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I mean its their right to do so.
I mean, I can see what Sargon is going for with this Liberalist thing he has going on, but he needs to know that a lot can go wrong with it if it gets out of control.
I think another issue is the whole Kraut thing and what happened to 'Justice Democrats' is not too far behind us, so it is still fresh in people's minds.
Even the reddit anarchists recognize they need managers even though most dont adnit it
And well.. I dont think I want sargon at the helm of this.
everyone that isn't anarchist is partially collectivist
Either he'll be at the head of it, and it may or may not go well, or he'll find it more stressful than he originally thought and then hand the reins to someone else.
Arguably everyonr is part something and that changes often
Unlike gender..
i think the issue with collectivism on the left stems from the lack of seperation between ideas and action
Well, that's what family's are... collectives. Same thing with friends, and clubs, and coworkers, and gaming with your guild on MMOs...
Like how many would like the idea behind the new label and what bakes it different from libertarian
you can propose potentially bad solutions but not act upon them
which is obvious to any conservative
These Ideas have and never will be implamented because they will never work. They only appeal a small percentage of the population.
which ideas
indvidual rights above group rights.
More like not everyone will know how to handle individual freedom.
How many of us would rather be guided sheep. Stuck but content with doing one thing
No ambition or will to improve oneself.
if we all had 100% freedom we would be overwhelmed by biological motiviation
Iโm truly failing to see what is so hard to understand about a group of people making government their bitch rather than collectively being subservient to government
whether it be violence, drug use, stealing
Collectivism appeals to the people who are aware of their personal weaknesses and want the collective to compensate for them.
Hmm guess its a small govt vs big govt
Individualism is an ideology for people who want no responsibles and have no ambition in life.
I wish that made sense
I think we saw responsibility differently.
this is <#398973785426100234> btw
get out of my memespace you facists
But I could argue that an individual would do better with ambition if not chained by collective doctrine.
Well, it is beneficial for us to work together and compensate for each other's weaknesses, as it does make the whole better. The split comes when some want to *force* people to cover for other people's weaknesses.
Well its just punishment vs incentivising.
You are incentivised to compensate for anothers weakness in capitalism.
Yes, but you still have the choice, whereas you don't if you're being forced.
Collective doctrine gives people something to work for were individualism only brings nihilism for most people.
Yes I personally need the government to force me to not be suicidal this is true
this is a bit meta
Heres the thing then. Not everyone can handle being free.
Like showing the entire deck in HS as opposed to showing parts of it.
Overwhealmed by choice as they say.
Yeah, it can form a sense of purpose and cohesion. I mean, I don't want to start any kind of debate since I'm just using it as an example, but I am Christian, and that's made me far more content with my life and given me a purpose more than anything else beforehand.
Goverment has nothing to do with it people need a group identity for a sense of purpose.
group identity?
inb4 the hate. lol
Well you aint wrong there, but at the same time it results in mob mentality
@JadenFrostwolf why do you expect hate ๐ค
What if it simply makes the collective resistant to change in general.
Well, I'm used to the "lol your a Christian?!" kind of responses. lol
lmfao i'm over that
Like the leftists, blm, sjws and antifa. Are these not the results we feared should collectivism take root.
How do you prevent those first
a corporation is a collective
But yeah, it can result in mob mentality, which is why we do need individual freedoms, just not taken to an extreme.
@ping you know nationality, ethic, racial and or religious.
Well I mean there are benefits
The question now is how do you deal with well, unruly collectives while respecting their rights to assemble.
I may be getting this wrong, but isn't individualism taken to it's extreme anarchism?
yes it is.
Yeah
So basically, there's a balance to be struck.
But whos saying extremes are healthy?
Most of us undestand the need for a functional government.
I don't know, but it seems that the lefties are going further and further left every year. lol
Yes people need to have some rights like property rights but the goverment need to be able to use force.
I think I'm just rambling now, it's late, sorry. lol
Someone to enforce it. Someone that knows that its in,its best interest to enforce it.
Read Leviathan. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enUG038NQlk
Well not someone I gues
I'll add that to my like list and turn it on later.
Drinking water makes you a Nazi. Scientific fact. I hear it also turns frogs gay.
WHAT!?
*shit posting*
Damn boi ๐ฏ
You can tell a meme is dead when people get edgy tattoos of it
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is hati a shithole? https://youtu.be/Wze8rKYfbP8
you are just uncultured
>>>>> WAY instead of WAE
wtf
what did the clinton hati fund do for hati?
@Naveronasis u cut out brb food
Is this an attention grab or is this real? what do you think? https://youtu.be/sp-YEgqu3Tg
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