict their orbit. And as it is a telescope, you can vividly see each part of the satellite because of how zoomed-in it is.

The fact that satellites are clearly observable by millions of people, including yourself, in orbit *due to gravity* and anyone can buy a high powered laser and shoot it at the retro-reflector proves the Earth is a globe, and that we have been to space. If this isn't enough evidence for you, then you are undeniably in a belief system, and I really can't help you. I won't judge if you change your mind, it's just switching a view.

2018-11-16 02:26:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

^ Was trying to copy-paste what the bot deleted

2018-11-16 04:16:40 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Ok, so your claim is there is no reflector that can bounce lasers on the moon.

2018-11-16 04:16:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

If so I would hold you to that.

2018-11-16 04:17:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Telescopes aren't a fortune.

2018-11-16 04:17:30 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

The fact that people *can* buy a telescope makes it not impossible.

2018-11-16 04:17:51 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

If they really wanted to hide this, they wouldn't allow the selling of telescopes.

2018-11-16 04:18:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

That doesn't mean no one can.

2018-11-16 04:18:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Telescopes aren't that expensive anyways

2018-11-16 04:19:18 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I don't get why this matters. You're acting as if telescopes are artifacts impossible to obtain.

2018-11-16 04:20:39 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

If you're really going to sit here and say that NASA told everyone that they put a reflector on the moon that can bounce back high powered lasers and encouraged people to do so, when they didn't, that not one of the 7 billion+ people on earth has debunked this.

2018-11-16 04:21:16 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Satellites aren't everywhere

2018-11-16 04:21:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Just read a guide

2018-11-16 04:21:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

There are several from people who have seen them.

2018-11-16 04:21:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

You do realize that that's the entire planet right

2018-11-16 04:22:00 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

And not the pin point you're standing on.

2018-11-16 04:22:33 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

You can go out and buy a high powered laser and shoot it at the retro-reflector right now and debunk your entire conspiracy belief.

2018-11-16 04:22:53 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

*Makes a debate room*

2018-11-16 04:23:07 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  


2018-11-16 04:23:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Then save up for one. If you can buy a car and a house, you can save up enough money to buy a laser and debunk a global conspiracy.

2018-11-16 04:24:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Refusing to debunk yourself.

2018-11-16 04:24:08 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

You're in a belief system.

2018-11-16 04:24:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I really can't help you dude

2018-11-16 04:24:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Yes, and you can see it too.

2018-11-16 04:24:54 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

But you refuse, of course.

2018-11-16 04:25:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Ok, are you simply saying it is physically impossible to buy a high powered laser, shoot it at the moon and have it bounce back to earth?

2018-11-16 04:25:45 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Yes or no.

2018-11-16 04:26:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Yes or no.

2018-11-16 04:26:19 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I'm literally asking you if there is a reflector on the moon

2018-11-16 04:26:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I'm asking you to. I know it's there.

2018-11-16 04:27:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Do you still have the telescope?

2018-11-16 04:27:34 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Do you still have the telescope?

2018-11-16 04:29:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

If so, read a guide on how to find satellites using a telescope, and even how to predict their orbit. You're believing that there is 7 billion+ people in this world and not one single person has ever found out that there is no reflector, and that the millions who have used the reflector are all NASA secret agents.

2018-11-16 04:29:16 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

So it really is an irrational belief system

2018-11-16 04:36:31 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I didnt say billions saw it

2018-11-16 04:36:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I said there are 7 billion+ people alive

2018-11-16 05:52:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I gave several ways you can prove to yourself that we've been to space and that there is orbit from gravity, but I guess that isn't enough. Logic really never is enough.

2018-11-16 18:23:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Citizen and reesey have been raping rule 15 for quite a while

2018-11-16 22:05:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

Just saw your post thing, by "teleports" I mean both the man and the black thing that's slightly moving upwards on the very left of the screen both fade out, then fade in around 4 seconds ahead.

2018-11-16 22:08:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

It looks like the man is CGI, or whatever graphical thing this is referring to, because the space station is stationary, no pun intended, but the man and the little black object on the left are not, they're moving. So it looks as though the man is the only thing being "graphically manipulated". Also, talk about zooming-in to get an angle out of context.

2018-11-17 00:33:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

W o a h, that's astonishingly amazing argument. Just claim I'm wrong and that I'm brain washed.

2018-11-17 00:33:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  


2018-11-17 00:34:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

It fades out the clip and fades in further in time. When the man is through the door and the small black object is higher up.

2018-11-17 00:34:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

This isn't complicated.

2018-11-17 00:34:52 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

Yes, by fading out and fading in...

