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wow thats wrong
I'm probably making it sound worse than it is
how it works is, people vote for their political party then those parties win "seats", you need a certain amount of seats in order to get into power, if the amount of seats for left wing and right wing parties is about the same, one party can form a coalition with another party in order to get the majority, with the vote that happened a couple of years ago, labour (left wing) basically won the popular vote (if I'm remembering correctly) but it was very close with the tories (right wing), however in Northern Ireland, the DUP (very religious right wing party) managed to get just enough votes to let the tories win if they formed a coalition, and the DUP demanded £1 billion in order to form that coalition so the tories can remain in power, and of course they did pay it which is why May is still prime minister
sheww doesnt seem right..
That's politics for you...money talks
Anybody here have any idea why (particularly Americans) deny farm murders? I see it alot on social media.. someone posts something about South Africa and there is always one ass who says its fake.. all fake..conspiracy theories
Get a glock
@Rox I think it has to do with the SA guy's kept playing the genocide card and it has been disproven countless times. So any mention of farm murders and its seen as a white genocide conspiracy
oh. 😦 sad though
watchin a vid
Im in Michigan
yeah it was a stupid move associating the farm murder problem with genocide
*cough cough Lauren*
and now its on infowars.. so..
I still don't know why there is no online database of farm murders. Its so hard to provide facts to somebody.
A simple site listing the attack/murder and its police case number would be more than enough.
maybe link the case to articles covering it if possible
seeing is believing.
second link is a pdf report
that linkis an archive, maybe what you are looking for
thanks that pdf has some good info
as for statement "seeing is believing." if it implies gore, then not a good idea to share that. that is something better left discovered, than trying to force it on people, it inevitably desensitises people to that gore, and like so many just stop feeling disgusted by it accepting it as a norm... sadly violence is something that we are already desensitized to
@Sheamus yeah I was more thinking in the line of say a realtime update of a news feed linking social media and news articles
@Rox It's because the people who always spoke about farm murders are considered "alt-right". Whenever they spoke about it, the end goal was always to promote their beliefs, this obviously left a stain on the actual issue so now americans just reject it based on the agenda of the people who shared it in the first place instead of actually looking into the issue
take that 5 attacks in 24hrs a couple of day's ago. I want something that shows its actively happening and not just stats
@Rox It also doesn't help that there are South African liberals that deny it take place too.
@Nidalap Rorrim yeah not sure if anyone is doing that, but I am sure there must be something similar to that somewhere.
I'm really considering hard if i shouldn't make something like that myself. Funding is just a big issue
i'm having a big meeting the 20th i'll be able to say if i'm going to make it after it.
Well maybe reach out and see if anyone knows of something like that, if not, then start a group with voulenteers, and try get everything you can, and add to that whatever never reports come in, and update it. simple webpage with a counter, and overall stats, and if you can get info, create an archive with all relevant information
ja it doesnt have to be fancy, just a one stop place for all the relevant information. I like the volunteers suggestion
@Sheamus there are white SA liberals who say its all crime and all is fine
i'll keep you guy's updated. cant think straight atm still have that stupid migraine for two day's now
I think even Renaldo says its just normal crime?
Thanks guys and please do Nidalap
Talk to Ernst Roets if you do
I cant take this crap anymore
Oh because "white people", and threatening the for even filming it... joh
check this cop @Renaldo
thats why you need a good jewish lawyer lol
always worked for meee 😂
Ya but that was unfair.. and racist
id take it more as a police thing to be honest, they are shockingly corrupt and inept
This video needs exposure for sure
wanted a bribe
should be fired
@Rox I don't think Renaldo's stance is all is fine, just that all crime needs to be addressed not just farm murders
That would be cool...
go ahead with it and expose the double standard
Dark days here.. there is something seriously wrong
>we are ready to kill for land
>whole buncha people die
>wtf whitey is genociding us
>UN "intervention mission"
Man will that be hilarious
Not really...if it comes to that point SA will never recover. They burn buildings in protests what do you think will happen in a war?
a lot of us would die
we dont all have guns.. and to get out of every city you have to pass a township
I wont even mention numbers
Cities would be the easiest to defend, Apartheid geography ensures that.
suburbs are mixed these days
But the death isn't my point, this countries infrastructure would be beyond repair
isnt urban warfare the deadliest?
yes true but fixing it afterwards would create a lot of jobs..
@Rox Those in suburbs aren't going to be the ones fighting, trust me they'd be out by then
@Rox I've told you before this won't be white vs black..it's going to basically be those with western values vs those who reject the west
i think the black people with western values may not take part but they will stay home or leave.. they wont be fighting
damn Im on outskirts
Id imagine it would be worse up north and in the east part of the country
@Rox Those areas would be 100% lost...West of the fish river would be easiest to defend
I dont think it will be soon...
Darkseid is right, it really isnt going to be about skin color
the rhetoric and propaganda is against us
not western values
lol true, but do you think if you can see through it, others cant?
I wish theyd speak out on social media.. I see a few but they all said theyd leave if it got worse
They do speak up against it, that is the point. there are many who also dont bother hanging around the toxicity of social media like myself. Doesnt mean they dont speak up about it, or agree with it.
@Rox 99% are just trying to get by with their lives, majority of this country doesn't even bother with politics, asked an indian friend of mine what he thought of Malemas comments about indians and he didn't even know Malema made comments. Twitter really isn't the place you should be getting you info from, it's filled with unemployed youth that just regurgitate what Malema tells them, but that's not the general vibe of the populace
not sure about that... I agree with the social media stuff
But many feel disenfranchised
and we are the scapegoats
Why so unsure? DO you speak with others?
well our housekeeper who is a relatively sane middle aged woman has been promised land and a farm and cant wait
by an ANC dude
Yes we are the scapegoats for the politicians, wonder who will carry their weight and who who will carry the burden of blame for their failures if not us lol
All right, so that doesnt sound like someone who is westernized... Do you mix with any westernized persons of color?
the point is the masses are in shacks hungry no jobs no hope and now they want their land..
if it means whitey out the way.. so be it..
