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2018-10-30 23:37:27 UTC

An act of war with who

2018-10-30 23:37:36 UTC

An invading force?

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2018-10-31 00:36:32 UTC

didnt mexico already offer them asylum?

2018-10-31 00:36:38 UTC

theyre no longer fleeing from danger

2018-10-31 00:36:56 UTC

theyre economic migrants at this point

2018-10-31 02:32:43 UTC

Why would it be an act of war to shoot people who cross illegally many nations have done this for decades.

2018-10-31 02:34:06 UTC

And Mexico did offer them the opportunity to stay in Mexico so yeah they're not fleeing from danger, and I don't think they were from the get go. More like after the Bandits looted their home nations they took all the stuff and decided to migrate. The Caravan isn't exactly peaceful

2018-10-31 05:00:40 UTC

Honestly I was just cane here to see how dumb you are all. But after looking around for a minute you converted me to be even more of a leftist

2018-10-31 05:00:45 UTC

Fuck all of you

2018-10-31 07:45:29 UTC

@Deleted User not a act of war sorry, but a act of aggression

2018-10-31 07:46:09 UTC

arrest them and deport them back if you want, I fully support that. Killing them or wounding them? a violation of human rights

2018-10-31 10:32:11 UTC

anyway @Egoy @ @raqdog there are other examples other than the SU where socialism actually worked

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2018-10-31 11:29:19 UTC

btw good one bolsonaro

2018-10-31 11:41:59 UTC

Define 'works'

2018-10-31 11:43:59 UTC

where the lives of people have improved.

2018-10-31 11:44:15 UTC

this example is usually neglected, but it's sad how many people know it.

2018-10-31 11:44:54 UTC

Ahh ok. I agree, there are people who's lives improve because of socialism.

2018-10-31 11:45:16 UTC

yes and a lot

2018-10-31 11:45:32 UTC

But unfortunately, millions of people die and suffer as well

2018-10-31 11:45:42 UTC

a lot of people don't know other socialist states other than the SU as well

2018-10-31 11:45:54 UTC

there was one where I would personally go there and live there

2018-10-31 11:46:09 UTC

(if it still lived)

2018-10-31 11:46:42 UTC

Where is that

2018-10-31 11:46:52 UTC

Where was it

2018-10-31 11:46:53 UTC

revolutionary catalonia

2018-10-31 11:47:09 UTC

it was anarcho-syndicalist/anarcho-communist but still

2018-10-31 11:47:45 UTC

even George Orwell wrote about it.

2018-10-31 11:50:16 UTC

Ya. I think as an American, we don't focus too much on what's working where and when. We focus internally

2018-10-31 11:50:31 UTC

Well, America isn't the whole world

2018-10-31 11:51:09 UTC

Like for instance, other countries pay attention to our elections, and the average American had no idea what's going on elsewhere

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2018-10-31 11:52:21 UTC

i suggest you read up more on revolutionary catalonia on how socialism worked

2018-10-31 11:52:39 UTC

it was short lived because the facsists crushed them

2018-10-31 11:52:40 UTC

It's hardly much of the world at all. Just 300 million? Compared to 7 billion. That's 4%

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2018-10-31 11:52:55 UTC

but America is the big dog

2018-10-31 11:54:57 UTC

It's got a good business model that other countries want to copy. But as the big dog you have to keep your place by coercing other countries by force

2018-10-31 11:55:18 UTC

It's inevitable, no matter who is on top

2018-10-31 11:55:47 UTC

America will give way naturally

2018-10-31 11:55:47 UTC

If I was born in some other country, I'd have all sorts of issues with America and what they do to other countries

2018-10-31 11:55:54 UTC

the East will overtake the West.

2018-10-31 11:56:11 UTC

Oh yeah, but they will try to stay on top for as long as possible

2018-10-31 11:56:11 UTC

just as the Mongols and the Romans and the British gave way.