2018-11-17 00:35:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

Jesus christ dude, I'm explaining this simply.

2018-11-17 00:35:21 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

*Fade out, fade in*

2018-11-17 00:35:55 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

With common sense you can simply have the thought that there is no reason to make the man vanish.

2018-11-17 00:36:40 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

Not sure what this gif is supposed to be, but ok

2018-11-17 00:38:09 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

It's a blurry one second gif of a satellite looking object, I cant tell what it's supposed to show cause im brainwashed

2018-11-17 00:38:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  


2018-11-17 00:38:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  


2018-11-17 00:38:41 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

Balls are flat confirmed

2018-11-17 00:39:00 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

Look, no curvature

2018-11-17 00:39:09 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

I was brainwashed all along!

2018-11-17 00:40:09 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

No curvature?

2018-11-17 00:40:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

Basketballs have bumps

2018-11-17 00:40:27 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  


2018-11-17 00:40:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

It even says it's bumpy

2018-11-17 00:40:52 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

There is no curving downwards

2018-11-17 00:40:57 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

Must be flat.

2018-11-17 00:41:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

I don't think youve ever held a basketball

2018-11-17 00:41:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #art-gallery]  

There are small bumbs on them.

2019-02-04 04:36:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #members-log]  

2019-02-04 04:51:38 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

If the moon is thousands of miles up, why can we see the moon in daytime even through the entire atmosphere, but the world record for farthest distance seen is, I think 275 miles?

2019-02-04 04:54:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

If we can't see infinitely far on a flat Earth due to debris, humidity, etc... why can we see craters on the moon in daytime using telescopes when the moon is at least a thousand miles up, but we can hardly see over 250 miles looking straight even when using telescopes?

Why would it unite the planet?

At most, countries would just be forced to be better allies

against the "invasion"

also, they would literally never do that

That would literally cause global panic. All countries uniting into one, alien invasion, discovery of aliens that could kill humans, etc... would cause panic

Which is counter-intuitive

2019-02-06 05:37:44 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Do flat earthers have an explanation for why there is a Southern polar star but no South pole on any flat Earth models?

2019-02-06 14:00:00 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

From that very last image, im guessing that's supposed to be a globe and the lines are showing the star trails

2019-02-06 14:01:06 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Those are straight lines from that perspective, but that isn't the same perspective of the stars that we have standing on Earth.

2019-02-06 14:04:07 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

The lines are straight from the perspective of, let's say, floating in space away from Earth with the stars that close, but from the perspective of being on Earth, you can see the lines from the trails, and the ones away from your near center vision, about to the left and right, let's say the north and south poles were to the left and right, are visibly circles and not straight lines.

2019-02-06 14:04:31 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It's hard to explain, and is mostly visual

2019-02-06 14:10:30 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I explained that poorly, but a better version is that it's like hula hoops. If you have a hula hoop and hold it out towards you perfectly horizontally, it can look like a straight line. But when you raise the hula hoop above your head, it's a circle.

If there were an alien invasion, theyd get wiped out by our alien bacteria in minutes.

2019-02-06 23:04:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Those images of the stars aren't looking straight up, and one of them is using a wide angled lense

2019-02-06 23:05:30 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

If you used a regular lense and positioned your camera so that the stars were completely vertical, they would be straight

2019-02-06 23:07:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

How straight, for each trail to be straight?

2019-02-06 23:09:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Ima eat then brb

2019-02-07 03:01:53 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Ok, now I get what you're saying.
The photo at 4:53 is using a wide angled lens I think, but the other photos, that's just how it would look on a spinning ball. The star trails you made on paper would look like straight lines, but that isn't the perspective people take photos from on Earth. If you drew the star trails *on* the ball, not away from it, then the stars would curve away from the equator because those stars aren't on the equator. Only the stars on the equator make straight lines.

2019-02-07 03:03:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Stars basically curve away from the equator because they aren't aligned with the equator, or not on the equator, so they're "trailing" but angled away from the equator

2019-02-07 03:04:08 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It's hard to explain because it's mostly visual, but try drawing it from the perspective of being on the ball, and it would do the same thing.

2019-02-07 05:39:21 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Im not talking about the perspective formula or whatevs, Im talking about the angle at which you look at something

2019-02-07 05:40:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

From the angle you drew on paper, the lines are straight. From the perspective of standing *on* the ball, it would look the same as in the photos.