They day dream about having some land
@Rox There a 55 million south africans, roughly 8 million use twitter..now when you see those racist tweets...do you see 100 009 likes and retweets on em?
The most I've seen is 2000...a minority of a minority
Yes... many @Darkseid some are western and some that shocked me in the corporate world who were EFF.. undercover.. even one director of finance
Hopefully you are right...
To be honest I am not surprised, hard to be when you have BEE that gives jobs and positions based on color, and then on top of that you have comradery of family and friends that get higher priority...
@Rox The west is different...I'm talking about black twitter...place is just retarded, coloured twitter which exist I only found out a few months ago is just making jokes or some shit...Its literally just political twitter that has a doomsday idea😂
It's not like the financial manager affiliated with EFF got there by merit, not with that ideological mindset
@Sheamus Kids with phones,studying and internet access bitching 24/7
no I mean a CFO not accounts manager.. and he kept it quiet.. but we used to talk a lot and work on projects together and he told me
.. He was ex ANC
He was not CFO for EFF... he worked in the corporate world.. western values etc
I just think youd be wrong to assume support where there may be none or very little..
@Rox If he spoke like how black twitter speaks he didn't have western values...just saying
Most people dont want to be in a war or fight and would stay home and lock the door and not get involved
He didnt speak like black twitter.. He was very well educated and well spoken... He said he admired Julius.. Julius would finish the revolution and blah blah.. I was shocked because I assumed he would be ANC not EFF...
Values and ideas arent just something you have because you claim to have them, it is something you demonstrate in the way you think, and behave
The war will start white vs black over the land and from there who knows
@Rox That's literally black twitter...a bunch of educated black individuals who follow julius rhetoric because if shit hits the fan they have the means to leave
Ya his type would leave
@Rox The genuinely poor are voiceless and the rest of us are trying to get by
but you have seen the looting and unrest?
the farm invasions?
the increasing violence?
@Rox Again theres 55 million people in SA..You don't think if it was the majority we would've been fucked by now?
Even we are feeling the bad economy... imagine living on 1250 a month in a shack
and hearing whites stole the land and have the money
Its not 55 million... but the unrest riots and protests definately are more
A report came out 2 days ago about CT shows 256% increase
@Rox EFF cadres..inciting violence, which is my point, if it was the majority SA would be fucked because look how retarded EFF supporters are
and I believe EFF and ANC are the same.. they will join
Julius is the next president.. and if he is not we get David Mabuza who is as bad
@Rox This isn't the stone age, word spreads like a mother fucker in this day and age
You think rwanda couldnt happen here?
@Rox Rwanda was in the 90s...you think those americans are just going to sit around and do fokall if something must happen here..firstly you think south africans are going to just sit around and do fokall? ANC spoke about EWC and tribal leaders were the first to say "This ain't it"
and they are going ahead anyway
starting with whites
did you hear their responses to Trump?
Al wat ek weet, it takes one land grabber to go try his shit on the Zulu land..one then shit will hit the fan
I do infact think america would do nothing
@Cal We're not talking about america we're talking about the americans,
Politicians will dodge people won't
They have their own problems, I hardly see them jumping on planes to come down here
That being said, I expect the worst so I can be pleasantly surprised later
Oh they are pretty much dying to fight commies lol their mouths practically watering for it
kkk types would love it
and even normal americans would come
and right wingers around the world
KKK are as neutered as the boeremag and the AWB
yeah lots of them offering to send money, supplies, weapons and even offering to come here themselves to fight the commies
Cavalry will be a little late, but better late than never i guess
But yes, it would be interesting to a Spanish Civil War type scenario
alt right still has a lot of support in the USA
It was war between the fascist and Communist parties in Spain. The fashybois had support from around the world (materiel and other such goods) including Nazi Germany and Italy, they also had volunteers from countries like America. The Commies also had support from the Comintern. It was this conflict that prepared the Luftwaffe for air combat actually
I didnt know that ... very interesting
Its pretty interesting
No one is expropriating Mitchells Plain
Alright I'm back. I had to get my food so I'm gonna eat now. Lol @bloob16
whered you appear from lol
Zelda the cat lo
I want to cuddle the cat.
brb It'll take me a sec to watch them 'cause I need to download a few things 😉
Be patient with me 😛
Swear that Chlorine Gas leak wasn't me
I am not.
Cause those cat posts...a bit too excited innit
I just like Cats ^.^
But, no, I can't say that id ever identify as a furry.
I don't have anything against them though.
So I hope I didn't sound like a dick. Lol
Nah I do though...I have a personal crusade against furries, about to recruit some Muslims and make it the first Crusade/Jihad coalition
One day a furry will mess with the wrong Christian😂
That's quite the obese pussy.
Cats are dicks
Become Tranquil 😉
dogs are the best
they aren't called mans best friend for nothing
I like Dogs also 😛
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYLhFZvSE4s here's a very important dog video
I've been gassed O.O
my dog farted
"They will fuck you" wow... Dude would probably be shot in the face here if someone threatened someone with that.. @Watchmen
Yeah they have no respect for women in SA hence rape capital of the world
sho no end to the nonsense - check this video
Funnily enough I've never really talked to a rape victim or seen any rapes before
Fuck emo music i prefer gospel music
Best song ever