2018-10-31 11:56:28 UTC

Yeah, being on top is what makes you weak. No reason to strive

2018-10-31 11:56:30 UTC

@raqdog not gone be pretty when China or India is almost on par with them

2018-10-31 11:56:48 UTC

wonder what the Union would do to preserve its place

2018-10-31 11:57:42 UTC

Nope, they are coming. The cultures are so different. Kids in American elementary schools test somewhere around 25th or worse in math

2018-10-31 11:57:54 UTC

Compared to other 1st world countries

2018-10-31 11:58:12 UTC

But they score #1 in their confidence to do math

2018-10-31 11:58:40 UTC

In China it's the exact opposite. They test much higher in ability to do math, and Lower in confidence

2018-10-31 11:59:33 UTC

America is in it's dumbing down phase. We've got a very toxic and coddled culture.

2018-10-31 12:03:14 UTC

if you look at individual states you'll notice it can get way more competitive. Places like california are skewing it a lot. Still needs to be fixed after so many years of neglect by democrats.

2018-10-31 12:03:55 UTC

Gen Z is showing some hope, too. thankfully.

2018-10-31 12:20:09 UTC

the youth is the future, as always

2018-10-31 14:21:50 UTC

The youth is Hispanic which has a very different outlook on education

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2018-10-31 14:58:22 UTC

Democracy is the will of the people

2018-10-31 14:58:29 UTC

If the people willingly choose a dictator

2018-10-31 14:58:34 UTC

That is democracy

2018-10-31 15:00:28 UTC

so people collectively deciding on imposing nuclear suicide on the human race is equally democratic then

2018-10-31 15:00:54 UTC

That is an absurd scenario, but yes.

2018-10-31 15:01:11 UTC

If democracy is pure then whatever wins, wins.

2018-10-31 15:01:37 UTC

It isn't like the people of Brazil don't know who Bolsonaro is

2018-10-31 15:01:43 UTC

It is why they voted for him

2018-10-31 15:02:23 UTC

democracy in your context could not care about outcomes.

2018-10-31 15:02:40 UTC

again with the contextual example I used

2018-10-31 15:03:24 UTC

That is democracy in any context.

2018-10-31 15:03:30 UTC

It is what the definition is

2018-10-31 15:03:35 UTC

The will of the people

2018-10-31 15:08:55 UTC

the will of the people does not account for outcomes lol

2018-10-31 15:09:29 UTC

but obviously, we have some ounce of rationality in our society even with uneducateds in it, so that isn't happening

2018-10-31 15:11:36 UTC

That isn't democracy then

2018-10-31 15:11:49 UTC

Democracy includes the uneducated

2018-10-31 15:25:36 UTC

Pure democracy is dangerous, right? Why not let the smartest people in a Gaussian distribution make the decisions.

2018-10-31 15:26:14 UTC

2 standard deviations above the rest only

2018-10-31 15:27:18 UTC

IQ doesn't inherently make people decent human beings

2018-10-31 15:27:29 UTC

That's dangerous too, but a better alternative

2018-10-31 15:29:05 UTC

No, it doesn't. But you don't want the decision makers to be too morally inflated.

2018-10-31 15:30:07 UTC

I dunno where to find a balance. Probably the way the US does it, we have a good balance of cold hard truth and coddling ourselves like infants

2018-10-31 15:30:54 UTC

The US is far from a democracy

2018-10-31 15:31:40 UTC

I never said it was

2018-10-31 15:34:09 UTC

They do a good job balancing the duality though. Seems like the power shifts every election cycle between what's expediently moral, and hard truths that need to be discussed in order to get desired outcomes in the long run

2018-10-31 15:34:47 UTC

The courts are more powerful than any other branch

2018-10-31 15:34:51 UTC

And not much gets done

2018-10-31 15:37:51 UTC

I don't think they are that powerful. Not unless you listen to the recent far left media portrayals. Ben Sasse from Nebraska does a good job summing up why it seems that way

2018-10-31 15:38:41 UTC

He spoke a bit during the kavanagh ford inquiry

2018-10-31 15:38:42 UTC

The courts can block anything they want

2018-10-31 15:38:51 UTC

Individual federal judges can block executive orders

2018-10-31 15:39:00 UTC

Whoever controls scotus controls everything

2018-10-31 15:41:07 UTC

And legislative laws can be vetoed

2018-10-31 15:41:18 UTC

It's all as designed. Nothing has changed

2018-10-31 15:42:40 UTC

Progress should be slow and arduous. The best way to keep people happy. Is no one should get 100% their way

