Message from @Cammeron - KY
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because the people collectively make the decisions, unlike in businesses today where workplace democracy isn't that much widespread or influential anyway
Yeah, but the default human condition isn't to necessarily want to be educated and knowledgeable about how to effectively participate in a democracy. Some people just content being dumb. If anything that's a preferable form of existence. When I see ads telling people to go out and blindly vote, I always smh
If you need to be told and guilted to go out and vote, I don't think you've spent enough time mulling over the information needed to make a sound decision.
socialism is not the 'purest democracy'. referendums are 'pure democracy', socialism doesn't have to be involved. That said, pure democracies generally are fucking terrible just like socialism.
Letting people on the higher end of the scale make all the choices leads back to the Nobility issue WW1 had.
Just because you're smart doesn't mean you have the best interest of the people at hand.
And when you're too much of an ideologue without skills you end up creating a nightmare for the people.
From what I've seen when you've got the resources and intellect to do so, you just outsource and pack your bags for another domino which isn't falling yet.
It's not as if there aren't alliances and coalitions to keep the moved resources intact after all.
smart really does not have much impact on the "Ethics" or being a man of the people. Like Killary is smart.... and that's what enables her to get so wicked so many times with good ol' Bill. They are not dumb people, which is what makes them dangerous.
A lot of socialist leaders were very intelligent, this is how they used socialism as a tool to mass produce useful idiots which they would eventually also shoot down.
it also naturally builds ego, which is cancer in the end. Anointed, narcissistic people who "DESERVE" to be at the top. Very few successful leaders in history have dictated themselves like that. Like Genghis Khan did not give a fuck about his background and culture, the guy just wanted to expand the empire.
Sup pedes
builds ego? lol
and socialism was terrible? I disagree with that.
What manner of base primate are you? Answer below
When has socialism ever worked? @Leiro レイロ
Errr, accomplished the end goal where it creates a utopia?
Socialism is evil, one reason being infringement of individual rights. I believe terrible suits the ideology quite well.
Capitalism is goat. Convince me otherwise.
It for sure needs to be looked at and possibly adjusted, due to people immigrating illegally and having kids here. Damn loopholes every time.
?jrcent
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<@&363416030254465024> who can I speak to about partnerships?
BETO O'KEEFED
and the Soviet Union
under socialism your human rights would be respected all and well, under capitalism you are voluntarily getting exploited and your serving the interests of the bourgeois, dosent seem to be very righteous to me
anyone here?
@.𝓽𝓱𝓮𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓪𝓭 meh
Riiiiiiight
Not sure if trolling or actually serious
what trolling?
how can one feel liberated to be a wage labourer?
@Leiro レイロ I dont have to accept the job and can find a job that pays well if im educated in the field. How is being forced to work without a choice - with no say in your pay better? Where do you live? @Leiro レイロ
Where is your communist utopia?
Ben Shapiro has really good points regarding capitalism/communism. Cba to regurgitate, you may want to check out some videos unless you're not open to differing views, which I assume isn't the case since you're here.
I'm not a communist, you have to work if you are able to, if not society has no obligation to you, you wild actually get paid better under socialism imo, without the bourgeois extracting surplus value from the workers
and please, Ben shapiro? their borderline educated about socialism at best,
and yes, I'm open to other views, I used to be rightist who turned leftist lol
the capitalist system would run itself dry due to its contradictions
They're most likely more educated than you, judging from your grammar. At least give it a watch in all seriousness.