2019-02-07 05:40:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

You're drawing the star trails from a different perspective than the actual photos

2019-02-07 06:30:14 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

yeh, same reason why a southern polar star is impossible on a flat Earth yet it exists

anyone up for fortnite dame tu cosita theory

its that dame tu cosita and his sister crafted pickaxes all the way to fortnite to tell the government to stop making diamond hoes

2019-02-07 20:23:18 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

The government has nothing to do with peer review

2019-02-07 20:23:53 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Several independant sources study autism and find each time that it runs in the family, or is genetic

2019-02-07 20:24:08 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

And theyre independant from the government

2019-02-07 20:28:05 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Are there any tests done to prove vaccines dont work besides the government is shilling?

2019-02-07 20:28:31 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Can you share some

2019-02-07 20:29:06 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Just make a statement without the evidence then

2019-02-07 20:29:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Like "vaccines have this in them"

2019-02-07 20:30:52 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

How does a liquid cause autism?

2019-02-07 20:30:55 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Like... wut

2019-02-07 20:32:01 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Jesus christ lmao

2019-02-07 20:35:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Z, do you think autism is at all genetic?

2019-02-07 20:36:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Battle he sent like 100 linke lel

2019-02-07 20:37:15 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Yeah, but billions are vaccinated, also i think some people are allergic to the vaccine

2019-02-07 20:39:05 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Z, the same way you cant convince people that vaccines are bad, is the same way i cant convince you the earth is spherical. Its the same for everyone

2019-02-07 20:41:40 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Im willing to read stuff if its 1 link and not 100.

2019-02-07 20:43:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I think some people have allergic reactions to vaccines. Saw an anti vaxxer who had a reaction to a band aid

2019-02-07 20:45:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I would just like to say that autism causes lots of things to happen in the brain, I dont think a liquid could cause so many specific things to happen

2019-02-07 20:46:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Ima go waste time to die quicker cya

2019-02-08 15:33:15 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Flat earthers are very different from globe earthers, so globe earthers just want to debate them or see why they believe the earth is flat.

2019-02-08 15:45:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Id like to speak about the space being fake thing though.
We can see Jupiter and Saturn with its rings in the sky using telescopes. Flat earthers always say theyre just lights, but the planets are seen reflecting light, not emitting light.
We can see Jupiter's moons orbitting Jupiter and creating solar eclipses on Jupiter as the moons block out light from the Sun. The globe model even predicts when the next triple solar eclipse will happen on Jupiter, and this is all observable through telescopes.
The next triple solar eclipse on Jupiter is December 30, 2032.

2019-02-10 13:20:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Globebusters did an experiment with a ring laser gyroscope and calculated that if the Earth were a spinning ball, the Earth would rotate 15 degrees per hour, therefore the gyro would drift 15 degrees per hour, and it did.
They then put the gyro in a Zero Guass Chamber to remove any "heavenly energies" as a factor, and it still drifted.

2019-02-10 13:41:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I was going to keep going, but the 0 deaths from measles and 108 deaths from vaccines thing... really? Before I even start with this, it says "Deaths in the U.S. during the past 10 years" yet it says "2004 - 2015" which is 11 years. So which is it?
Since their using both 10 and 11, I'll average that out to 10.5 and divide 108 by that amount, which is 10.2.

So you're telling me that they made a vaccine industry costing billions of dollars to kill around 10 people out of the 325 million people in America a year? Amazing. Let's all get diseases because of this.

2019-02-10 16:55:45 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

You posted about 266 links, this is shotgun argumentation at its worst.

2019-02-10 16:57:17 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I was making my argument solely off of the anti-vax picture

2019-02-10 17:00:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I never actually asked questions, I just directly responded to that one anti vax picture

2019-02-10 17:04:51 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Someone died from measles in 2015 in california

2019-02-11 12:35:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Can people have perms to post images here?

2019-02-11 13:14:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Ill just post it in <#484515645258596369>

2019-02-11 13:14:54 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Nvm, no perms there either

2019-02-11 13:15:51 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I drew a picture of why the star trails diverge from the equatorial star trail, if you wanna see it then just ask

2019-02-11 20:21:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

The only news I know is of the government shutdown. I dont watch the news because 1. Boring. 2. Could be yellow journalism. 3. If it's important enough, I'll hear about it without watching the news, like the gov. shutdown.

2019-02-11 20:23:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I just wanted to test that

2019-02-11 20:23:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  


2019-02-11 20:24:26 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

This is a visualization of the star trails and why they diverge from the equatorial star trail.

2019-02-11 20:25:52 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Im pretty sure the heart is on the left side

2019-02-11 20:26:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

How so?