2018-10-31 15:44:01 UTC

Fastest way to corruption and the rule of money

2018-10-31 15:44:28 UTC

Executive orders should be constrained though

2018-10-31 15:45:21 UTC

Corruption occurs in any hierarchy. And hierarchies are inevitable no matter how the cards are dealt

2018-10-31 15:52:35 UTC

Well, socialism is the purest form of democracy to an extent

2018-10-31 15:53:07 UTC

because the people collectively make the decisions, unlike in businesses today where workplace democracy isn't that much widespread or influential anyway

2018-10-31 16:22:10 UTC

Yeah, but the default human condition isn't to necessarily want to be educated and knowledgeable about how to effectively participate in a democracy. Some people just content being dumb. If anything that's a preferable form of existence. When I see ads telling people to go out and blindly vote, I always smh

2018-10-31 16:26:22 UTC

If you need to be told and guilted to go out and vote, I don't think you've spent enough time mulling over the information needed to make a sound decision.

2018-10-31 16:32:42 UTC

socialism is not the 'purest democracy'. referendums are 'pure democracy', socialism doesn't have to be involved. That said, pure democracies generally are fucking terrible just like socialism.

2018-10-31 16:40:25 UTC

Letting people on the higher end of the scale make all the choices leads back to the Nobility issue WW1 had.

2018-10-31 16:40:58 UTC

Just because you're smart doesn't mean you have the best interest of the people at hand.

2018-10-31 16:41:15 UTC

And when you're too much of an ideologue without skills you end up creating a nightmare for the people.

2018-10-31 16:41:53 UTC

From what I've seen when you've got the resources and intellect to do so, you just outsource and pack your bags for another domino which isn't falling yet.

2018-10-31 16:42:33 UTC

It's not as if there aren't alliances and coalitions to keep the moved resources intact after all.

2018-10-31 18:05:15 UTC

smart really does not have much impact on the "Ethics" or being a man of the people. Like Killary is smart.... and that's what enables her to get so wicked so many times with good ol' Bill. They are not dumb people, which is what makes them dangerous.

A lot of socialist leaders were very intelligent, this is how they used socialism as a tool to mass produce useful idiots which they would eventually also shoot down.

2018-10-31 18:10:25 UTC

it also naturally builds ego, which is cancer in the end. Anointed, narcissistic people who "DESERVE" to be at the top. Very few successful leaders in history have dictated themselves like that. Like Genghis Khan did not give a fuck about his background and culture, the guy just wanted to expand the empire.

2018-11-01 03:43:08 UTC

Sup pedes

2018-11-01 08:13:00 UTC

builds ego? lol

2018-11-01 08:39:54 UTC

and socialism was terrible? I disagree with that.

2018-11-01 16:34:58 UTC

What manner of base primate are you? Answer below

When has socialism ever worked? @Leiro ใƒฌใ‚คใƒญ

Errr, accomplished the end goal where it creates a utopia?

Socialism is evil, one reason being infringement of individual rights. I believe terrible suits the ideology quite well.

Capitalism is goat. Convince me otherwise.

2018-11-01 23:15:11 UTC


It for sure needs to be looked at and possibly adjusted, due to people immigrating illegally and having kids here. Damn loopholes every time.

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No changes were made.

2018-11-02 01:14:30 UTC

<@&363416030254465024> who can I speak to about partnerships?

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2018-11-02 06:14:43 UTC

and the Soviet Union

2018-11-02 06:16:14 UTC

under socialism your human rights would be respected all and well, under capitalism you are voluntarily getting exploited and your serving the interests of the bourgeois, dosent seem to be very righteous to me

Not sure if trolling or actually serious

2018-11-02 21:23:59 UTC

what trolling?

2018-11-02 21:24:11 UTC

how can one feel liberated to be a wage labourer?

@Leiro ใƒฌใ‚คใƒญ I dont have to accept the job and can find a job that pays well if im educated in the field. How is being forced to work without a choice - with no say in your pay better? Where do you live? @Leiro ใƒฌใ‚คใƒญ
Where is your communist utopia?
Ben Shapiro has really good points regarding capitalism/communism. Cba to regurgitate, you may want to check out some videos unless you're not open to differing views, which I assume isn't the case since you're here.

2018-11-02 21:49:40 UTC

I'm not a communist, you have to work if you are able to, if not society has no obligation to you, you wild actually get paid better under socialism imo, without the bourgeois extracting surplus value from the workers

2018-11-02 21:50:05 UTC

and please, Ben shapiro? their borderline educated about socialism at best,

2018-11-02 21:50:25 UTC

and yes, I'm open to other views, I used to be rightist who turned leftist lol

2018-11-02 21:50:41 UTC

the capitalist system would run itself dry due to its contradictions

They're most likely more educated than you, judging from your grammar. At least give it a watch in all seriousness.

2018-11-02 21:53:12 UTC

I didn't enable auto correct on my tablet, so I'm lazy to correct it

There would be no autocorrect without capitalism i bet.....

2018-11-02 21:53:50 UTC

I watched them, needless to say not a big fan on capitalism being "consensual sex" or socialism being "rape"

2018-11-02 21:54:07 UTC

lol, touchscreens and GPS were all developed by state fused endeavours

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2018-11-02 21:55:11 UTC

so no iPhone for you if it wasn't for state money

2018-11-02 21:55:45 UTC

and capitalism will run dry anyway

Oh really? And what government funded this? A communist one right?

2018-11-02 22:00:17 UTC

both the US and the Soviets poured money into the military to develop such endeavours

2018-11-02 22:00:47 UTC

and communism can only be achieved after socialism, there has never been a communist government anywhere, there has only existed socialist governments

Where is the Soviet union now?

2018-11-02 22:01:29 UTC

dissolved undemocratically

2018-11-02 22:02:12 UTC

you seem to have the common misconceptions about socialism and communism, spill out your questions, I will gladly answer that for you

Was just trying to rustle some jimmies. Shapiro usually gets you guys going

We can agree to disagree, maybe we can continue this later? Disagree about more stuff? At work rn

2018-11-02 22:04:10 UTC

not really, I'm not a commie, but Ben shapiro and Jordan Peterson are memed quite frequently

2018-11-02 22:04:18 UTC

but yea we can have this later in dms

2018-11-02 23:54:26 UTC

They are memed? In what way? In a way that degrades their point of views?

If socialism is the precursor to communism, why do you support it? @Leiro ใƒฌใ‚คใƒญ

think it creates a better society or an easier controlled one?

2018-11-03 00:29:32 UTC

better society

2018-11-03 00:29:43 UTC

it's not about control.

2018-11-03 00:30:07 UTC

capitalism will eventually run itself dry, it's inevitable that socialism will come

Did you read that on a blog or something? Post source

We've run dry before, and we didnt all turn into socialists... Looks like the dems have been pushing faaar left here lately though, many people think it'll work. History says no

Can we get this place poppin like it used to be?

By 'work' I mean this utopia most people like @Leiro ใƒฌใ‚คใƒญ seem to profess.

@Leiro ใƒฌใ‚คใƒญ Don't lie, are you canadian? You never did say where you were from friend..... Just guessing lol

2018-11-03 02:04:25 UTC

@๐”ฆ3-๐”„๐”ฏ๐” ๐”ฅ capitalism will run its dry due to its contradictions, the two of which being the TRPF and automation under capitalism.

2018-11-03 02:05:09 UTC

I'm not Canadian, socialism never claimed to be utopic, we are working towards this utopia, called "post-scarcity" in Marxian terms

What does a person have to do to get img perms here?

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2018-11-03 15:06:50 UTC

i think u have to be at a certain level

2018-11-03 15:06:59 UTC

or role idfk

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2018-11-03 17:19:44 UTC

Well I can't

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Ahh the good shit

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No changes were made.

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2018-11-06 13:34:19 UTC

I hope the red wave changes to a red ***scare***

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2018-11-06 14:19:03 UTC

c a n y o u D O N O T

2018-11-06 14:20:16 UTC

***D E S P A C I T O***

2018-11-06 15:04:32 UTC

how has nobody noticed the spam lol

2018-11-06 16:24:19 UTC

Blue wave....

2018-11-06 16:25:34 UTC

Republicans encompass center, slightly left of center and anything right of center. And if someone in any of those categories doesn't agree, they don't understand themselves deeply enough, and don't realize they likely fall left to far left, and are in a dwindling group that's eating itself.