2019-02-11 20:26:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It's about the exact same

2019-02-11 20:41:21 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It's impossible for a curved star strail, like a star trail near a polar star, to be a straight line while far to the left/right of your FOV

2019-02-11 20:42:20 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It's like holding a hula hoop out in front of you vertically and seeing a straight line, then moving it to the right and still seeing a straight line and not an arc towards your middle FOV

2019-02-11 20:46:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It's an analogy

2019-02-11 20:46:51 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Like, try imagining that image you drew with the straight lines over my image, but with the northern and souther polar stars

2019-02-11 20:47:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

To the left and right

2019-02-11 20:53:39 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Its impossible to always get straight lines besides near the equator since eventually the lines will have to shrink in size

2019-02-11 20:53:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Like this

2019-02-11 20:53:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  


2019-02-11 20:54:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

And become the polar stars and the tiny circles around them, slowly making them circles and not straight lines

2019-02-11 20:56:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

That middle line represents the star trail at the equator btw

2019-02-12 20:04:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

The child chooses to be

2019-02-12 20:04:51 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

No kid is becoming trans unless they want to

2019-02-12 20:05:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Becoming trans isnt even sexual

2019-02-12 20:05:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It was sexual because it was sexual, not because they were trans

2019-02-12 20:05:56 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

What is wrong with being trans exactly?

2019-02-12 20:06:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Why? It's not hurting anyone.

2019-02-12 20:07:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Idk anything about politics, so

2019-02-12 20:09:29 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

This is sharp shooter fallacy tbh, you're taking an event where kids were wrongly sexualized and saying that means all transgender kids are sexualized.

2019-02-12 20:09:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

k 1 sec

2019-02-12 20:19:36 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

School is always useless

2019-02-12 20:20:14 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Pre-k to 7th is useful, then it's just wasting your time until youre 18

2019-02-12 20:25:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Peper, I think that's sharpshooter fallacy

2019-02-12 20:30:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Most people I see in my schools can hardly write a decent essay

2019-02-12 20:32:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Can I switch to flat/globe stuff, because I think I have 2 things that debunk flat Earth

2019-02-12 20:33:53 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

"Geography: Define latitude and longtitude" jesus christ

2019-02-12 20:51:56 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Sexualizing kids is wrong, but idk what trans people in general have ever done to you 🀷

2019-02-13 17:02:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  


2019-02-13 17:02:59 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Its vague on purpose, so just think about it or google it

2019-02-24 20:19:14 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Fake card, kewl

2019-02-25 21:37:37 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

How hard is it to Google the meaning of words? I guess it's easier to stay wrong and use the "fake" card 24/7 isn't it.

2019-02-25 21:40:40 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Sex: "either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and most other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions."

Gender: "either of the two sexes (male and female), especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones. The term is also used more broadly to denote a range of identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female."

2019-02-25 21:41:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

There is no "redefining" the words when they're straight from the definitions.

2019-02-25 23:58:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Google the definitions. I admire your ability to pick and choose which facts are correct and which facts aren't, based on your beliefs.

2019-02-25 23:59:53 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Sex is biological. Gender is social. Hence, trans*gender*. You can redefine English words or decide they don't exist if you want.

2019-02-26 16:11:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Ill debate about the earth being a globe.

2019-02-26 16:11:27 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Im for globe

2019-02-26 16:11:37 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  


2019-02-26 19:43:07 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  


2019-02-26 19:43:26 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  


2019-02-26 19:43:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

There you go.

2019-02-26 20:01:29 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

This isn't about curvature, it's about how there is observably a south pole, which isn't on a flat earth.

2019-02-26 20:04:01 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

It's like I'm in 24/7 again.

2019-02-26 20:05:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

You can power tantrum about an hour long video, I don't really care. πŸ‘Œ πŸ‘‹

2019-02-26 20:07:40 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Actually why y'all were un-partnered from Flat Earth Society

2019-02-26 20:37:21 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I already sent the star trail photos, so.

2019-02-26 20:37:29 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Ignore them if you want.

2019-02-26 20:38:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

You made an irrelevant answer.

2019-02-26 20:43:48 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  


2019-02-26 20:44:05 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Whoever is saying buoyancy and density causes things to fall, stop.

2019-02-26 20:44:20 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It's an effect of things falling, not the cause.

2019-02-26 20:47:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Because in schools they teach you the melting temperature of unsaturated fats and how to make oragami DNA using crayons and paper in high school.

2019-02-27 21:39:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

The stars are light years away. If an object is light years away and even if you're moving really fast, does it appear to move? No. The further away something is, the more you (or it) has to move for it to actually appear to be moving.

2019-02-27 21:40:56 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  


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