2018-11-06 16:27:21 UTC

Trumps approval rating has only improved since the 2016 election. And tribalism has increased. So people are likely going to vote all red or blue. So id predict that people are basically voting trump again, regardless of what candidates have said or done, they will simply check the boxes of their tribal group, more so than we've ever experienced in history. Polls that are predicting a blue wave are repeating the same polling errors that occurred during 2016

2018-11-06 16:31:54 UTC

Fox News reports 60% negativity about trump and 40% positivity. And they are called a bias unreliable news source, when CNN, MSNBC and any other left leaning new source is +90% negativity. Anyone who's really paying attention to this stuff realizes after 2 years of this bullshit that it cannot be all doom and gloom. How can anyone swallow all that tripe and not be curious to seek out their own answers outside of the narrow minded media box

2018-11-06 16:39:29 UTC

The only difference between now and the 2016 election is that more people have had time to wake up and take the red pill. I've never heard of anyone taking the blue pill, or it is extremely rare or possibly they have other motives behind saying they have taken a blue pill. But that's just not how we progress through life. We only wake up and realize why conservative values are genuine and liberal ones are dangerous and fake.

2018-11-06 16:42:46 UTC

We transition from an infants to adulthood. We were all probably somewhat on board with liberal values at a much younger age. Then we come to understand we've been infantilized by the those values. And the best thing to do as an adult is stand up and challenge yourself and take some responsibility for yourself

2018-11-06 16:43:18 UTC

Don't be a victim, you willingly choose to be a victim. Nobody can victimize you but yourself

2018-11-06 16:46:28 UTC

Acting like an infant is useful. If you are an infant. Those privileges use to be removed after the first few years of life. Now, with state assistance, you can stay that way perpetually

2018-11-06 18:13:51 UTC

Yea I used to be a Democrat especially since my state is mega blue, but the last few years I've realized how bad they are and I've taken the Republican Conservative side.

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2018-11-06 22:07:39 UTC

is this a good discord or is this niggerlovers

2018-11-06 22:35:35 UTC

pls dont be a bunch of boomer republicans jew lovers

2018-11-07 00:56:24 UTC

Whos ready for the results for the midterms?

2018-11-07 01:22:53 UTC

Should be enlightening either way it goes

2018-11-07 01:24:08 UTC

If the dems gain the house it just means the media did their job of keeping people in hysteria over trump.

2018-11-07 01:24:45 UTC

Although it does take a lot of will power to consciously refuse their narrative if you are engrossed in it

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2018-11-07 01:32:04 UTC

Really hoping meme magic will prevail and we will have the majority in both

2018-11-07 01:40:44 UTC

Maybe, I don't think leftist understand memes though

I voted red. Thats all that matters. I can die in peace


2018-11-07 02:47:44 UTC

wait no, you gotta stay around for 2020

2018-11-07 02:51:28 UTC

the damn democrats got the house

2018-11-07 03:33:38 UTC

are you sure its early enough to be sure?

2018-11-07 03:37:37 UTC

tbh just at the moment we aren't doing bad with the definite info we have, with a 19 point lead, only got half of all the stuff in though

2018-11-07 03:38:30 UTC

won/lost isn't good though

2018-11-07 04:00:58 UTC

We're winnin

2018-11-07 04:03:35 UTC

yee yee

2018-11-07 04:04:53 UTC

Que pasa?

2018-11-07 04:05:20 UTC

i cant get into the main donald discord cuz i dont post on reddit

2018-11-07 04:05:22 UTC

so i came here

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So I'm in confusion

2018-11-07 04:05:42 UTC

about what

2018-11-07 04:05:57 UTC

Jesรบs this server is huge

2018-11-07 04:06:05 UTC

Nah I'm just here to look around for a bit

2018-11-07 04:06:13 UTC

yeah yet its kinda dead rihgt now

2018-11-07 04:06:15 UTC

despite being election night

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2018-11-07 04:06:22 UTC

Duly noted

2018-11-07 04:06:42 UTC

Anyhow, I should go. Hellos from Puerto Rico

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2018-11-07 04:06:48 UTC

bye bye

2018-11-07 12:56:00 UTC

Racism and sexism wins again. Gg democrats

2018-11-07 12:58:45 UTC

They voted in a bunch of ethnically diverse people and women, regardless of their abilities. They were judged only by their race or sex

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2018-11-09 07:38:12 UTC

whats up drama alert nation

2018-11-09 21:18:00 UTC



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